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crofter said:
Welcome xfile36! I am trying to do the same thing. I found a good deal and fair trade, sent the guy pics of my vehicle for trade and never heard from him. I will prob end up camping out like I always do, and will not get to upgrade my camp like I want. I am still putting together components that I can throw together in my dream vehicle when I get it. Just getting the potty figured out was major and I am so glad I took the time doing that. Now I am working on the kitchen components to make tailgaiting easier. (I cook on the tailgait of my truck) So if you see someone out tailgaiting in a Chevrolet, that could be me.  :)
 
Also, if your car is strong, why not tent camp or pull a small travel trailer? Can you lay the seat down in your car and sleep comfortably? There are Prius dwellers on this forum. You could check out how they do things and get some ideas. Good Luck! - Crofter

Crofter,

I have electric seats that pretty much go all the way down in the front,  The rear seat is too small or I am too tall.  I bought the only tent Walmart had about 4 years ago.  I put it up in my living room and I think it's for warm temperatures (not any insulation.)  I wouldn't feel safe in a tent any way.  As for a small travel trailer, I don't have ANY money until I sell my home.  After that I will be able to buy a van.  I really want a stealth class B or I will convert a tall cargo van.  I am not sure what kind of trailer you are talking about.  If you mean the pop up types, I hear they aren't insulated well, and I need to drive across the country.  Also, being a woman, I wouldn't feel safe.

I hope you get that trade like I wish I could get too.  I just bought my first butane stove from the Asian store last night.  I will try it today.  Hope to see you tailgating some day in your van, if that's what you want.  Thanks for the welcome!

Sandi
 
ArtW said:
If you got enough money on the settlement you might get something like this
http://www.cheaprvliving.com/adventure/runaway-mini-camper-review-part-2/
and pull with the BMW, if BMWs can be towed with
as far as cooler summer weather, it's not about distance, it's about elevation, Flagstaff is probably nice right about now, later on higher up
Be nice if someone stepped up and bought the condo, furniture and all, for a fair price

ArtW, Thanks!  I am looking into that trailer blog of Bob'snow.  I really want a class B stealth though and prolly will be able to afford it after.  About the condo, stuff and all, I am trying to get rid of stuff before I put it on the market.  It sounds like a really great idea, but it will most likely sell fast.  I need a bit of time to re-group, etc. before I head out.  I may need to try to rent a couple months in a house/etc. to really figure it all out, what goes in storage, what goes with me, etc. Good idea though,  thanks about Flagstaff and elevation idea!
 
If you are in a smaller rig a storage unit is almost essential. Every time you dig through stuff is an opportunity to decide whether you need things or not. EBay and Craigslist both have their strengths depending on the item. I sold a number of moderately priced items that weren't worth the effort on their own to a pawnshop, maybe $5 and up.
 
CottonTexas said:
XFILE36, I think it's a good call to have a mechanic look over a prospective vehicle if you aren't sure how to do so yourself - this can end up saving you a lot of money in the future.  First I would focus on selling the bimmer for $8,500 (unless it's black on black, then $8,750) - that is if it's a perfectly functioning car.  I would start by having the oil changed (without the extras the shop will want to perform like air filter and trans-service - yada-yada), and clean the car VERY well.  Start on the outside with a garden hose and dish soap and finish with whatever car wax is on sale.  Give the interior the q-tip treatment in all the little knooks and cranies, and clean the leather seats with a mixture of equal parts vinigar and virgin olive oil (add a drop or two of lemon for foo-foo) - this is only cheaper than store-bought leather conditioner if you already have these items.  Once the car is totally clean inside & out / top to bottom, you can ask $8,500 and present a car to a buyer that looks loved.  When a buyer asks about maintenance, you tell them that you just had an oil change done on it, and if they ask about trans service or this or that service, you can just simply say that there aren't enough miles on the car to warrant expensive maintenance, and it functions perfectly as it sits.  

