Social media

[CatCaretaker]

Has anyone else had an issue with a message coming up on Facebook that there's been "suspicious activity" on your account, and requests you upload a photo of yourself for ID purposes? Then apparently they can shut the account down. 

I uploaded a photo despite misgivings about it. Haven't heard back from them, and can't log in. Am I being paranoid I wonder. I did previously have an account, which I had secondary sign-in for (in order to log in, after putting in my log-in, it would send a verification code to my phone, which I then would have to put in). When my phone abruptly, unexpectedly died, I couldn't get into the email I had nor Facebook. So I started another account. Now this.

What other social media do you like and feel safe/comfortable using? I've about had it with Facebook. I'm wondering if it would be better to get off social media altogether

 

[Netter]

Hi, I have been getting emails like that for facebook, apple and paypal. I don't even open them and delete them right away for safety.

 

[urbanhermit70]

Facebook has been banning certain people from their web site and YES this is one of the message. Facebook has robot running their site. These robot look for sign your account look "suspicious " spam, fake names, nude picture ,racist comment, bully comment etc



"suspicious activity" on your account, and requests you upload a photo of yourself for ID purposes? Then apparently they can shut the account down.

 

[Netter]

How would facebook know that is you or not you if you upload a picture? How would they know the person signing on is that person in the picture uploaded?

 

[geogentry]

I got one.  Had a facebook account a couple years ago and decided I should probably have one again. I signed up, and logged out.  Later that day when I tried to log onto the account I got the same message you got asking me to upload a picture to verify my identity.  I considered that a very strange message since the account did not have any activity and there were no pictures for them to cross reference.  But if they are building a data base of names attached to faces then it makes sense.  Shrug.  Guess I wont have a facebook account.  They dont need to have a picture to go at the top of a file that records everything I do and say.

I think they are collecting the faces to cross reference against all accounts so that no matter what name you use they will know who is actually using the account.

 

[tx2sturgis]

Technically you are only supposed to have one facebook account, according to what I read about it.

I'm not on facebook so that could be wrong for all I know.

 

[John61CT]

For those that didn't get the memo, artificial intelligence systems doing face recognition on a feed of millions of photos per day is a very common thing nowadays.

Facebook is a leader in the technology, and internally tags you in photos being uploaded by other users even if no human user does.

TLA agencies do so from public surveillance video in the street, both public and private places, very intensively in airports other travel chokepoints.

Same with license plate scanners, cross-referenced with phone location data, the government databases and google/facebook/apple/microsoft etc feeds / databases are not kept separate anymore, but routinely merged both by marketeers/political campaigns, and of course the surveillance apparat, our tax dollars at work.

A.I. means all this is very cheap, no humans needed for the collection and cross-referencing, until something flags you as a "person of interest", at which point the last X years of your activities IRL and online have been stored and can be reviewed by humans.

I am sure my posting this text here raises some flags against records tied to my IRL identity in multiple systems.

 

[Weight]

yes. now we have you. stay where you are until we call.

 

[DLTooley]

A.I. means all this is very cheap, no humans needed for the collection and cross-referencing, until something flags you as a "person of interest", at which point the last X years of your activities IRL and online have been stored and can be reviewed by humans.

I am sure my posting this text here raises some flags against records tied to my IRL identity in multiple systems.

Yep, thanks.  Face recognition is less than perfect with large populations, but a cross referenced Facebook database will do much to improve the search accuracy.  How accurate is a good question.  Same goes with satellite resolution.  I'd not be surprised if they could read a license plate from space.

 

[rvpopeye]

They've been able to read license plates from satellites for a long time now.

 

[lenny flank]

For those that didn't get the memo, artificial intelligence systems doing face recognition on a feed of millions of photos per day is a very common thing nowadays.

Back in my younger political activist days I got arrested about a dozen times or so at various places ranging from the White House to the UN Building to the Pentagon to Wall Street to the Liberty Bell. Each time, I made sure I had no ID with me, which gave the arresting officer a choice--he could either keep me there until he could figure out who I was, or he could write me a "John Doe" citation and kick me out the door. Not surprisingly, they gave me a John Doe every time. So although I was photo'd and fingerprinted, they had no real name to go with them. (And years later when I got a look at my FBI file, I discovered that the Federales apparently had never made the connections either.)

Nowadays, alas, that can no longer be done, since they will just run facial recognition on the DMV database and ID you within the hour.

Takes all the fun right out of it. 

 

[Mizzi]

It's not only facebook and the DMV that have everyone's details. We also have race recognition cameras in banks, stores and traffic cameras placed on the streets to catch speeding drivers. Then you have immigration, border security systems, passports and global face recognition systems. There is no such thing as being able to live under the radar because we have a multitude of systems in place to find you. right down to your social security number and bank accounts, cards and taxes.

 

[John61CT]

And now they're happy to lock the protesters up 15 states coordinated by ALEC, pushing for criminalizing protesting, creating laws to hold everyone in the area liable for the property damaged by a few bad apples.

Journalists along with them, pushing for long sentences.

 

[RVTravel]

I would never respond to a pop up from facebook.

 

[ben2go]

I'm happy I stopped using FB 2+ years ago. Reading about how the government and private organizations track people makes me want to walk into the wilderness and disappear. Even a 100+ miles into the wilderness the government will still track people with technology from the air or outer space. I don't feel like I can get a private moment while sitting on my toilet at home. :dodgy:

 

[sreesekelley]

I caught a bad case of crabbyitus today when the grocery store demanded I let them scan my drivers license in order to purchase an adult product. I left the full cart sitting there and walked out and called corporate and professed my displeasure. Damned grocery store has no business whatsoever knowing if I'm an organ donor or what insurance company I use. Companies are collecting data and selling to the highest bidder everywhere.

STOP! you must show us your papers! Really made me crabby. I'm white haired and wrinkled as a pickle, I shouldn't have to even show a drivers license for someone to know I'm over 21. Pffft.

 

[John61CT]

And the biggest problem is there is no explicit right to privacy in the US Constitution.

The now very old Supreme Court interpretation of

historical Common Law and of the Founders' intentions

creating that "right", is that it only exists where a "reasonable expectation" of privacy already exists.

Well in this world where our personhood is largely manifested out in the world of communications and electronic brain extensions

privacy has been violated so much it's become a joke, to the point that most people do **not** expect it anymore, thus

ipso facto we are participating in the process of eliminating that right

 

[sreesekelley]

My state argues the 10th amendment gives the states 'rights' to control DMV data whereas the Feds position is interstate commerce clause controls it and the US Supreme Court ducked the issue when it last came before them. Then i discovered who the major shareholder of this company is and they will never scan my DL for his database. A few states have or are in the process of enacting laws to protect DMV data but national news media fights the issue on First Amendment grounds. Until the US Supreme court decides it is a crap shoot where your personal information ends up. No matter to me, drive to another grocery store one mile up the road, no hassles and actually saved money on the exact same items. I have a new place to shop.