pets and stealth

[Imladris]

Do any of you have experience with these twp in combination? I have two dogs that will bark at any outside noise and if I intend to have a job, I don't want them to get reported and taken to the pound.

 

[dragonflyinthesky]

<P><b>I have used the bark shock collars called (safepet or something like that, in a green lettered box) You can get them at walmart etc. Ebay too. No, Its not cruel, they have a cause and effect and learn quickly. Better than being noticed and taken to the pound.&nbsp; </b></P>

 

[vonu]

I'm not sure how a dog in a vehicle could be considered a stray, and taken to a pound, especially if the vehicle is locked. &nbsp;Make sure there is ventilation and shade on a hot day, and sue them for dognapping if they do so.

 

[twokniveskatie]

in many cities and states, it is illegal to leave an animal in a vehicle unattended. they can and will break a window of a locked vehicle to remove the animal, and you can be fined, or worse. it has nothing to do with being a stray.<br><br>of course, the biggest concern is the animals safety, so if you are going to work, there are some ways to do it that do not endanger the pets. work where it is cool, or work at night ( i know several people who have done this) and then sleep in the shade somewhere for the day.<div><br></div><div>i have a friend who works animal control and often responds to calls like these. he say he usually waits a short time while observing the animal before trying the door, or then breaking the window. they have a laser-type thing that measures the heat of the vehicle from outside. he all too often finds dead dogs. the animals are often not returned to the owners, even if they seem unharmed by the incident.</div><div><br></div><div>i have left Mutt in the vehicle, plenty of times, but am infinitely careful on when and why and how. i carry ID that will guide someone to the van if i am incapacitated. i don't give a sh!t about broken windows or fines, but am terrified of something happening to him. i have a very low heat tolerance, and don't want to subject him to anything that would make him uncomfortable....he's always gonna feel the heat way more than me. i am ever reminded that he doesn't get a choice in much of his life and circumstances, so it is up to me to make sure he is okay.</div><div><br></div><div>i use fans and leave the vehicle running with the air on when i have to leave him. i do most of my shopping and errands at night. and moswt of all, i just avoid anyplace dogs aren't allowed.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>i think there may already be threads on the forum that have suggestions on how other people go about it......</div>

 

[sl1966]

Maybe you can find a pet sitter to watch them during the day?&nbsp;

 

[twokniveskatie]

as to the original question (sorry!) Mutt is not a barker, so i have never had to break him of it. i've known people who had success with the collars, which is highly preferable to having to give up an animal who is a problem barker....or see an animal go to a shelter.....

 

[vonu]

in many cities and states, it is illegal to leave an animal in a vehicle unattended. they can and will break a window of a locked vehicle to remove the animal, and you can be fined, or worse. it has nothing to do with being a stray.<br><br>of course, the biggest concern is the animals safety, so if you are going to work, there are some ways to do it that do not endanger the pets. work where it is cool, or work at night ( i know several people who have done this) and then sleep in the shade somewhere for the day.<div><br></div><div>i have a friend who works animal control and often responds to calls like these. he say he usually waits a short time while observing the animal before trying the door, or then breaking the window. they have a laser-type thing that measures the heat of the vehicle from outside. he all too often finds dead dogs. the animals are often not returned to the owners, even if they seem unharmed by the incident.</div><div><br></div><div>i have left Mutt in the vehicle, plenty of times, but am infinitely careful on when and why and how. i carry ID that will guide someone to the van if i am incapacitated. i don't give a sh!t about broken windows or fines, but am terrified of something happening to him. i have a very low heat tolerance, and don't want to subject him to anything that would make him uncomfortable....he's always gonna feel the heat way more than me. i am ever reminded that he doesn't get a choice in much of his life and circumstances, so it is up to me to make sure he is okay.</div><div><br></div><div>i use fans and leave the vehicle running with the air on when i have to leave him. i do most of my shopping and errands at night. and moswt of all, i just avoid anyplace dogs aren't allowed.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>i think there may already be threads on the forum that have suggestions on how other people go about it......</div>

