Home Baked Bread

[Salida Scarlett]

<strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; color: #888888; font-size: medium;">Hi guys, </span></strong><br /><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; color: #888888; font-size: medium;">&nbsp; I've been trying to figure out some of the energy issues that will go along with my plans/dreams of living the RV life. One of which is wondering if there is any possible hope of making my usual home baked bread, which I usually start in my bread machine, (takes up room), and then I take it out and shape it and pop it into a very hot preheated oven for 25 to 30 minutes. Just wondering if anyone else has dealt with this problem, and if so, what were the results, issues or fixes. I have to admit I am pretty fussy about good bread, but I realize also there will have to be compromises in this lifestyle, and the bread issue may be one of them. </span></strong><br /><br /><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; color: #888888; font-size: medium;">Thanks! </span></strong><br /><br /><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; color: #888888; font-size: medium;">Scarlett</span></strong>

 

[Guest]

Hi Scarlett,<br />Here is an idea that a good friend used to use and he made everything from pizza to bread to quiche, etc. I am not one to bother but this is cool.<br /><br />Another way if you live in the desert or anywhere there is an abundance of sun, is to do like Bob W. does and some others I think and go to solar oven baking. <br /><br />If you drive a lot the 12v lunchbox stove can do a fair job of baking some things...I don't know about bread....<br /><br />Here is a good idea also:<br /><br />http://theboatgalley.com/omnia-stove-top-baking-oven/<br /><br />Have fun...<br />Bri

 

[Salida Scarlett]

<br />That's really an awesome idea. I learned a new trick, and also in the process learned about the Origa Stove...<img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" />&nbsp; http://www.swego.com/store/pc/home.asp<br /><br /> Come to think of it, I remember seeing a pic of a lady who baked a beautiful looking loaf of bread in a solar oven, outside. That would sure be a good option, (maybe), depending where you were located at the time. <br /><br />Thanks for the tip, <br /><br />Scarlett

 

[Guest]

Whoops...Sorry Scarlett, I goofed and didn't include the first thing I mentioned...here it is:<br /><br />http://compare.ebay.com/like/200820966188?var=lv&amp;ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&amp;var=sbar<br /><br />Hope this helps...<br /><br />As far as the solar oven goes, you can spend a lot of money on them or check these out....:<br /><br />http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Cooking/cooking.htm<br /><br />Or this one that I think I will make myself, I like that it will fold up and not take up much room...I don't know how well it works so will need some experimenting...for me...<br /><br />http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/CooKit<br /><br />Bri

 

[highdesertranger]

scarlett i use a&nbsp; dutch oven.&nbsp; with coals or on a bbq.&nbsp; works great.&nbsp; you must use a bbq with a lid and a oven with legs and put a heat sink under the oven so the bottom doesn't overheat.&nbsp; i have a good reciepe from mother earth news for no knead bread.&nbsp; you do have to fold the dough a few times but its pretty easy.&nbsp; the loaf comes out like a big old fashion round loaf and taste great.&nbsp; if you want i'll try to find a link.&nbsp; i have it printed out so i do not have it saved.&nbsp;&nbsp; highdesertranger

 

[angeli]

Hi Scarlett,<br /><br />This is one of the best burner/oven combo's that I've found. &nbsp;The stove output is 10,500 BTU which is quite a lot of heat, even good enough for canning. &nbsp;The oven is much better than most camping ovens in that it is very sealed in the body, so that the temp is more easily controlled and even, which is important in baking, is it not!!?? &nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" /><br /><br /><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><a href="http://www.stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?ref=Miles&amp;action=store&amp;item=StoveOvenCombo">St. Paul Mercantile's Oven/Stove combo</a></strong></span><br /><br />Just a thought. &nbsp;They are also many propane units available on Amazon, etc, but I prefer this way personally because I consider kerosene a safer and cheap, easy to find fuel. &nbsp;Also fewer empty tanks in the landfill.<br /><br />Good luck, and I hope I get to meet you at RTR someday and taste your bread. &nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" />

 

[joey]

http://www.sears.com/camp-chef-port...0602784000P?prdNo=18&blockNo=18&blockType=G18

 

[Salida Scarlett]

