Currently, (April 2nd, 2023), I have my eye on 2 vans. One is a 2017 GMC Savana 2500, 6.0, 6 speed transmission, barn doors, G80 Locking Rear Differential, 53,100 miles, the household power outlet, 1 owner and the guy wants $30,000 or so for it. It's really clean (from the pictures, I haven't seen it yet in person) Also not sure how far he'll go down on price....
The other is a 2005 GMC Savana 3500, 6.0, 4 speed transmission, also barn doors, 132k miles, G80 Locking Rear Differential, unknown number of owners, and has wear and tear on the inside from being used as a work van. The guy has had it for about a year and a half. With this one, it's beat up on the inside, from wesr and tear from being used as a work vehicle, however even with a basic build, just using wood or whatever, would just cover all those scratches and dents up, preventing them from being seen by the eye.
Both these vehicles have the powerful 6.0 liter v8 gas motor, and the g80 locking rear differential, and cruise control, the 2017 one obviously has the newer (presumably better) 6 speed transmission. Both these vans have the ability to tow, and have the motor oil and trans oil cooling system. The 2017 van can take E85 gasoline, and appears to have Stabilitrak as well.
Now, my dilemma is I could take out an auto loan and get the 2017 van and have basically no problems and not have to clean up someone else's mess as opposed to that 2005 van which would need some cleaning up and some TLC. In addition, the 2005 van almost certainly has the chevy peeling paint job from that era, although from the pictures it appears to not be that bad looking from the outside.
Basically, the 2005 van costs less, but I could pay for it in cash and just be done with it. But it's older, more miles (132k) and more beat up than the 2017 van, so as most of us here do, we have more time than money, so if we were to go with the 2005 van we would just spend time cleaning it up, possibly chasing parts, etc. OTOH we would be saving money.
My thing is, I could just pay cash for the 2005 van and not be in debt and have to deal with the auto loans interest rate and all that nonsense. Whereas, with the 2017 van, if I were to get that one, it would be newer, cleaner, and more modern, but I would almost certainly take an auto loan out on it, and hence be in debt (for how long remains unseen, I would try to pay it off quickly) in these uncertain economic times. Not to mention, higher insurance rates cause of the loan on it and it being under 10 years old.
With the 2005 van since it is older does it have less electronics/computers (for maintenance purposes) than the 2017 van, does anybody know? That would be one advantage I could think of, for going with the older 2005 van.
Also, any differences between the 2500 and 3500 cargo vans? I would think since that both have the 6.0, one would probably get more, better gas mileage cause the 2017 one has the 6 speed transmission.
Reason being is I remember talking to someone who has a brand new 2020 Mercedes Sprinter 2500 van, diesel, def, etc, and they were telling me that when you press the accelerator pedal on that van, it's all electronic, meaning the computer tells the fuel "injection" system how much fuel to squirt into that diesel motor. Basically, it's all computerized as opposed to the older, carbureted vehicles. So, that be one thing to go with the 2005 van instead of the 2017 van.
The other is a 2005 GMC Savana 3500, 6.0, 4 speed transmission, also barn doors, 132k miles, G80 Locking Rear Differential, unknown number of owners, and has wear and tear on the inside from being used as a work van. The guy has had it for about a year and a half. With this one, it's beat up on the inside, from wesr and tear from being used as a work vehicle, however even with a basic build, just using wood or whatever, would just cover all those scratches and dents up, preventing them from being seen by the eye.
Both these vehicles have the powerful 6.0 liter v8 gas motor, and the g80 locking rear differential, and cruise control, the 2017 one obviously has the newer (presumably better) 6 speed transmission. Both these vans have the ability to tow, and have the motor oil and trans oil cooling system. The 2017 van can take E85 gasoline, and appears to have Stabilitrak as well.
Now, my dilemma is I could take out an auto loan and get the 2017 van and have basically no problems and not have to clean up someone else's mess as opposed to that 2005 van which would need some cleaning up and some TLC. In addition, the 2005 van almost certainly has the chevy peeling paint job from that era, although from the pictures it appears to not be that bad looking from the outside.
Basically, the 2005 van costs less, but I could pay for it in cash and just be done with it. But it's older, more miles (132k) and more beat up than the 2017 van, so as most of us here do, we have more time than money, so if we were to go with the 2005 van we would just spend time cleaning it up, possibly chasing parts, etc. OTOH we would be saving money.
My thing is, I could just pay cash for the 2005 van and not be in debt and have to deal with the auto loans interest rate and all that nonsense. Whereas, with the 2017 van, if I were to get that one, it would be newer, cleaner, and more modern, but I would almost certainly take an auto loan out on it, and hence be in debt (for how long remains unseen, I would try to pay it off quickly) in these uncertain economic times. Not to mention, higher insurance rates cause of the loan on it and it being under 10 years old.
With the 2005 van since it is older does it have less electronics/computers (for maintenance purposes) than the 2017 van, does anybody know? That would be one advantage I could think of, for going with the older 2005 van.
Also, any differences between the 2500 and 3500 cargo vans? I would think since that both have the 6.0, one would probably get more, better gas mileage cause the 2017 one has the 6 speed transmission.
Reason being is I remember talking to someone who has a brand new 2020 Mercedes Sprinter 2500 van, diesel, def, etc, and they were telling me that when you press the accelerator pedal on that van, it's all electronic, meaning the computer tells the fuel "injection" system how much fuel to squirt into that diesel motor. Basically, it's all computerized as opposed to the older, carbureted vehicles. So, that be one thing to go with the 2005 van instead of the 2017 van.
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