Yes, it's going to suck not having a ride to go look at vans now, but you should have ~$8K to go find a good Chevy or Dodge (I love my Fords, but I wouldn't put one of our girls in a mod-motor - just my opinion), and besides I've been to L.A. (Lord help me, I hope my Mamma never reads this), and there y'all have something that most places don't which is a well-established public transportation system.  When you go to look at a van, try to have the appointment to meet with a mechanic about 30-45min. after the appointment with the seller.  I wouldn't ask if I can take a prospective van to a mechanic, but just do it, and if the seller calls wanting to know where you are during the test-drive, you can tell them then that your tech is looking it over, and that it's safe & sound at Premium Car Checker-Outter's shop, but not to worry that they aren't turning any wrenches on it, and you'll be back just as soon as they're done looking it over.  In my experience no one wants to give permission to have the vehicle looked over, but the sellers with nothing to hide won't get angry when you do - you may have heard the old saying: "It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission."  That means you should probably ask about the title first to be sure you aren't wasting your time and money having it inspected.  

Just as an added bit of what I would recommend for you shop for in a van:  Try to stay under 100K miles as that is where your expensive maintenance comes in (spark plugs, trans & axle service, belts & filters are all due for a change-out by then), but I know that lower mileage vehicles cost more money, so if you're not able to afford a lower mileage van, then see if you can't get one that's already had it's 100K mile service (specifically including spark plugs & automatic transmission filter).  As I said before I would say to look for a Chevy/GMC or a Dodge since Fords have been known to do things like spit out spark plugs, and they have finicky parts like cam phasers.  Price-shop up to $1000 over your max since most sellers out there aren't really expecting to get their full asking price, but be sure to leave yourself enough "just-in-case" money for any unexpected repairs.  I'd argue that the number of owners doesn't matter unless it's an obvious flip, or it's had a history of fast turn-over as that could indicate a more serious problem, but 2-3 owners 2-3 years apart over 10 years wouldn't bother me a bit if it's clean & cared-for.  Commercially owned vans are hit & miss since they're usually well maintained, but they're often "rode hard & put up wet."  A conversion van would offer you a high-top and a better starting point from a builder stand-point, but you'ld be hard-pressed to find a conversion van in an extended length.  

Anyway, I think I've said it all, and I should probably stop before I end up chewing on my shoe - that is if I haven't stuck my foot in my mouth already.  I hope everything works out well for you, and good luck in your adventure.  Cotton
Hi CottonTexas!

Thank you for taking the time and giving me such detailed info to look out for.  LOL on you having been to L.A. and hoping your mother didn't read this!  LOL!   As for telling the seller if they call me while I am having the van inspected, is the name Premium Car Checker-Outter's shop just an example?  I haven't done this before and sorry if I sound green, but I am LOL!  When you test drive, do the sellers ask for your license or what?  I would have thought they come with you?  If I sell mine first, I would be afraid they would steal it if I just let them go drive it for a test.  Can you tell me what I would do if they came for a test on my car?  Thank you :)
 
DLTooley said:
If you are in a smaller rig a storage unit is almost essential.  Every time you dig through stuff is an opportunity to decide whether you need things or not.  EBay and Craigslist both have their strengths depending on the item.  I sold a number of moderately priced items that weren't worth the effort on their own to a pawnshop, maybe $5 and up.

DLTooley,

Thank you for that needed advice.  I have things to sell, but never did this before.  I am female and am concerned about people coming to my condo to buy things.  I see Craigs List does it for free.  A long time ago I looked at ebay and it seemed complicated and expensive.  Has that changed with EBAY?  Do you have any other tips?  Thanks for taking the time.  ~Sandi
 
XFILE36 said:
Hi CottonTexas!

Thank you for taking the time and giving me such detailed info to look out for.  LOL on you having been to L.A. and hoping your mother didn't read this!  LOL!   As for telling the seller if they call me while I am having the van inspected, is the name Premium Car Checker-Outter's shop just an example?  I haven't done this before and sorry if I sound green, but I am LOL!  When you test drive, do the sellers ask for your license or what?  I would have thought they come with you?  If I sell mine first, I would be afraid they would steal it if I just let them go drive it for a test.  Can you tell me what I would do if they came for a test on my car?  Thank you :)

"Premium Car Checker-Outter" is just and example name I thought up as I was typing - sorry. :)  I have done test-drives both ways.  When I was selling my GTO, I went with the buyer, but when I was selling my F150, I just got a copy of their license and insurance (and made sure they weren't expired).  If the seller goes with you, then just "kidnap" them.  :dodgy:   I mean, while you're driving around, just go to the shop to have it inspected & give them the ole' "I hope you don't mind, but I made an appointment to have it checked out by these guys, but don't worry, they aren't doing any work on it, just taking a look, and of course I'll pay."  You can even throw in there, "I heard they're real careful & do good work."  In some instances you can't avoid telling them your plan ahead of time, but having been on both sides of a car-deal, I would be especially worried if a seller didn't want a pro's opinion of the condition of their vehicle for free.  BTW, a lot of times if you can keep the seller talking, they'll divulge more & more information that doesn't come out at first inquiry, so keep 'em chatting.  Hope it all goes well for you, Cotton
 
