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1 too many climbers hanging around, eh Mouldy?<img src="/images/boards/smilies/sneaky.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"><img src="/images/boards/smilies/rofl.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle">
 
<P><b>You photographers and artists out here, consider making your art into something useful.&nbsp; I can't sell my fine art originals for what they are worth in this economy but I sure can sell greeting cards and notecards.&nbsp; Packaging is very important. No, I don't make more than a dollar or so on the finished product but I can sell a lot of them, and they are not hard to put together on the road. All you need is Office Depot or WalMart and a craft store. Cheaper my way than having a printer do them.&nbsp; Diane</b></P>
 
Les H said:
Mouldy said:
Yeah, I have A LOT of options. There are a ton of climbers that come to Bishop from all over the world. I could sew climbing gear and sell it! (too bad I don't know how to sew well <img src="/images/boards/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"> )
<br>Mouldy, methinks that's not a great idea... Just sayin. I can, however vouch for the returnable cans and bottles in some states, though I think $100/day is optimistic, as there is actually competition for them. Best bet is to memorize the garbage/ recycling routes for the week in a more populated area. Be prepared to be awake and moving before 3 am, as our trashman comes at 4:30. Also, be advised, that some refuse companies claim that returnables are their property once they are placed on the curb. (legally, I believe the curb is public property, as it is part of the street, but some have been threatened with arrest Nonetheless.) Another commodity that can be looked for is recyclable metals, ie. Copper, aluminum, brass, stainless steel, etc. Tin and steel, too but they are much heavier and bulkier. Metal yards will pay by the pound, sometimes with a 100 lb minimum. Be prepared to show a drivers liscense, as theft of building materials is a big problem, and most crooks don't want a revisit or paper trail of their theft. I still do recycling, though not as much as I used to . Now it's mostly remodeling leftovers, as I'm a builder and contractor. ( psst- the average cell phone has $1.40 worth of gold in it, and a computer has about $12-14 , but you have to extract it...)<br>Les
<br><br>having worked in solid waste/recycling for 16+ years...&nbsp; be very carefull about taking things out of a container.. depending on the area materials are indeed claimed.. in alot of places, they are claimed by the municipality, and there are stiff fines and in some cases jail time for scavenging out of a container set out for collection.. I've helped to write some of them &lt;grin&gt;<br><br>No one will bug ya if your taking things from bushes or along the sides of the road that are just trash.. but the revenue that comes from taking recyclables to the sorting facility get factored into the municipalities budget.. and you start cutting into that they get cranky &lt;grin&gt;<br><br><br>
 
I am a campground host in CA where there is a charge for beverage cans and bottles. I collect cans and plastic bottles from the trash dumpsters at my small campgrounds. For the whole summer I usually only make about $200. I don't think there is as much money in it as you may think.<br>
 
I was talking about going to populated places. Like in Detroit they have the Grand Prix races on Bell Island a friend of mine goes there for the week and picks up $50- $100 a day in bottles.He fills his van up everyday. And cashes the cans and bottles in after dark (Bell Island closes at 10pm). And yes there are other people that do this for a living. My kid brother when he was a teenager made $20-$25 a day. On a bicycle pulling a wagon. in about 2 hrs. And it's hard work.&nbsp;
 
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I will say that the workamper subscription is worth the money..It pays for itself. <br>You can also check out <A href="http://www.coolworks.com" target=_blank>www.coolworks.com</A>&nbsp;a lot of resorts, campgrounds, national parks, and ranches do their hiring through coolworks and it's free. <br>There is also WWOOFing-Willing Workers on Organic Farms<br><br>If you find yourself in a city and you need a conventional job, but do not have an address, it might be worth it to put a post out on craigslist in the personals looking for friends. Write a post that states you need someone to let you use their address for job applications and a P.O. Box application or whatever..This is where your barting skills come in handy..And don't think that would be too wierd, people post some crazy ads on craigslist.<br><br>I worked and collected unemployment in CA with out of state plates and never had a problem.<br><br><br><br><br>
 
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