Long term health and diet study published in Lancet

[Minivanmotoman]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/03/health/diet-global-deaths-study/index.html

 

[RVTravel]

Potentially...

"In summary, we found that poor dietary habits are associated with a range of chronic diseases and can potentially be a major contributor to NCD mortality in all countries worldwide. This finding highlights the urgent need for coordinated global efforts to improve the quality of human diet. Given the complexity of dietary behaviours and the wide range of influences on diet, improving diet requires active collaboration of a variety of actors throughout the food system, along with policies targeting multiple sectors of the food system."

 

[lenny flank]

Meh, I eat what I want.

 

[maki2]

This is why in the USA they teach the basic human nutritional needs for good health in elementary schools. They have been teaching it for a great many decades, I remember those lessons from when I was in elementary school in the 1950s.

I am not sure how anyone in the USA gets through the school system without having it taught to them since it is required teaching. But maybe it is not as easily understood for someone who does not have English as their first language. Even the children's educational programs such as Sesame street and others teach these basic nutritional lessons.

 

[Seminole Wind]

sounds like another report full of gobbly gook and double talk

as for learning "healthy eating" in the american school system... lol now thats a laugh. the food served in our schools is some of the worst and least regulated. ever notice that school foods dont have nutrition data labels? well the food companies sure noticed and dump the lowest quality crap they can get away with on our public schools. in school you get taught whatever is the flavor of the day, paid for by the lobbying of the industrial food giants. food and nutrition "science" in the usa has been sold to the highest bidder. no public school will tell you about all the chemicals in your food, nor will they tell you how sick the animals are before they are slaughtered. they dont teach you that due to generations of chemical agriculture that the basic nutritional content of the industrial foods produced have dwindled tremendously.

the fact is, you can not eat healthy by buying the cheapest food off the shelf at the local mega-mart. irregardless of if it is a "proper" diet or not

when we eat foods, plant or animal that were not healthy and vibrant, why are we surprised that we end up unhealthy?

 

[bullfrog]

I use cooked salt water mussels and the best looking night crawlers around, not to mention imported anchovies and feed the stripped bass on a regular basis before I cook and eat them. You guys just make me think I need to go fishing!

 

[flying kurbmaster]

This is why in the USA they teach the basic human nutritional needs for good health in elementary schools.  They have been teaching it for a great many decades, I remember those lessons from when I was in elementary school in the 1950s.

I am not sure how anyone in the USA gets through the school system without having it taught to them since it is required teaching. But maybe it is not as easily understood for someone who does not have English as their first language. Even the children's educational programs such as Sesame street and others teach these basic nutritional lessons.

 Remember those circles that stood at the front of most classrooms with the wedges of proper or balanced diet. I read that they were published by the milk marketing board and the meat producers of america , donated generously to all schools. I am sometimes surprised that the tobacco industrie didn;t get a cigarette put on one of the wedges, I am sure it was not for lack of trying. And that my friend is who has taught America about nutrition. On todays food circle we wouldn’t allow that sort of biased blatant advertising,  I bet they changed it, I am sure it has a burger, fish filet, fries and coke on the pie shapes generously donated to all schools as a community project along with fluro vest with a M logo printed on the back, to keep our children safe while guarding crosswalks and our devoted teachers visible while supervising on the grounds.

 

[B and C]

... the food served in our schools is some of the worst and least regulated. ever notice that school foods dont have nutrition data labels? well the food companies sure noticed and dump the lowest quality crap they can get away with on our public schools. 

My sister was the nutritionistionist for a school system.  She has a masters in nutrition where most medical doctors only have one class for one semester in nutrition.  There is no way in he(double hockey sticks) she would feed kids stuff that was bad for them.  She ate in the same cafeterias.  States regulate what the requirements for the meals are.

I have no idea where your info comes from.

 

[Doubleone]

It always gets my hackles up whenever I hear talk of "policies" regarding food.  I'll keep this brief, because it all starts sounding like politics or religion, and I really don't want to go there...  

All my life I had the so-called best and the brightest educators school me on the 'food pyramid'.  These were well-respected intelligent folks with a bunch of letters behind their names... and I'm sure they meant well.  Unfortunately, they got it all wrong!  The food pyramid (aka American diet) is based on the Seven Countries Study by Ancel Keys in 1958.  This was the basis for national nutritional recommendations, including schools.  Keys also developed what was later called the 'K' ration.  The problem is that Keys' study has several flaws and confounds, and it was debunked around 2016.  

