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mikej93030

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I don't know where this message is going to be received but I am trying to get an important message out to the RV community. A miraculous story that has benefits yet to be realized. This has potential to save lives within the RV community. I am not joking. If possible I would like to be connected directly with Bob Wells. But it was able to get this story out is just as good. Go to Facebook and search for Miracle on the salmon. Read the story and if you wish you can contact me personally at 208-867-2405. Text only. This is a breaking story and getting a lot of attention. It's growing and we care about the RV Community as a whole. That's all I can say and I hope this reaches someone that can push it forward. It would be a damn shame if it weren't.
 
Mike why not just tell us about it here? Many don’t have the bandwidth to watch videos


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Not sure if this is what Mike is referring to, I couldn't find anything on Facebook(shitty search skills lol).

It's about a defibrillator saving a guy's life while they were in back country.

https://newsradio1310.com/miracle-on-the-salmon-how-3-men-saved-the-life-of-a-twin-falls-man/


If a mod want to spin this off into another thread, it's a feel good story and defibrillators are life savers. Otherwise, yeah, defibrillators. Maybe I'm wrong and this isn't even close to what Mike was talking about.
 
First Post...obviously an agenda.....So what's the connection ?......we supposed to carry a defibrillator along with our bucket ?

Or was it to somehow thank the unknown rescuers...……………...

(Yes Wabbit...…... that FOX link was in his original UNmoderated post)
 
Mike seems ok(I don't know him), he is religious and it seems to bring him alot of joy. I was going to PM him about personal info, but decided he could make that decision for himself. I also think that this miracle is exactly that to him and he's sincere in the spread the defibrillator message. Hope he comes back if he's interested in cheaprvlivin'. :cool:
 
The pop ups are ridiculous. I didn't watch the video. Attempted to read the article. Pop up after pop up made it impossible.

I hope if I have a heart attack out in the wilderness no one comes along with a defibrillator. Just let me go.
 
mikej93030 said:
I don't know where this message is going to be received but I am trying to get an important message out to the RV community. A miraculous story that has benefits yet to be realized. This has potential to save lives within the RV community. I am not joking. If possible I would like to be connected directly with Bob Wells. But it was able to get this story out is just as good. Go to Facebook and search for Miracle on the salmon. Read the story and if you wish you can contact me personally at 208-867-2405. Text only. This is a breaking story and getting a lot of attention. It's growing and we care about the RV Community as a whole. That's all I can say and I hope this reaches someone that can push it forward. It would be a damn shame if it weren't.

Unfortunately, even if you are sincere -- and the math says you are not -- this is exactly the tactic spammers use on as many forums as they can access per hour to steer clicks toward the websites they own or that are paying them to do that.

Especially from a new poster, you have to build up a level of trust to be taken seriously.  Someone "talking without talking" by spewing out a link after some text that may be innocuous, puzzling, or just silly is par for the course.  You cannot expect the average reader to be so saintly as to assume good intentions when approaches like this one have long since proven to be insincere, self-serving, or even nasty.

If you believe in your content, provide it directly.

If you do not believe it ... why should we care?
 
cyndi said:
I hope if I have a heart attack out in the wilderness no one comes along with a defibrillator. Just let me go.

You don’t get to go. You have to stay here with the rest of us.
 
cyndi said:
I hope if I have a heart attack out in the wilderness no one comes along with a defibrillator. Just let me go.

This would be my preferred way of going.  A long, drawn out affair, not so much.
 
A long walk in the winter, lay down for a long nap.
You die somewhere you want to be.
Have "Do Not Resuscitate" tattooed on your chest.
Beats lying in a bed, attended to by low paid caregivers, until your time is up.
 
Here you go... a Defibrillator Value Package ... truly a bargain at only $1395.00

https://www.amazon.com/PHILIPS-Philips-Value-Package-Bundle/dp/B00KSAL7LS/

Essential vandweller equipment, just in case.

As for myself, I'll just swallow a teaspoon of cayenne mixed with water, if things get bad. That's supposed to stop heart attacks. I know because I read it on the web. *tongue in cheek* Please do your own research!
 
Please, some people watch/read this stuff like it is groundbreaking headline news. Yah the guy was "lucky". I am glad he made it.
 
wayne49 said:
A long walk in the winter, lay down for a long nap.
You die somewhere you want to be.
Have "Do Not Resuscitate" tattooed on your chest.
Beats lying in a bed, attended to by low paid caregivers, until your time is up.

