Speaking of dating and relationships

[Corinne]

Speaking of dating and relationships:<br><br>It has been my own experience, and also the "honest" experience of most of the women I've ever known over these past 58 years, that men don't want to be your friend unless sex is involved.&nbsp; The minute they find out you are not interested in sex as a priority, but just a genuine friendship,( heaven forbid that should be so bad), it's goodbye. &nbsp; That is WHY most women today prefer to go solo and enjoy their Lives just being themselves for a refreshing change. <br><br>Said with honesty, not sarcasm, and not men bashing - so please don't read too much in to it but just the honest truth of the matter..<br><br><br><br><br>

 

[Corinne]

Username: Seraphim<br>Message: <br>Corinne.&nbsp; What evidence do you offer to prove that 'most women prefer to go solo'?<br><br>Just curious.&nbsp; I have a lot of women friends with whom I never wanted to have sex.&nbsp; DW was my first last, my last, and the only one in between.&nbsp; I've never had one of my friends mention they preferred going solo.&nbsp; They all seem intent on maintaining relationships.&nbsp; Granted, not all of them with guys...<br><hr>Seraphim, I couldn't find your post here, so I copied it from the email that I received saying that it came from this forum.<br><br>What evidence do you offer to prove that you haven't wanted to have sex with the women friends that you have known over the years? ( Pretty silly question isn't it?)&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">&nbsp; A lot of women, men as well, aren't really going to come out and say that they'd rather be solo because they are afraid they'll be judged by others, so they keep it to themselves.&nbsp; And really, a lot of people, as you say, are intent on maintaining relationships with others because they don't know how to maintain a relationship with themselves yet, so they depend on others. &nbsp; I really don't care what others think, not said with sarcasm either, so I tell the truth about it.&nbsp; Others are not living my Life, "I am."&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">&nbsp; So their blind judgement is no concern of mine.<br><br>If you will read my comment once more, you'll see that it says "it has been 'my' own experience with 'most' of the women I've known over the past 58 years.&nbsp; I only speak from my own experiences.&nbsp; Also, I'm not gay just for the record. Not that there's anything wrong with that.&nbsp; <br><br> Seinfeld moment!&nbsp; lol..&nbsp; "Not that there's anything wrong with that."<br><br><br>Happy Travels.<br>&nbsp; <br>

 

[cyndi]

Speaking of dating and relationships:<br><br>It has been my own experience, and also the "honest" experience of most of the women I've ever known over these past 58 years,<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> that men don't want to be your friend unless sex is involved.&nbsp; The minute they find out you are not interested in sex as a priority, but just a genuine friendship,( heaven forbid that should be so bad), it's goodbye. </span>&nbsp; That is WHY most women today prefer to go solo and enjoy their Lives just being themselves for a refreshing change.<br>

<div><br></div><div>I'm going to respectfully disagree. I'm feeling a little bad for you. I think you're missing out on some great friendships/platonic&nbsp;relationships.</div><div><br></div><div>Also,&nbsp;categorizing, stereotyping&nbsp;and generalities, with regards to humans, are never a good thing in my experience.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size: small; font-style: italic;">"<span class="huge" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">The only place opportunity cannot be found is in a closed-minded person.</span>&nbsp;"</span></div><div><span style="font-size: small; font-style: italic;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial; ">Make no mistake. I am not&nbsp;proselytizing&nbsp;the need for a physical relationship with the opposite sex. I, for one, am a way better friend then I am a partner.&nbsp;</span></div>

 

[Corinne]

Thanks for your reply cyndi.&nbsp; I think you took what I shared down the wrong road, respectfully.&nbsp; I have quite a few platonic relationships.&nbsp; I Love people and enjoy being around them and sharing, always have.&nbsp; Of course, you don't know me so you wouldn't know that.&nbsp; Absolutely no offense intended towards you either.&nbsp; <br><br>Once again, I'm only sharing my own experiences, I'm not stereotyping or generalizing, just sharing what I've experienced.&nbsp; I am a happy and peaceful person, but you wouldn't know that because you don't know me, once again.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle">&nbsp; Just like I don't know you.&nbsp; So, try not to read too much in to what I'm sharing.<br><br>I am a very open minded person, that is why I am exploring and meeting people of all walks of Life instead of staying put in one place behind closed walls.&nbsp; I don't see how that can be classified as having a closed mind.&nbsp; But then again, you don't know me, so you wouldn't know that but would only assume.&nbsp; I've learned never to assume.&nbsp; Not wise.<br><br>You are most certainly entitled to your own opinion as well as your own reality. Take care and happy traveling to you always.&nbsp; <br><br>Corinne.<br>

 

[cyndi]

I am REALLY happy to know you're not limiting yourself, Corrine. Please accept my apology for misreading your statement.