<br />You guys are SO sweet! <img src="/images/boards/smilies/angel.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" /> I wish my earthbound neighbors were even a smidgen as nice and friendly as you all are. Thank you so much for all the great ideas. It's a promise, when I get rolling, I'm gonna invite you all over for coffee and home baked cinnamon rolls. I can hardly wait! <br /><br />Thanks bunches, <br /><br />Scarlett

 

[josephusminimus]

scarlett i use a&nbsp; dutch oven.&nbsp; with coals or on a bbq.&nbsp; works great.&nbsp; you must use a bbq with a lid and a oven with legs and put a heat sink under the oven so the bottom doesn't overheat.&nbsp; i have a good reciepe from mother earth news for no knead bread.&nbsp; you do have to fold the dough a few times but its pretty easy.&nbsp; the loaf comes out like a big old fashion round loaf and taste great.&nbsp; if you want i'll try to find a link.&nbsp; i have it printed out so i do not have it saved.&nbsp;&nbsp; highdesertranger

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[SirJoey]

<br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>I have a Sun Oven. Purchased it about 3 years ago, &amp; although I paid a premium price for it, it's one of <br />the few things I've never regretted buying!</strong></span><br /><br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>In good sun, it'll hit 350 degrees! I've never baked regular bread in it, but I HAVE baked cornbread in it.&nbsp;</strong></span><br /><br /><strong><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">No carbon footprint, doesn't heat up the kitchen in the summer like a regular oven, &amp; food prepared in it <br />really DOES taste better (a claim I was skeptical of till I found out for myself that it's true)!</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">

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[angeli]

Sir Joey,<br /><br />That is so absolutely cool! &nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" />

 

[wandering mike]

Sir Joey. &nbsp;I too think you got a good device there.

 

[josephusminimus]

<br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>I have a Sun Oven. Purchased it about 3 years ago, &amp; although I paid a premium price for it, it's one of <br />the few things I've never regretted buying!</strong></span><br /><br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>In good sun, it'll hit 350 degrees! I've never baked regular bread in it, but I HAVE baked cornbread in it.&nbsp;</strong></span><br /><br /><strong><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">No carbon footprint, doesn't heat up the kitchen in the summer like a regular oven, &amp; food prepared in it <br />really DOES taste better (a claim I was skeptical of till I found out for myself that it's true)!</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">

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<br /><br />Cool device Joey, and better knowing it worked well for you.&nbsp; Final nail in the idea-coffin telling me I'm going to make myself one of those things.&nbsp; Gracias, amigo.

 

[wandering mike]

Here's the link to a&nbsp;<a href="http://www.motherearthnews.com/Real-Food/2007-12-01/Easy-No-Knead-Dutch-Oven-Crusty-Bread.aspx">Mother Earth No Knead Bread recipe.</a>&nbsp; It looks great, but appears to use a regular oven. &nbsp;Not sure how it would work with a solar oven as it calls for a temp of 475. &nbsp;Sir Joey says he only gets 350 out of what is clearly a good solar oven. &nbsp;<br /><br />Any one on this list actually made bread in a solar oven? &nbsp;Here is a <a href="http://modernsurvivalblog.com/survival-kitchen/how-to-make-simple-bread-in-a-solar-oven/">web page with a video</a> I found of someone using an oven that looks like Sir Joey's to make bread. &nbsp;But the mother earth news recipe called for a temp of 475 and Sir Joey says he got his oven, obviously a good one, up to 350. &nbsp;I would sorely love to have a way to make a great artisan crusty loaf in a solar oven. &nbsp; &nbsp;

 

[josephusminimus]

Here's the link to a&nbsp;<a href="http://www.motherearthnews.com/Real-Food/2007-12-01/Easy-No-Knead-Dutch-Oven-Crusty-Bread.aspx">Mother Earth No Knead Bread recipe.</a>&nbsp; It looks great, but appears to use a regular oven. &nbsp;Not sure how it would work with a solar oven as it calls for a temp of 475. &nbsp;Sir Joey says he only gets 350 out of what is clearly a good solar oven. &nbsp;<br /><br />Any one on this list actually made bread in a solar oven? &nbsp;Here is a <a href="http://modernsurvivalblog.com/survival-kitchen/how-to-make-simple-bread-in-a-solar-oven/">web page with a video</a> I found of someone using an oven that looks like Sir Joey's to make bread. &nbsp;But the mother earth news recipe called for a temp of 475 and Sir Joey says he got his oven, obviously a good one, up to 350. &nbsp;I would sorely love to have a way to make a great artisan crusty loaf in a solar oven. &nbsp; &nbsp;

