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Lostinspace

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I was asked to expand on tire date codes I brought up in the 'Haggling' discussion. So here goes.

TIRES – DATE CODES

Generally accepted rules of thumb for tires are that regardless of low mileage or low tread wear, tires should be replaced every five to seven years maximum (generally accepted practice is seven years). Exposure to sunlight, ozone, and ultra- violet radiation causes gradual loss of the plasticizers that keep the tires flexible. Sidewall cracking can often be seen but may not always be apparent.

So, for safety’s sake and to avoid sudden catastrophic failure, replacement should be done on an age priority basis. This does not mean that obvious tread wear, sidewall damage, or any other physical problem with the tires should be ignored if they still have “x” years to go before they are “too old.”

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) “Tire Identification and Record Keeping Regulation,” revisedJuly 2, 2000, specifies a new 4-digit datecode that must appear on all tires sold in the
United States. The complete DOT (Department of Transportation) code is in the following format:
DOT MMM SS TTT DDDD where MMM is a three-digit manufacturer ID; SS is a tire size two-digitcode; TTT is an optional tire type code; and DDDD is the date of manufacturer code where the first two digits indicate the week of manufacturer and the second two digits are the year, i.e.: 2802 would indicate that the tire was manufactured the 28th week of 2002.

Note: tires manufactured before July 2, 2000, had a three-digit date code where the first two digits are the week of manufacturer and the last digit is the year. Tires manufactured in the 1990s had a triangle following the three-digit code while tires manufactured in the 1980s did not, i.e.: 282 with a triangle would indicate that the tire was manufactured the 28th week of 1992, while if there is not a triangle following the three-digits, it was manufactured in the 28th week of 1982. Which is all academic because if your tire is that old its already fallen apart probably. The new four-digit code eliminates any ambiguity in the year of manufacture and allows continuation of the system through the 21st century.

It is suggested that when buying new tires you request having the same date of manufacture and that that date should be reasonable close to the date of purchase. Otherwise, you will be buying tires that will need to be replaced sooner than necessary.

The heavier the vehicle is the more important the above becomes. For instance if you have a large RV, the tires can up to or more than 100 pounds of pressure. A blowout can be fatal. But it is also important with a van. I used to have a 1989 E-150 conversion van. My wife was driving along at 60 or so on a rural road and had a tread separation. In her case it was a bad tire and not age. Anyway she got it stopped and pulled over but it was dicey for a moment or two. Thank God it was a four lane highway with zero traffic.

Also if in your shopping for a vehicle you run across out of date tires you can use that in your negotiating.

Hope this helps and keeps you safe.

Happy Vanning, Wade
 
I never knew they had date codes, thx for the interesting info!
 
Good job, Lost in Space.&nbsp; I had a vague notion something of that sort was on the tires, but had never gotten around to learning about it.&nbsp; You explained it well.<br /><br />Gracias, J
 
Good to find out if all tires match for dates. Wonder if the tire store gives you three new tires and one old tire. Now can tell.&nbsp;<br /><br />
 
<br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>Apparently, this doesn't apply to all tires. The tires on my 4Runner don't have any kind of numbers like these on them. Neither do a set of Goodyear Eagle GA 16s I'm currently trying to sell.&nbsp;<br /><br /></strong></span>
 
Forgot to mention. Not all tires have the date code on both sides of the tire. You may have to look on the other side of the tire.

As an aside Michelin claims their tires are good to ten years, but the tire needs to be inspected every year which means dismounting the tire for an internal inspection.

Wade
 
I've looked at several RV's over the past few months where the owner was quick to point out what low mileage the tires had and how great they looked. On closer investigation it turned out that they were 10-12 year old tires.

One gentleman in particular got pretty upset when I offered him a lower price and pointed out that I would have to buy 6 new tires. He was of the mind that as long as they had good tread, they were good tires.

I've seen the end results of an RV rolling over because of a blowout. You don't want to risk it.

