Honda 2000i eco throttle problem

[Mobilesport]

@ Zonie
Its a 750 watt Walmart toaster.
Everything seems to work ok when it aint so hot outside. 
I might climate control my gensets electronics

 

[highdesertranger]

I am confused 14A @120v =1680 watts. 14A @ 110v = 1540 watts. something is not adding up. was your kill-a-watt plugged in to your genny when you ran the test. can you plug it into the grid? and check the numbers. were these numbers from when it was hot outside? since that's when you are having problems I would try to replicate. I am thinking one of two things, when it gets real hot the genny is not up to spec or the head pressure of the compressor is going though the roof when it's hot. just need to figure out which one. highdesertranger

 

[Mobilesport]

@ Highdesertranger

Killawatt was plugged into the genset while testing. 

I'll try powering from the grid and get those numbers. 

No , it wasn't hot out when I did the testing , I'm waiting for the weather to get hot and I'll get those numbers too.

I'm thinking its a generator problem since my toaster has issues too and plus I heard another guy was having simular problems with his Honda , when his generator got older.
His generator still outputed electric but not the full amount .

 

[Mobilesport]

Personally, I wouldn't run an AC in ECO-THROTTLE Mode. Kind of like I drive, easy on the equipment.

From the manual:

"With the switch in the ON position, engine speed is automatically
lowered when loads are reduced, turned off, or disconnected. When
appliances are turned on or reconnected, the engine returns to the
proper speed to power the electrical load. In the OFF position, the
Eco-Throttle system does not operate.

Appliances with large start-up power demands may not allow the
engine to reach normal operating rpm when they are connected to the
generator. Turn the Eco-Throttle switch to the OFF position and
connect the appliance to the generator. If the engine still will not reach
normal operating speed, check that the appliance does not exceed the
rated load capacity of the generator."

http://cdn.powerequipment.honda.com/pe/pdf/manuals/00X31Z076300.pdf

Guy

Its really loud in normal mode

 

[akrvbob]

One of our members had a Honda 1000 that stopped producing its rated amount of power--it just wouldn't do it anymore. Maybe that member will speak up.
Bob

 

[Mobilesport]

I've been experimenting with this problem and I've came to the conclusion that Its heat gain from the sun overheatng the electronics , everytime I cool the electronics and keep the sun blocked out it works fine , a reflectix shield and a temperature sensor mounted next to electronics would be a good thing.
Be able to read the temp from indoors.

 

[highdesertranger]

on the genny or on the AC? highdesertranger

 

[Mobilesport]

The genset

 

[highdesertranger]

ah ok, makes sense any shade I would provide I would elevate it from the gen set to allow for air circulation. highdesertranger

 

[Diesel4Life]

Yes indeed, removing heat is a primary issue with regards to engines/motors especially air-cooled examples. But there are simple ways to mediate this problem. Being sure to place the generator in a well ventilated and shaded area, keeping up with "all preventative maintenance including inspecting and cleaning the air filter and air intake." And placing a energy efficient fan to help move air across the unit and remove heat when temperatures dictate.

Inexpensive Infrared non contact thermometer laser temperature guns, can be so incredible helpful/useful for this purpose and so many other applications.

Example for reference; https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FYSKXZO?psc=1

 

[Almost There]

One of our members had a Honda 1000 that stopped producing its rated amount of power--it just wouldn't do it anymore. Maybe that member will speak up.
Bob

That might have been me!

My Honda 1000 wouldn't power the Iota 55 amp battery charger that was well below the generator rated wattage output. It's a decade old now and admittedly, it had been abused in terms of not doing monthly 1 hour maintenance run time on it. I took it in to a Honda authorized repair place and the only thing they had to test the wattage output with was a skill saw which it also wouldn't power. They, of course, tried to push a second hand 2000 gennie on me - told me that doing a complete engine overhaul on the 1000 would cost more than a new one....  I can't swing the 2000 in and out of the van so I limped home using a small battery charger that would run on the 1000.

I took the 1000 in the a trusted dealer here who did an overhaul on it and got it back just in time for me to find out that my brand new 55 amp battery charger wasn't working even on shore power. My closest Iota dealer is 4 provinces away so it looks like I have to wait until November when I'm back stateside to figure the whole power thing out.  It does fine and runs nice and smoothly with the Schumacher 20 amp charger but of course takes forever and a day to charge the batteries to full. BTW, it's not a very smart charger.....

I may very well end up with a new Honda 1000 gennie, who knows! Good thing I have a goo dealer in Chicago who ships North American wide.

 

[Benjamin Dejo]

That was probably pretty loud wasn't it?

Not at all.   Not as quiet as ECO mode, but much quieter than most generators.

I also ran it from a 50 foot extension cord, so I couldn't even hear the generator from inside.

 

[Mobilesport]

That might have been me!

My Honda 1000 wouldn't power the Iota 55 amp battery charger that was well below the generator rated wattage output. It's a decade old now and admittedly, it had been abused in terms of not doing monthly 1 hour maintenance run time on it. I took it in to a Honda authorized repair place and the only thing they had to test the wattage output with was a skill saw which it also wouldn't power. They, of course, tried to push a second hand 2000 gennie on me - told me that doing a complete engine overhaul on the 1000 would cost more than a new one....  I can't swing the 2000 in and out of the van so I limped home using a small battery charger that would run on the 1000.

I took the 1000 in the a trusted dealer here who did an overhaul on it and got it back just in time for me to find out that my brand new 55 amp battery charger wasn't working even on shore power. My closest Iota dealer is 4 provinces away so it looks like I have to wait until November when I'm back stateside to figure the whole power thing out.  It does fine and runs nice and smoothly with the Schumacher 20 amp charger but of course takes forever and a day to charge the batteries to full. BTW, it's not a very smart charger.....

I may very well end up with a new Honda 1000 gennie, who knows! Good thing I have a goo dealer in Chicago who ships North American wide.

I was once told that I should'nt run more then a 45 amp charger with a Honda 1000 ,,, I don't know if that's correct info but that was what I was told.

 

[Almost There]

I was once told that I should'nt run more then a 45 amp charger with a Honda 1000 ,,, I don't know if that's correct info but that was what I was told.

Northern AZ Sun and Wind double and triple checked the rated wattage output of the generator according to Honda and the required wattage with Iota specs when I was buying the charger. We were deliberately matching the wattage needed with the output available because I knew that I was going to be depending on the gennie to run the battery charger. The 55 also matches the recommended charging power for my battery system based on Trojans' specs.

When the generator was new I regularly ran up to 6 100 watt light bulbs off of it at art/craft shows to light my booth with some power to spare. I had to turn all but one off if I wanted to use my mini microwave to demo a product so I knew that for the first few years of it's life it had more than adequate output. The Honda 1000 is rated for something like 900 watts output IIRC. The 55 amp charger only draws 660 watts so there is a clear margin of power needs with no start up spike.

The generator was obviously putting out less than 600 watts after I had it stored in cold moist northern winter conditions for several years. Apparently there are a number of things that can reduce output as the generator ages and internal rust is one of them. We'll see if the overhaul that was done on it has restored it to full capacity. I've got my fingers crossed because I'd really rather not have to buy another generator. I have other things I want to do with that money! BTW, it is now being treated with the loving care it deserves...

 

[rvpopeye]

A 50' ext cord will eat up some watts !