Urban stealth "camping" questions & fears.
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Blue said:
You will know how bad your situation is when I show beating on your door with one hand and a bottle of Cabo in the other hand. I will probably sound just like your dad too!!!!!
eek IT'S DRUNKENSTEIN!
this is totally off topic but...
already had that situation with one of my sister's boyfriends... she was too drunk to drive so I had to pick her up from the party, she wanted me to get her boyfriend who was out in a cow field raging about how mad he was she wanted to leave... I chased him around for a half hour, watched him fall over a bobwire fence into a big cow patty and decided I had enough grabbed my sis and left... he showed up at our house at 3:00 AM, pounding on the door as hard as he could, still drunk off his ass, no shirt, no shoes, one sock, covered in cow crap, wheat, and dirt, bleedinig from many bobwire sticks, holding a near empty vodka bottle and demanding his daughter (who was sleeping over with my neice) be returned to him... ugg... drunkensteins...
this is totally off topic but...
already had that situation with one of my sister's boyfriends... she was too drunk to drive so I had to pick her up from the party, she wanted me to get her boyfriend who was out in a cow field raging about how mad he was she wanted to leave... I chased him around for a half hour, watched him fall over a bobwire fence into a big cow patty and decided I had enough grabbed my sis and left... he showed up at our house at 3:00 AM, pounding on the door as hard as he could, still drunk off his ass, no shirt, no shoes, one sock, covered in cow crap, wheat, and dirt, bleedinig from many bobwire sticks, holding a near empty vodka bottle and demanding his daughter (who was sleeping over with my neice) be returned to him... ugg... drunkensteins...
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GAD....I HATE drama!!!! ^^^
that's when I wouldda called LEO
that's when I wouldda called LEO
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Blue said:
Lol. Sorry if that sounded wrong. Not at all. Some drink responsibly and in moderation. Many times people/friends enjoy a drink without getting out of their minds. But I do understand because to many people don't treat it as such. Some peoples prejudices from previous experience make them think everyone takes it to that extreme. I meant it as you're hiding out "stealthing" it and I show up sort of like surprise surprise and not being cheap I bring the refreshments.
Not everyone who has a drink with friends is a drunk. That stuff is about $43.00 a bottle and I paid for it.
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Blue said:
Lol. Sorry if I made that sound wrong. It may give the wrong impression as I'm far too old to get "drunk". I did mean it jokingly as I would sort of bust in while you are stealthing it and share a drink with a fellow rv/vaner. Getting drunk is for the kids so us oldsters just enjoy a drink with friends. When your young its cheap and you drink a lot, when you're older it's a little and good quality.
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Lol. I post one thing, it doesn't get posted, I rewrite and here it is.
friends dont let friends post drunk lol JK
na I got it... just sayin I've had some interesting expirences with alcohol...
and no patrick I didnt call LEO, my sister called a sober friend of his and had her come pick them up... while I "stalled" the raging screaming pounding drunkenstein.
na I got it... just sayin I've had some interesting expirences with alcohol...
and no patrick I didnt call LEO, my sister called a sober friend of his and had her come pick them up... while I "stalled" the raging screaming pounding drunkenstein.
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Donut shops;
I have friends on several different forces, (LEO's) and the current thinking is the only thing you buy from a doughnut shop is coffee. (Well officer, your eyes are glazed. Have you been eating doughnuts?)
It seems to be a bragging point as to how long they have been without one. Kind of like AA meetings. (Hi, I am officer Do~Right. It has been two years and eight and a half days since I had any pastry!)
As long as you seem to be clean and honest, they will be reasonable about where you are parked. They do not want any trouble or paperwork.
I have friends on several different forces, (LEO's) and the current thinking is the only thing you buy from a doughnut shop is coffee. (Well officer, your eyes are glazed. Have you been eating doughnuts?)
It seems to be a bragging point as to how long they have been without one. Kind of like AA meetings. (Hi, I am officer Do~Right. It has been two years and eight and a half days since I had any pastry!)
As long as you seem to be clean and honest, they will be reasonable about where you are parked. They do not want any trouble or paperwork.
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Most of the time LE just want to run you for any warrants or APB's. 9 out of 10 they'll just tell you to move on if your clean and clear... That being said. If they smell alcohol on you or your acting suspicious ( very vague so be calm and honest ), they have PC to search your vehicle and give you a ride to the nearest breathalyzer, etc.....
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Actually other than it can make for a bad day sometimes......other than Identifying yourself and lic. and registration......be quite.