I'm not sure that it's wrong or that it's right.  So much of life comes down to the luck of the draw.

Caregiving is a pretty tough job even though it's not paid well or, sometimes, well-esteemed.  Except by those that know what it's like, who tend to hold caregivers in the exceptionally high esteem they deserve.  It's a very intimate, difficult, and often emotionally draining task.  It's necessary day and night, no matter how tired you are, and you can never truly do it well by throwing your weight around or offloading tasks to somebody else, if anybody else could even conceivably want the job -- you have to be there, right here, right now, the very best self you could ever be to a person who has no choice but to rely on you and often may be in no state to appreciate the tremendous thought and sympathy, precise medically-directed care and empathy, and patience to listen and talk and commiserate and hold dear the fears and objections and inabilities to understand that beset the elderly and incapacitated.  Indeed, the aggressive nature that comes to the fore when you become someone who has to be "managed" rather than simply live without anyone's input and without any desire for anyone to chip in is a trial for every caregiver and the basis for problems that might keep increasing.

I feel I have written this poorly.  So be it.  My objective was to share a bit of what it's like on the other side, that of caregivers, and take some of our society's sting for being poorly paid.  Some of the poorly paid people are among the most productive you will ever encounter, and easily among the most kind.  There are sociopaths making many millions per year on Wall Street, and they are celebrated feverishly and unrelentingly.  There are people paid barely a living wage who extend themselves in ways you may not even be able to extend yourselves, no matter your education or supposed refinement, spiritual or otherwise.  They do the job; they take the time.  They look into the eyes, listen, respond accordingly by marshaling the best of their patience and themselves to make people in tired and stressed and difficult states accept the inequity of life a little bit more instead of going into their lives and their ultimate declines bitter, resentful, raging, fearful, paranoid, aggressive, or feeling simply unloved and not listened to and unnoticed.  

The end of your days is an ending, after all.  However much that matters to you, there is no way to change it.  Ending something can enrage.  Disappoint.  Spark a reaction, perhaps a consuming one.  But thank goodness there are those who might help you in the process.  People who truly care and do their best.  One day their time will come, and they know it.  But in the meantime, they lend their time, their heart, their sympathy and empathy, their mere presence as the clock ticks off its seconds, to you.  They know and feel far more than you might think, because no one would take that helper position who did not care.  And few who stay in it for long have not had to consider the effect of time's passing on their own friends and loved ones, and wondered what on earth to do, and how to feel, and how to do it better.  

I think being attended to by good people who try their best is pretty much the best-case scenario, not the worst.  If you raised their pay, that would be great and would attract better people.  But people are people and I am not so cynical as to believe most people will not try to do their best in their job or exhibit no care toward others, especially the most incapacitated, lonely, or on their way out.  Paid or unpaid, I know that I did not.  But I'm not special.  People are special, and recognize that in each other.  Those who do not, would not tend to become caregivers ... because they just don't care.  It's a job that naturally screens itself from bad candidates.  Some might slip through, but most wouldn't even want to or try to.  Or last long if they did.  It's not an easy job in any way.  

If you're in a decent place, with decent people, a good foster home(first step before end-stage nursing home or hospice) is a wonderful relief, and better than most people at that stage can take care of themselves.  Seriously, don't fear it but look forward to it.  At that point you will be better taken care of than you can take care of yourself.

The real horror story?  Being left on your own, to your own devices.

As a guardian/conservator, I have some of those stories.  Sad to say, the horrors are normal.  You simply don't see them as you are wallowing in your own sh*t, misunderstanding, and, sometimes, deluded self-regard and estimation of your own capacity.   Because you just don't know anymore. As well as ability, judgment disappears.  You can sometimes no longer see what is and what you are, and your own situation.  

I think you get the drift.
 
if I have one I hope to hell a defib is right next to me.....1st heart attack I want to survive cause if you have a small one, a person can live long and healthy after and be productive and happy in life......a bad one, well hell (when, not if) the second hits let me go.

I saw Cyndi's post and decided I ain't going to check this out cause of the impossibility she had, so......when I read the comments I decided I could chime in about having a big med emergency out in Bum F Egypt.   I would like a miracle on a bad injury/med trouble but it is what it is for all of us when crap goes down so....
 
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