 

[Corinne]

No problem cyndi.&nbsp; I've spent most of my Life removing limits.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle">&nbsp; I apologize for not being clear.&nbsp; I thought I was.<br><br>My main point is that there is a certain kind of freedom, and liberation, that comes with not having to depend on something outside of yourself for your own happiness and well being.&nbsp; Speaking for myself only because I can not speak for others and wouldn't even attempt to.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"><br><br>Take care and 'nighty night.'&nbsp; <br><br><br>

 

[yesican]

<p style="margin: 0px;">I tend to agree with Cornine.&nbsp; I am finding that platonic friendships are far more satsifying.&nbsp; If something developes from the platonic friendship, great!&nbsp; But its the friendship that deepens, grows, and endears one to another.&nbsp; And, it seems that&nbsp;the chains of a relationship&nbsp;have expectations&nbsp; that often cause wedges between two people.&nbsp; Until we (I) learn to not develope expectations, going it alone works for me and from what other women have said, many (not necessarily all)&nbsp;also fall into this category.&nbsp; So, Corinine is right on with her statements.</p><p style="margin: 0px;">Rae</p>

 

[Seraphim]

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Seraphim, I couldn't find your post here, so I copied it from the email that I received saying that it came from this forum.<br><br><br>

</p><p style="margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin: 0px;">After re-reading your post I quickly deleted mine, because&nbsp;I realized&nbsp; I had read too much into yours. </p><p style="margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin: 0px;">I can't disagree with things that happen 'in your experience', which is different from mine.</p><p style="margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin: 0px;">It's a pity, IMO, that you have that opinion of all men. There are men like tha,. and men who aren't. Stereotyping&nbsp;is never 100% accurate.&nbsp; I can wish your experiences had been different.</p><p style="margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>

 

[Corinne]

Good morning Seraphim.&nbsp;&nbsp; "No," I do not have that opinion of ALL men.&nbsp; It has been my experience with 'most' men having worked with men all of my Life. <br><br>As I said before in another post, I've worked with men more than I have worked with women in my Lifetime.&nbsp; I had a real blast working with men and learned a great deal from them and they treated me like family.&nbsp; Please try to stop taking what I write out of context.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">&nbsp; It would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp; I mean no offense to you, or harm, by saying that to you either.<br><br>I never said that 'all' men are like that.&nbsp; I said 'most...' - having worked with men my whole adult life back stage as a stage hand.&nbsp; I've worked with men in banks, and out in the fields setting cabinets - carpenters, etc.&nbsp; Their main goal is to 'bed' a woman, period.&nbsp; That isn't generalizing, that's sharing what I've been told by the men I've met!&nbsp; I know because they've told me!&nbsp; I know because I have a brother. They would even invite me to go to the stripper clubs with them after work!&nbsp; Of course I declined.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">&nbsp; Having no interest in that area.&nbsp; But I felt privileged, never the less, to receive the invitation because it let me know that they were comfortable working with me and treated me like one of the guys.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0"><br><br>I can say honestly that I have 'never' met a man, in all of my travels, who didn't have sex at the top of his priority list, "never."&nbsp; That isn't a 'bash', that is a fact.&nbsp; It would be a lot better if it was number 3 or 4 on the list.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">&nbsp; Not saying they're not out there, I'm saying I've never met one!&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp;I think you are assuming that I dislike all men, when I'm only sharing most of the experiences I've had with men over my Lifetime.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm sharing "Objectively."&nbsp; Meaning, I don't share to degrade anyone in any way shape or form.<br><br>Take care!&nbsp; <br>

 

[Corinne]

Your personal perspective was well said yesican.&nbsp; ♥<br>

 

[twokniveskatie]

Just a couple thoughts here.....<div><br></div><div>It is easy, when engaged in conversation with a cross-section of people with diverse belief systems and life experiences, to get sidetracked. I would just like to throw out a reminder that there is no one right way to live. Everyone is welcome to share their different experiences here. Keep in mind that some words can carry much weight and it is important to qualify them to keep the proper tone and perspective.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Words like "truth" are one of those words. We may have widely differing truths. There are no "right truths" except in our own hearts. "please don't read too much into it but just the honest truth of the matter" could be easily misconstrued.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>When someone shares a personal experience, I do not believe they should have to provide evidence to back it up. The statement "I have a lot of women friends with whom I never wanted to have sex" is a personal experience, and needs no defense.&nbsp;Very different from, say, &nbsp;an individual reporting the experiences of "most women". There it does raise questions of "what women? How many? is your circle of friends and acquaintances &nbsp;broad enough to attach the qualifier of "most" ? &nbsp; It is not meant to question your honesty or your experience, but to clarify your information. Just wanted to point out a different point of view on that statement.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

