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RVLady just released a Kindle book on Amazon: "The Single Woman's Guide to Becoming a Full-Time RVer: Help for women considering the RV life! Plus, an RV Buying Checklist! (RV Lady's Single Woman Guide Books Book 1)" 

I have just begun reading it but she states that the "minimum monthly amount you'll need [to be a full-time RVer] is $1000."  Now, Bob has interviewed countless people who are doing well on far less. 

Thoughts?
 
I think she lost a lot of credibility with that statement, and I probably would quit reading.
 
I have no idea who RVLady is but with that minimum income, she's obviously not one of us.... :D 

People write all kinds of things about every subject...doesn't mean that because some one wrote it that it should be taken as the gospel truth.

The only problem I see with misinformation of any kind is that it will tend to discourage others from exploring what will work for them.
 
Glad to see my thoughts echoed here. Thankfully I only requested a sample of the book. There are some other statements already that I don't agree with plus far too many grammatical and spelling errors which always drive me crazy!
 
If it wasn't for this forum and everyones input, I would loose hope! Older couple here struggling to keep it together. Thanks to this forum,we have hope. We have a plan. We feel like it WILL be ok. Thank you for verifying what is possible. We will be full timers in the next 2 years, maybe earlier. Thank you! :heart:
 
it's different for everyone,a retired vegetarian hanging out on blm land,heck a couple hundred a month on basic living
a traveler staying in rv parks and eating out every meal,the sky's the limit
 
When working/staying at campgrounds I have met many fulltime RVers. Some have very expensive ideas of what to live in and lifestyle choices . That doesn't mean everybody needs to follow their lead.
I know one that spends a grand a month on just wine ! And travels in a 45' rolling palace .
She would tell you that NOBODY can make it fulltiming without a quarter mil a year income minimum!!!!!!!
OH YEAH ! It's true. AND she has all the correct answers to everything else you might ask......

It takes all kinds , just like everywhere else.

I think you will find a lot of folks right here that believe very differently.
I would live like a king on just her wine budget and can make do with a quarter of it!
 
Really? You guys live on less than a grand a month? Wow. I was making my target $1200. I guess it depends on the food you eat and how much you drive. Still, color me impressed.
 
I was budgeting $1,500/month for myself, but I'm also working part-time from the road, so it's pretty easily accomplishable.

$300 Obamacare (it's no longer affordable health care, so I'm just calling it Obamacare)
$200 cell phone and unlimited internet connection
$100 car insurance
$250 Fuel (this will be variable)
$250 Food (this is a guess)
$50 misc (dump tanks, propane refills)
$350 savings for emergency fund / new truck fund

If you don't have to pay for health insurance (which I'm seriously considering cancelling and just paying the tax penalty), that can save a bundle.  And if you don't need as much internet connectivity as me, that can drop significantly.  And if you're traveling less than I am, you'll save on fuel.  And if you're not putting quite as much away into an emergency fund, that can help too.

Could you live on less than $1,000 per month?  Certainly!  For me, this is where things seem comfortable, at least for now.
 
So many variables that it is impossible to say what the costs are. Does the person already own the vehicle, How old is the vehicle. Will the vehicle need major repairs or replacement in the future. What is the cost of living in their stomping grounds, (gasoline can be a dollar a gallon higher or more in places). I am retired and 62. I don't get a break on medical costs for another 3 years. My medical policy is over $500 a month without counting deductibles that I will need to pay. What is the climate like where they are, (cold, hot, humid), What is their cost to keep comfortable. What is their tolerance to boredom. Can you go somewhere and just vegetate? Can your body tolerate cheaper foods? Can you get free food from food banks?

If you are comfortable assuming a lot of risk, you can get by a lot cheaper than someone who wishes to prepare a bit for emergencies.
 
Of course it's variable. Same way as if you live in a S&B. Many people would never consider living in a studio apartment or driving a clunker back and forth to work. I just think it's misinformation to state unequivocally that $1000 is the minimum one needs as a full-time RVer. If, as in this case, the person talking is living in a Class A and works and therefore has (most likely) more disposable income, then for HER, $1000 would be a base month. But if one wishes or needs to keep their costs down, it is completely possible to live a comfortable life on half that. Randy Vining has done it for 40 years. If you throw all the qualifications in there (no debt, RV/Van paid for, less costly insurance option, rarely eating out, not driving far, few if any RV park fees, don't act like you're on a vacation), it can be done for way less.
 
It is more expensive to live if you have limited funds. late fees, returned checks, high interest on any type of credit you use etc. When you have money in the bank to buy vehicles cash, you can live quite nicely on less each month. I think Randy said in a video his expenses exceed his income, but because he has money in the bank it will be a while before he panics.
 
$12,000 a year can be generated from about $400,000 and last pretty much forever.

It is not a bad starting point.
 