When you are requested to get out , lock the door......a warrant is now required by law....most people make there own problems by answering questions......be polite ....claim your 5th.....and ask if an attorney is required before going further.
I have no problem with checks.....but where Im going and where I've been and how long I plan on being around are just evidence waiting to happen.......
of course dont be a butthead about it........if he has a good reason to ask let him state it...or if he has a reason you will be wearing cuffs , so closing your mouth is a good thing anyway!!!!!
When you are requested to get out , lock the door......a warrant is now required by law....most people make there own problems by answering questions......be polite ....claim your 5th.....and ask if an attorney is required before going further.
I have no problem with checks.....but where Im going and where I've been and how long I plan on being around are just evidence waiting to happen.......
of course dont be a butthead about it........if he has a good reason to ask let him state it...or if he has a reason you will be wearing cuffs , so closing your mouth is a good thing anyway!!!!!
I think when cops ask "where are you going and where have you been", it's just their way of saying hello. It's just so routine for them to bark out these questions, that it really doesn't mean much. And what they're fishing for is mainly how you'd react in terms of your demeanor. Like when a cop pulls you over for a broken license plate light and asks ".....do you you have any guns, hand grenades, nuclear bomb, etc." while smiling real friendly like, he's just testing your reaction. Also, answering "where you're going and where have you been", is a way for them to check back on what you just told them immediately or later to see if you're lying. Very intrusive indeed.
I absolutely agree that based on the US Constitution, you could immediately take the 5th and not say a word.... but now, you'd be on this cop's radar all the time after this stop, if you're planning on staying in his town. Sleeping in your van is going to be illegal in almost any town you go to, so they've already got you with this (which can be a ticket or even an impound). While getting a violent knock on your van at 3am every night (because now the cop's targeting you) won't be fun at all, even if you never answer them. That's guaranteed to ruin your next day, as who can go back to sleep after all of that adrenaline?
I say, just have your story in order and answer his fishing questions. And even consider telling him that you're just down on your luck and are living in your van until things improve. And let him run all the checks he wants. I'm not sure about letting him search though, because they may ransack the hell out of your van.
I absolutely agree that based on the US Constitution, you could immediately take the 5th and not say a word.... but now, you'd be on this cop's radar all the time after this stop, if you're planning on staying in his town. Sleeping in your van is going to be illegal in almost any town you go to, so they've already got you with this (which can be a ticket or even an impound). While getting a violent knock on your van at 3am every night (because now the cop's targeting you) won't be fun at all, even if you never answer them. That's guaranteed to ruin your next day, as who can go back to sleep after all of that adrenaline?
I say, just have your story in order and answer his fishing questions. And even consider telling him that you're just down on your luck and are living in your van until things improve. And let him run all the checks he wants. I'm not sure about letting him search though, because they may ransack the hell out of your van.
That reminds me, I still gotta follow up with an attorney on that whole "just dont respond, dont answer the door, if your legally parked and you dont answer there is absolutely nothing the cop can do" defense.
that totally blew me away, I never even thought of just doing that, I feel intimidated by cops (and they want you to feel that way) and when they ask a question I feel "I better answer this guy or else I could be in a world of hurt" but maybe thats not the best way to handle it, SPD did say "I might assume the reason your not answering me is because your having a medical emergency and break into your car to save you" that is the ONLY thing that makes me think maybe the strategy wouldent work... but then again, that cop would seriously have to worry about trampling all over your civil rights because you were wearing headphones and didnt hear him ask in your insulated legally parked van.
that totally blew me away, I never even thought of just doing that, I feel intimidated by cops (and they want you to feel that way) and when they ask a question I feel "I better answer this guy or else I could be in a world of hurt" but maybe thats not the best way to handle it, SPD did say "I might assume the reason your not answering me is because your having a medical emergency and break into your car to save you" that is the ONLY thing that makes me think maybe the strategy wouldent work... but then again, that cop would seriously have to worry about trampling all over your civil rights because you were wearing headphones and didnt hear him ask in your insulated legally parked van.
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David said:
I use these two options almost exclusively.
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Patrick said:
Patrick, that is exactly the look I go for. The magnetic signs are a great addition!! Look like your supposed to be there and doing "work". My van is that way, but an idea I am planning with a truck and utility box converted into a stealth urban rig was shunned somewhat on here by some members ( thanks for the challenge doubters... ), but if you look like your working and doing business, I doubt you'll be found out unless you get careless.
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Climb thru back window.. Just have to keep the cheeseburgers to a minimum