 

[sl1966]

That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth.<div><br><div><br><div><br></div></div></div>

 

[Corinne]

Sorry guys, this isn't my thread, I don't know why my name was randomly chosen as the author for it.&nbsp; That's the truth of the matter.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0"><br>

 

[Wild_E]

Recently I have found that I have really no interest in most women, keep getting hit on by women and they do not take kindly to being turned down at all!<div><br></div><div>There are a few women that I might be interested in, but they do not seem to exist down in southern Ontario.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>In the past I .. rread, I have had platonic relationships, some yes I wanted more and some were platonic and no more or even thought of being anymore than&nbsp;platonic.&nbsp;</div>

 

[sl1966]

Sorry guys, this isn't my thread, I don't know why my name was randomly chosen as the author for it.&nbsp; That's the truth of the matter.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0"><br>

<div><br><div>Because your reply in the original thread diverted away from the topic there, as well as subsequent replies to the diversion. It was explained in said original thread by the moderator.</div></div><div><br></div>

 

[sl1966]

Recently I have found that I have really no interest in most women, keep getting hit on by women and they do not take kindly to being turned down at all!

<div><br></div><div>The day this happens to me is the day I die. Gramps, god rest his soul, was still flirting up until he passed away at 104 years of age. I hope to be so lucky.</div><div><br></div>

 

[yesican]

<p style="margin: 0px;">I enjoy reading threads like this because I'm always hoping there is someone who can enlighten me and turn my negative views on my past experiences into positive ones.&nbsp; Viewing experiences of others helps me to understand the limited knowledge gained from my own experiences.&nbsp; Even if I don't necessarily agree with your version of "truth", I want to understand what lead you to believe that way so I can make my own judgement of what is "truth".</p><p style="margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin: 0px;">Rae</p>

 

[Corinne]

Oh okay, my apologies.&nbsp; I thought the topic was dating in "Doomsday dating."<br><br>My mistake.&nbsp; I honestly thought we were discussing relationships between men and women....<br>

 

[Corinne]

<span id="post_message_1273412299">I enjoy reading threads like this because I'm always hoping there is someone who can enlighten me and turn my negative views on my past experiences into positive ones.&nbsp; Viewing experiences of others helps me to understand the limited knowledge gained from my own experiences.&nbsp; Even if I don't necessarily agree with your version of "truth", I want to understand what lead you to believe that way so I can make my own judgement of what is "truth".<br><hr>Hi yesican.&nbsp; I never said my truth was 'thee' truth.&nbsp; I always try to say "speaking for myself" in all of my comments.&nbsp; I think some people don't read that part and end up trying to redirect what I am actually trying to say and take it way out of context.&nbsp; We each have our own truth.&nbsp; Truth is as unique as a butterfly's wings.&nbsp; No two patterns will ever be the same. <br><br>I don't know who you are addressing here because you haven't mentioned any names, but I grew up with all carpenters, all men. So, they discussed dating a lot, and women naturally.&nbsp; So, I can only speak for myself.&nbsp; I never said my personal truth was absolute.&nbsp; But it is absolute for 'me.'&nbsp; We all share our experiences hoping someone may get something out of it that will work for them.&nbsp; Even if it happens to be, "I don't like the decision they made there, I'll go another route."&nbsp; It works both ways.&nbsp; What has worked for me may not work for you, and vice versa.&nbsp; It's what ever works for 'you.'<br><br>I can only share what has worked for me according to how I've been raised and what I have personally experienced so far in Life.&nbsp; I'm still learning.&nbsp; And by the way, I never expect anyone to agree with 'my' version of truth because they are not me.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">&nbsp; I thought that went without saying...&nbsp; I'm just sharing, that's all.&nbsp; I'm not giving advice. <br><br>The very best to you in your personal quest...&nbsp; Healthier relationships begin by having a healthier relationship with yourself first, actually.&nbsp; It's all attitude.<br></span>

 

[yesican]

<p style="margin: 0px;">This is a thread about dating and relationships.&nbsp; I just enjoy viewing other's responses, including yours Cornine.&nbsp; I'm right with ya in your views.&nbsp; I learn much from what others say; it broadens my view and helps me to understand.&nbsp; I hope from understanding, I can have healthier relationships.</p><p style="margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin: 0px;">Rae</p>