XFILE36 said:
DLTooley,

Thank you for that needed advice.  I have things to sell, but never did this before.  I am female and am concerned about people coming to my condo to buy things.  I see Craigs List does it for free.  A long time ago I looked at ebay and it seemed complicated and expensive.  Has that changed with EBAY?  Do you have any other tips?  Thanks for taking the time.  ~Sandi

Meeting at a storage unit is safer than a condo.  I couldn't assess risk at a condo, not even being an active CraigsList user, but I'd imagine it is not huge.
 
Best place to meet for CL deals safety wise = local police station
meeting at a storage, there may be fewer people around than at the condo, and people up to no good don't like company
When I sell a car, someone who wants a test drive can leave their DL with me, or, if I'm selling a clunker (it's usually a clunker) I don't sweat it
selling a bike they have to leave the money with me (you wreck it, you bought it)
If someone wanted to take it to a shop, I'd have no problem with that, but honestly i am one of those folks who 'over informs' prospective buyers: it might scotch the sell, or lower the price, but my conscience is clear
I've actually flat refused to sell to a buyer who obvo didn't know what they were looking at unless they had a friend who knew their way around a car, just flat told them 'this is more of a project than you want' but I'm weird like that
 
ArtW said:
Best place to meet for CL deals safety wise = local police station
meeting at a storage, there may be fewer people around than at the condo, and people up to no good don't like company
When I sell a car, someone who wants a test drive can leave their DL with me, or, if I'm selling a clunker (it's usually a clunker) I don't sweat it
selling a bike they have to leave the money with me (you wreck it, you bought it)
If someone wanted to take it to a shop, I'd have no problem with that, but honestly i am one of those folks who 'over informs' prospective buyers: it might scotch the sell, or lower the price, but my conscience is clear
I've actually flat refused to sell to a buyer who obvo didn't know what they were looking at unless they had a friend who knew their way around a car, just flat told them 'this is more of a project than you want' but I'm weird like that
Art, I wish there were more people like you.  Thanks for the police station idea.  Only problem is, some things are too big/heavy.  I will have to figure something else out.
 
DLTooley said:
Meeting at a storage unit is safer than a condo.  I couldn't assess risk at a condo, not even being an active CraigsList user, but I'd imagine it is not huge.

Thanks!
 
ArtW said:
Best place to meet for CL deals safety wise = local police station
meeting at a storage, there may be fewer people around than at the condo, and people up to no good don't like company
When I sell a car, someone who wants a test drive can leave their DL with me, or, if I'm selling a clunker (it's usually a clunker) I don't sweat it
selling a bike they have to leave the money with me (you wreck it, you bought it)
If someone wanted to take it to a shop, I'd have no problem with that, but honestly i am one of those folks who 'over informs' prospective buyers: it might scotch the sell, or lower the price, but my conscience is clear
I've actually flat refused to sell to a buyer who obvo didn't know what they were looking at unless they had a friend who knew their way around a car, just flat told them 'this is more of a project than you want' but I'm weird like that

Most storage units have security cameras.  If you do the meet during the day, staff as well.  Doing a moving sale at a Condo could definitely be arranged safely on a weekend day - traffic means safety, including from your neighbors.
 
DLTooley said:
Most storage units have security cameras.  If you do the meet during the day, staff as well.  Doing a moving sale at a Condo could definitely be arranged safely on a weekend day - traffic means safety, including from your neighbors.
My neighbors suck, so I don't want them in my home.  If I have to I will donate, store, or toss.  I think if I have a storage place that is really visible that could work.  Some of them are just too secluded and dark.  Thanks.
 
yeah the storage places here are never staffed, so you would be on your own. Totally different in a staffed facility
 
ArtW said:
No, no deals with people overseas, sorry, maybe he is legit but that is the most common scam going on CL right now, transactions should be face to face, in person, preferably at a safe location

I often suggest meeting at a municipal, fire station, court house or police station parking lots or even close to store entrances.  These places tend to have surveillance.
 

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