<div><br></div><div>That would probably be a good place not to find a job if one wanted to have a dog.</div>

 

[Guest]

<font face="Arial">If I can't have my cats with me while I work, and heat or extreme cold is an issue, I come right out and ask people if my Persians can stay in the office, or in someone's house, while I'm working outside. <br>If the person hesitates or seems on the fence, I offer to do the job for a little less money to cover the 'inconvenience'.<br><br>If they say no - too bad for that job. I move on. Not worth it.<br><br>I show proof of vaccinations, rabies &amp; monthly flea preventative. <br>The cats are small, quiet, calm, very clean, very well behaved, <i>extremely friendly </i>and they nevernever scratch or jump up on furniture, tables, counters.</font> <font face="Arial">They're perfectly happy to just lay on the floor and people-watch (or nap).</font><br><font face="Arial">Most people take one look at them and agree instantly. <br>Even ppl who don't care for cats, end up being members of the MeeRa &amp; Chokalit Kitty Fan Club by the end of the day.<br><br>If you need a safe for your pet for more than a day or two while you work, you can always find older people who are lonely and will adore the company of a well behaved, clean pet. Post on craigslist, ask at local animal shelters, local feed stores, local shops. <br>Anyone in town who loves animals, will know of someone who just lost a pet and needs company, someone who loves pets but can't have one, or an older person who loves pets but can't care for one full time.<br><br>**If you find an older person to help you out and babysit your pet(s), please at least offer to pay them or return the favor by doing some chores for them. Thanks**<br><br><img src="http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy28/swflawda68/Co-pilot and Navigator/31409MA.png"><br></font><br>

 

[Night_Sailor]

You can train a dog not to bark.&nbsp; When he barks, blast him with an air horn.&nbsp; It works.<br>

 

[vonu]

You can train a dog not to bark.&nbsp; When he barks, blast him with an air horn.&nbsp; It works.<br>

<div><br></div><div>I would think that a air horn would be more of a danger than a dog's bark &nbsp;A deaf dog (from the air horn) might not be much of a security asset.</div>

 

[Night_Sailor]

Air Horns are great training devices.&nbsp; A dog will stop whatever it is doing.&nbsp; you give the command loudly.&nbsp; If it does not respond.&nbsp; A short blast.&nbsp; You can moderate how loud it is by the trigger.&nbsp; After a few times, you will be just lightly chirping the horn.&nbsp; There is not possibility of making the dog deaf unless you are a lunatic.<br><br>I have used Air Horns to train other peoples dogs when I'm dog sitting.&nbsp; I get praise when they return to their owners--much better behaved.<br><br>

 

[Night_Sailor]

I'd like to add one thing.&nbsp; I leave my dogs in the car for short periods.&nbsp; My brother had two dogs on an orange grove in Southern California.&nbsp; The migrant workers would throw rocks at them.&nbsp; They would also rap on windows when they were in a parked car, just to rile them up.&nbsp; One benefit of this is the dogs barked furiously whenever anyone approached the car but us.&nbsp; We could leave the windows open enough to let plenty of air it, and a spill proof water bowl, and they were good for hours in those dry temp.&nbsp; We would leave one back door open and they made a dog house out of the back seat when parked at home.<br><br>In any case, I did want to say, that I would never leave pets in a car for many hours.&nbsp; It is cruel.&nbsp; Find a job where pets are allowed.<br><br>

 

[Imladris]

Right now I'm thinking a third shift job or waiting tables in the evening. I really don't have any skills that will allow me to work from anywhere. I hope to find a friend that will watch them for me, but I don't want the cost of petsitting to offset the cost of mobile living.

 

[XFILE36]

Right now I'm thinking a third shift job or waiting tables in the evening. I really don't have any skills that will allow me to work from anywhere. I hope to find a friend that will watch them for me, but I don't want the cost of petsitting to offset the cost of mobile living.

Imladris,

Could you post your location here to see if anyone is in your area to "babysit"?

 

[Ms Linda]

You can train a dog not to bark.&nbsp; When he barks, blast him with an air horn.&nbsp; It works.<br>

I sincerely hope you are joking!