<br /><br />Hi Mike.&nbsp; Evidently the issues of portable aren't a part of the usual solar oven cooking, so maybe something along the lines of an horno could be made solar for cooking bread.&nbsp; I've eaten more bread from wood heated hornos than I'd care to remember, and it satisfies your description, always has.&nbsp; A few thousand years of Zuni,&nbsp;Hopi&nbsp;and&nbsp;other Pueblo tribes have the technique perfected.<br /><br /><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ven)_at_Taos_Pueblo_in_New_Mexico_in_2003.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horno">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horno</a><br /><br />

The procedure still used in parts of <a title="New Mexico" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico">New Mexico</a> and <a title="Arizona" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona">Arizona</a> is to build a fire inside the horno and, when the proper amount of time has passed, remove the embers and ashes and insert the bread to be cooked. In the case of corn, the embers are doused with water and the corn is then inserted into the horno to be "steam"-cooked. When cooking meats, the oven is fired to a "white hot" temperature (approximately 650 &deg;F or 340&deg;C), the coals are moved to the back of the oven, and the meats placed inside. The smoke-hole and door are sealed with mud. A twenty-one-pound turkey will take 2&frac12; to 3 hours to cook.<sup id="cite_ref-Snodgrass_1-1" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horno#cite_note-Snodgrass-1"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a></sup> It comes out very succulent. Since the horno is made of adobe, it wicks the moisture into the food in a natural convection.<sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space: nowrap;">[<em><a title="Wikipedialease clarify" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_clarify"><span title="The text in the vicinity of this tag needs clarification or removal of jargon from February 2012">clarific</span></a></em></sup>

<br /><br />But &nbsp;converting to solar might actually work if the stucco finish was black and the mirrors were positioned in such a way as to begin attracting sunlight from sunup onward.&nbsp; The heat inside there is cumulative.<br /><br />In fact, for solar the design might work better with flat, vertical black walls and insulation covering all surfaces not exposed to sunlight or reflected sunlight during the parts of the day when they wouldn't be.

 

[josephusminimus]

<br /><br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>In good sun, it'll hit 350 degrees! I've never baked regular bread in it, but I HAVE baked cornbread in it.&nbsp;</strong></span><br /><br /><strong><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">No carbon footprint, </span><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">

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<br /><br />Joey:&nbsp; I'm trying to think of some reason that same gadget couldn't double as an incinerator for human body wastes, in addition to being great for cooking food.&nbsp; Talk about going GREEN!<br /><br />350 F is plenty hot enough to kill all pathogens, and if it didn't incinerate, it would certainly de-water all the objectionables enough so's nobody else would have to deal with them.&nbsp; <br /><br />In fact, an old-style pressure-cooker in there with a coil of copper tubing coming off could act as a retort.&nbsp;&nbsp;A place to put the cat litter from last night&nbsp;could allow a person to distill and re-use the water from the urine and feces for drinking or cooking.

 

[SirJoey]

...A place to put the cat litter from last night&nbsp;could allow a person to distill and re-use the water from the urine and feces for drinking or cooking.

<br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>Yum... I'm gettin' thirsty just thinkin' about it!&nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/rofl.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" /><br /><br /></strong></span>

 

[josephusminimus]

...A place to put the cat litter from last night&nbsp;could allow a person to distill and re-use the water from the urine and feces for drinking or cooking.

<br /><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>Yum... I'm gettin' thirsty just thinkin' about it!&nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/rofl.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /><br /><br /></strong></span>

<br /><br />You ain't going to find anything much greener than that.&nbsp; Remember where you heard it first.

 

[Guest]

If you feed the cats the right stuff, maybe you can work out your own 'shine recipe....not saying you should, understand...<br />Bri

 

[josephusminimus]

If you feed the cats the right stuff, maybe you can work out your own 'shine recipe....not saying you should, understand...<br />Bri

My feline friends are more into providing beer.&nbsp; I don't think they'd care for a diet where shine could eventually be the product.&nbsp;