Good tires are cheap insurance... and if you're a full timer, that's "house insurance!"
 
psytechguy said:
He was of the mind that as long as they had good tread, they were good tires.
<br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>That was me, up till about a year or so ago. Now I know better, even though&nbsp;</strong></span><br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>I still don't see any numbers on any of my tires that I can make any sense of.&nbsp;<br /><br /></strong></span>
 
Lostinspace is exactly correct.&nbsp; The date codes ARE there....You must look for them!&nbsp; The older three number codes are very ambiguous...the first two numbers being the week (out of 52) that the tire was made..the last being "a year that ended in.."&nbsp; for example: 308 would be 30th week of a year ending in 8....so...in 2012 that tire could be 4 years old..or 14 years old, or conceivably 24 years old !&nbsp; Tires stored under covers of darkness, shielded from UV rays, but rolled around once in awhile to keep the rubber "Live" can and have lasted for many, many, years. Visual inspection is key.. Look for little square "crosschecking" lines, chalky surface, low inflation, tires that are "Hard" to the touch.&nbsp; Push on the sidewall rubber of the tires on your new car with your thumb...you should feel some "give"...push on a very old tire...will not "give' at all, feels hard like a bowling ball! Old tire! Most tires today are made of synthetic rubber compounds. They last longer than "real rubber". Remember the big wide rubber bands that were a staple in office supplies?&nbsp; You could select two rubber bands from the same box....put one on a shelf and forget about it for one year...the other could be placed in a drawer, taken out weekly, stretched and played with for a few minutes...then put back in the darkness of the drawer for another week.....at the end of the year, the one in the drawer would be as good as the day it was made...the rubber still "Live".&nbsp; The one on the shelf...exposed to light, dormant for a year, would be hard as wood, or nearly so, crumble on contact or snap into two pieces when stretched. And, yeah, flesh and bone is the same way! That's why exercise is so important! Cheers! Locolarry <img src="/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" />
 
Date code locations vary per manufacturer... the norm used to be just above the bead (near the rim) on one side of the tire...usually in a little flat indent preceded by a round spot.&nbsp; This was as a result of the date code "Tin" being replaced weekly in the cast iron mold.&nbsp; The spots were actually molded rubber around screw heads in the mold used to hold the date code tins in place.. If one of the tins pulled off when the previous tire was removed from the mold...then the tire would be "Branded" with a red hot tool called a "Brander" with the proper production date code preceded by the letters "DOT" Hence you would look for something like this : * DOT 308 *&nbsp; here the asteric represents a small round indistinctive mark.
 
Thanks for the information on determining the age of a tire. I almost totally forgot about this aspect of tires. I'm going to add this page about determining a tires age to my "bookmarks." It's amazing how you can forget so much about one aspect of tires. How old are these tires?
 
<br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>I guess I'm just too old to grasp this. It gives me a headache trying to figure it out.</strong></span><br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>On my 4Runner, the tires say "Dot R882". So what the heck does THAT mean?&nbsp;</strong></span><br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>They were made in the 88th month of 2002?&nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/crazy.gif" /><br /><br />Or maybe the 8th month of 1982? OMGosh!!!!&nbsp;<br />In which case, I'm sportin' 30-year-old tires!!!!&nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/eek.gif" /><br /><br /></strong></span>
 
<br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>Still too much information, &amp; too confusing. All I can really figure out by that, is that they're radials, which I already knew.&nbsp;</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>I guess I'll&nbsp;just&nbsp;continue&nbsp;to do what I've always done.... judge 'em by the way they LOOK.&nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/frown.gif" /><br /><br /></strong></span>
 
SirJoey-&nbsp; I think Steve is messin' with you.&nbsp; That WiKi site is far from clarifying!&nbsp; <br /><br />Now I am confused.... maybe, more like overwhelmed!&nbsp; Wow that is a bunch of information crammed onto one page.<br /><br />I need a nap!
 
Look at the group of letters and numbers that come after the "DOT R882"

The last 4 numbers are your date code.
 
Yeah, I thought the big picture chart on the wiki page explaining what each thing on the tire is might help you out. Guess not.<br /><br />
 
psytechguy said:
Look at the group of letters and numbers that come after the "DOT R882" The last 4 numbers are your date code.
<br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>There aren't any. Just the words about the load rating, etc.</strong></span><br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>I'll post pics tomorrow, if I get a chance.<br /><br /></strong></span>
 
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