DannyB1954 said:
It is more expensive to live if you have limited funds. late fees, returned checks, high interest on any type of credit you use etc. When you have money in the bank to buy vehicles cash, you can live quite nicely on less each month. I think Randy said in a video his expenses exceed his income, but because he has money in the bank it will be a while before he panics.

Yes, Randy said his expenses exceed his income but keep in mind that he's been doing this 40 years so he doesn't have a pension nor does he receive much in SS.  So even though his expenses exceed his income, he's still living for about $500-600/mo I believe he said.
 
Procrustes was the son of Poseidon (Greek Mythology) and he had a bed that he invited travelers to use. He fitted all takers to the bed using his hammer or stretching them to fit. No one ever fit the bed exactly. A problem like this requires a Procrustean solution. That is, using some undesirable method of tailoring the data to fit a solution. So here I go (laughing at myself).

Using a sort of Procrustean solution, we might look at all the variables that makes each traveler different, monetize those differences, then over lay the outcomes to decide if $1,000 a month is the right figure or not.

In Randy's case, I believe he said that he lives on about $500 a month. Also, he mentioned that he has VA health care. And, we know he's very experienced. Health care, perhaps that's worth $300 a month and his experience (and social network) is worth perhaps $200 a month. In actual dollars, the same outcome that Randy has might cost me $1,000 to replicate.

This analysis is static (predictable). Life, over time, becomes dynamic (unpredictable). Change is constant - dynamic situations reshuffle the deck. The reshuffle might be the health of yourself or a loved one. Rampant inflation as Randy points out. A mechanical issue... You should have some extra income, cash, or other resource on top of the minimum amount (whatever that is) to adapt to change.

A grand ($1k per month) might be okay in a static environment. If you don't need health care and have excellent experience, then $500 might be enough. But life is Dynamic... I'd need extra...
 
I view "needed" as much different than "desired", but then, I'm "old school". Several years back, we were told we would need at least $3,000 a month to full-time. I have looked at a lot of budgets and blogs and having always lived under our means, never great means, I just shake my head at their budgets. Years ago, we had such a limited income that I had to read the electric meter everyday in order to see if we would run the lights and TV in the evening, and I have always maintained a budget.

If one knows how to maintain a budget, a skill well worth learning, one should be able to do this, IF the person really wants to. I know a lot of people throw barriers in the road just to avoid admitting they really don't want to or are just not able to move forward with a plan.

It is myth that cheap foods aren't healthy, and I believe there is a thread, probably many, that will explain eating healthy on the cheap.

I never think someone should make a claim that applies to everyone or to a specific group. Many will prove this woman wrong.
 
My brother lived in Lake Havasu. The summer of 2008 I rode my BMW out to see him. It was so hot! Crossing the desert, I was running about a 110 mph. I stopped somewhere near Parker to get a drink, put the kickstand down on the bike, it went through the asphalt. My bike was laying over in the parking lot, I was exhausted, but got it back up on two wheels. Scratched my luggage bag. You can't imagine how hot it gets out there, and it doesn't cool off much at night.

I caught up with my brother and found that he wasn't feeling well. He said had been diagnosed with Valley Fever, was on medication and that it wasn't a problem. I didn't think much of it. A year and a half later, I'm a work, a police officer knocks on my front door. My wife answers and is informed that my brother is dying. She calls me at work, I jump in my car and race to Havasu.

The problem isn't Valley Fever, he has lung cancer. He's out of money and doesn't want to burden anyone. Through a government program, he was receiving cancer treatment in Kingman. His friends had been bringing him food - they called the police. He was behind on his rent and utilities. I caught that up and took him to the cancer center in Kingman. The doctor had a policy of not telling cancer patients they were going to die unless they asked. My brother didn't ask. So, I pulled the doctor into another room and asked how long? He said maybe two months. I explained his living condition and the doctor agreed to admit him into the Kingman hospital.

He was down to his last $7 - hospital put it in their safe. I began working on trying to get him into a nursing facility while the hospital stabilized him. He had no clothes that fit (Walmart is across the street) and couldn't afford a walker. I went on a shopping spree... He died in the hospital a week later. I had his body cremated at the facility behind the hospital. In all, I spent thousands of dollars.

If you are going to live on a tiny budget. Have a little something to back you up just in case. If not that, at least have a plan.

Budgets control expenses. If you can budget for an Expense of $500 that's great (I can't see it). Your revenue needs to be more. Save a little for the unexpected. A good budget includes a saving plan.
 
Back in the day, I was a kid living in lower middle class (read as poverty) America. My brother, older than me, had come home to rent a room from our Dad. He was charging him $20 a week. I was about twelve, my brother much older landed a job as a tow truck driver.

It was a late Friday afternoon, my brother got paid, and when dad asked him for the rent. He gave dad the twenty bucks. As dad left the room, my brother looked over at me and said, "What are you looking at? Tonight I'm gonna be eating steak and you're going to be eating hamburger."

He was right, and I'm still eating Hamburger. Add greasy rice and beans. I love a good budget!
 
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