Buying Land

I couldn't open the link on the regs maybe because I use ad blockers. I wondered about water & septic. Here's a list of the states & outhouse laws. Outhouses if done right can be very clean & odar free.Here's a state by state map.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/outhouses-legality-by-state

Happy Camper said:

https://www.wnem.com/2024/07/08/dnr-auctioning-off-nearly-100-properties-next-month/

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Thanks! I've always done very well on land.

BobPeters61 said:

I paid about $3000 for an acre of open desert in Apache Co. where camping on one's land full time is allowed.

This is what I paid for 2 years ago. A compatible lot will cost more in reality now. My current hurdle is how to get a domicile when my land has a warranty deed registered with the county and an outline on the map, but no address.

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Camping full time on one’s land in an RV in Apache County is not allowed per county ordinances. Not sure who told you that or why but unfortunately such rumors do take hold in the nomadic community. But it is easy enough to double check as county ordinances are published on the internet at the county .gov websites. I just checked out your statement and it is not true. There are time restrictions as well as official camping permits involved.

I have been watching some of this guys vid's on youtube https://www.youtube.com/@FrugalOffGrid and he sells info on permits for Apache County, that I would probably buy if I was thinking about buying land there. He has some great idea's on water storage also.

eapj1 said:

I have been watching some of this guys vid's on youtube https://www.youtube.com/@FrugalOffGrid and he sells info on permits for Apache County, that I would probably buy if I was thinking about buying land there. He has some great idea's on water storage also.

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Or you can just do your homework and find the publicly available information for free.

Depends on your situation I suppose.

Apache County AZ has regulations regarding camping on your own private land. A camping permit is required to be applied for. There is no charge for the permit but there is definitely a time limit involved for how long and how often you can camp on your property. You cannot just pull in and stay as long as you want to.

Buying land is in my humble opinion almost always a good idea we bought our land/home 33 yrs ago for 149,000 and just turned down 1 million. We could move and live very happy someplace else, but this is home. We got a reverse mortgage a few years ago and don't need to move since we don't want to. The value here jumped very high a few years ago when the train stopped next to the ferry and it became very easy to commute into Seattle and Seattle is going nuts!
The first house we bought I was 17, the next house we bought I was 20. We have always made good profit from buying and selling our houses.
But I have also seen a few folks get burned really badly in some private deals There is one lot here in our neighborhood that the owner keeps "selling" and then rips the new owner off because there is no access to the lot and HE owns the only other lot that they would need to use to get equipment to the lot. There is also a creek that is protected for some critter or something so no building on it. He has done this to many times for it not to be on purpose. So I guess what I am saying is, be careful and check everything with someone who really knows the land use laws etc.

i've always done very well with real estate also.
You'd have to be an idiot to buy landlocked property. Here's some good info.
https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/landlocked-property

Here's one for those that want some safety, many acres, and a personal missile silo. I just kept thinking that bullfrog might have flashbacks though...

https://www.kansas.com/news/state/article293083434.html

I'd love to own it & would name it Dorothy as you always name the things you love!

Happy Camper said:

Here's one for those that want some safety, many acres, and a personal missile silo. I just kept thinking that bullfrog might have flashbacks though...

https://www.kansas.com/news/state/article293083434.html

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Fun fact, make sure you have a good door stop to hold the huge several ton doors open as a failure crushed and killed over 40 people once I believe. Where is OSHA when you need them! Everyone was looking down into the hole when they should have been looking up at the doors.

That is a really good price for a rocket silo. They usually cost a lot more than that.

And it has a runway! So you know they got B25s to take off in 497' off an aircraft carrier by Doolittle's Raiders.

bullfrog ! said:

Fun fact, make sure you have a good door stop to hold the huge several ton doors open as a failure crushed and killed over 40 people once I believe. Where is OSHA when you need them! Everyone was looking down into the hole when they should have been looking up at the doors.

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Facts check….I can’t find a record of that incident on the internet.

bullfrog ! said:

Fun fact, make sure you have a good door stop to hold the huge several ton doors open as a failure crushed and killed over 40 people once I believe. Where is OSHA when you need them! Everyone was looking down into the hole when they should have been looking up at the doors.

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Probably banned silos as mass killing devices. Mayby HD-15s for heavy door
Titan II's silo door is 43 feet (12.5 m) long, 64 feet (19.5 m) wide, and 5 feet (1.5 m) thick at the center. It was designed to withstand a shockwave of 300 psi (21 kg/cm2).May 10, 2019

I found this about a Titan 2 exploding in a silo. https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/titan-ii-missile-explosion-2543/

maki2 said:

Facts check….I can’t find a record of that incident on the internet.

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I guess my memory isn’t what it used to be but August was a bad month for construction workers and combat crew members. New York Times August 8th 1961, at an Atlas site outside Denver, 5 people were crushed to death and 8 injured by the 57 ton door. There were also 2 other deaths due to falls into the silo because of Atlas accidents. A near disaster a few times during their initial fueling as well.


August 9th 1965, Titan II 373-4 Searcy Arkansas was being repaired. Fortunately the warhead was removed but the missile was still in the hole and fueled causing the Combat Crew Commander to close the 740 ton door and air vents to extinguish the fire to prevent a massive explosion. 53 construction workers were suffocated and burned to death. For some reason they never repaired the scratch marks in the concrete where the men tried to claw their way out with their bare hands and more than likely caused crew members that had seen them to delay reporting a fuel leak at 374-7 they caused by dropping a socket afraid if they did they would be locked in the silo with a missile about to explode. So in 1980 we were to learn what that explosion was like but again life was lost. Lots of incidents were not made public as military and soldiers don’t share secrets but because civilians were involved the public became aware of these few. Combat Crew duty was one of the more dangerous duties even during Viet Nam, hard to believe it took a few more years for the government to decide to get rid of the out dated and dangerous liquid fueled missiles. After 1975 they stopped an intensive training program for Titan ll Combat Crew Members depending more on “on the job training” due to lack of funding. I and most of my friends got out of the program as it was just too dangerous and we were proven right in 1980. Many of us lost body parts later on due to unusually high cancer rates in my opinion due to exposure but military didn’t agree! Lol!!!

Happy Camper said:

Here's one for those that want some safety, many acres, and a personal missile silo. I just kept thinking that bullfrog might have flashbacks though...

https://www.kansas.com/news/state/article293083434.html

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Ground and ground water, is probably contaminated. Military facilities did not observe proper material handling procedures. Hawaii, and Okinawa, have contaminated areas. In Hawaii the base housing for families was contaminated.

I have moved several political items into a new thread in the political subforum.

Please stay on the topic of buying land, in this thread, which is 'Buying Land'.

Thanks, and please continue.