I won't go into full detail here as to the why, just summarize that we need fat in our diets.  Fat in food does not automatically raise blood fats, cholesterol does not automatically raise blood cholesterol.  Fat doesn't make us fat, carbohydrates (sugar) makes us fat.  This is straight from four physicians with whom I regularly ride bicycles, and based on my own experience.  When I got seriously into cycling I went to a physician who specializes in high-end athletes and treating obesity.  He's a cyclist himself and he prescribed a diet of 60-80% fat with moderate protein and as little carbs as possible.  I ride with another physician who is full-blown diabetic herself and she treats other diabetics, another physician's wife is diabetic, and another's wife has MS.  All eat a high-fat low-carb diet, and all rode their first 100 mile rides after switching diets.   Over my lifetime, I struggled with my weight.  Since going low-carb/Ketogenic I've never been healthier or more athletically capable.   Interesting fact, Navy Seals eat a Ketogenic diet because it is more oxygen efficient for re-breather diving.  For those of you with enough bandwidth, Netflix has a good documentary 'The Magic Pill' (2017).  It explains the science of high-fat diets and it's well worth the watch   I just wish I knew all this 40 years ago.  

So it really worries me when I hear talk about imposing policies on citizens regarding food.  For example, in New York politicians banned 32oz sugary sodas, but you can still get a 22oz.  California is discussing a tax on sugar sodas.  Denmark already has a fat tax; a special tax imposed on fatty foods.  Consider that fatty foods are the healthiest diet for me, yet if I went to Denmark I'd have to pay a premium just to eat my normal diet.

 

[ByeBye]

CNN, or a segment of the government, is the last place I'd look for nutritional guidelines, too much corporate influence from mega "food" producers' lobbyists.

I eat for two reasons, sometimes they overlap, best fuel for my body and sensory pleasure, tastes good. For myself, and only myself, I've found, almost invariably, that the less adulterated, more fresh, less processed and/or cooked a food item is, the better it is for me. Meats are a little different but, if possible, I look for pasture/small farm humanely raised and harvested items. It is my belief, and not trying to convince anyone of it, that how animals are treated affects the meat.

I'm not vegetarian, vegan, paleo, **** or any other 'label'. I intuitively use research, look outside the established box and listen to my body. Doesn't mean I always follow my own findings but it is my intention to do so.

 

[RVTravel]

Regarding calories ingested, the bottom line for me is...however much you eat...if you are not going to burn it off over the next three hours then some of it will be stored as fat.

 

[BelgianPup]

Almost everything we eat has been dosed with Roundup, so how good can it be?

The food business is controlled by money, not nutritional excellence.

 

[RVTravel]

Freedom and commercialism allow us to eat what we want. The vegans are out to get us with these bogus mind control food studies.

 

[B and C]

Almost everything we eat has been dosed with Roundup, so how good can it be?

The food business is controlled by money, not nutritional excellence.

My father-in-law was a farmer.  Roundup never touched a piece of his crop/land.

The food business is controlled by money, it is called capitalism.  When the public buys on price, quality is driven down.  Look at the way consumer items used to be made (fans for example).   You invested in one and it lasted.  Nowadays they are throw away.

 

[Seminole Wind]

Almost everything we eat has been dosed with Roundup, so how good can it be?

The food business is controlled by money, not nutritional excellence.

while industrial farming sprays some 200m pounds of Glyphosate (roundup) on various crops each year. not all foods are sprayed with the weed killer. corn and soy being the biggest offenders followed quite possibly by your lawn. while you might not eat your lawn you can get significant exposure from grass. almost every field of grass from parks to court house lawns, soccer fields to church lawns is hosed with the stuff.  there are many easy ways to avoid it. simply buying certified organic gets you food that was (at least) not intentionally sprayed with round up or most other pesticides or chemicals. you can grow your own in the garden or shop at farmers markets and local vegetable stands where you can talk to the growers and find out their growing practices. the harder thing to avoid, that many dont think of is secondary exposure where the meat or milk you consume comes from animals that ate forage (hay/grass) that was heavily sprayed with it. win one for the vegans... but again, simply buying organic makes a difference. if you cant afford (in your opinion) organics then google the "clean 15" and the "dirty dozen". spend yourmoney where you get the best improvement.

as some have inferred, buying the cheapest food available is not likely to lead to a long healthy life.