Getting rid of dog

[WalkaboutTed]

Sorry, I side with Firtree. My #4 son, a 6' tall soldier had a "non-serious" bite as a child on his torso. He still has the scar and to this day, is nervous when an unfamiliar dog behaves aggressively. The dog had bitten someone before.

Cheaters cheat, liars lie and biters bite. One bite is bad enough. That's all I have to say.
Ted

 

[highdesertranger]

there is no rule on the forum that says you can't tell someone they are wrong. there are rules that basically say you can't belittle other members. so keep it civil.

I will not offer my 2 cents on the dog subject because people might take it the wrong way. highdesertranger

 

[travelaround]

Yes, Firtree had a good recommendation and should be commended for posting the proper procedure for biting dogs. The dog needs to be evaluated. It sounds like she's in emotional pain over the problems her people are going through. I also think people should be cautious about how they speak to the OP who we know is going through extremely difficult life circumstances right now. Suggestions are good but when it starts to veer into what sounds almost like bullying, there's going to be a backlash. It is human nature. Conversely, when there's a bad reaction to a lovingly-given suggestion, it is time to back off - at least, that is what I would do. I wouldn't have the heart for further communication at that point.

 

[travelaround]

One bite is bad enough.

California state law (which I know a bit from studies) allows one bite but the owner can be sued for any subsequent dog bites.

Definitely, time to rethink dog ownership in these circumstances. It is a good idea to look for dog bite laws in your state.

 

[travelaround]

Here you go...

Half way down this page you can look up your state's dog bite law.
https://dogbitelaw.com/

 

[ByeBye]

"It appears this is a dog with many issues you do not have the ability to correct. This is not a happy animal. It is scared and biting because it feels unsafe. These issues may or may not be correctable. You are the responsible adult human being. As such You have to put this dog in a safe situation where the dog can be evaluated, humans can be safe and the dog is not just tossed in a back yard in Wisconsin winter or dumped on the road because it is too difficult. Do the right for this poor animal."

Sounds pretty judgemental and personal to me. There isn't anything "right" about condescension, imo.. Somebody got triggered, had a reaction and decided to chastise.
I need to learn to stay out of this nonsense.

 

[WalkaboutTed]

Wow, travelaround,, that's an interesting site. I didn't know that Arizona was a "no-bite" state. I didn't know such existed. No wonder why my homeowner's insurance company wanted to know if I had a dog and wanted to know the breed!
Ted

 

[JuliaAnne2018]

It isn't what people say it's how they say it. People can have their opinion. People can disagree with me all they want, but the second they start telling me "I'm right and your wrong," I am done. I'm done with about 50% of you. I have so many evil things running through my mind right now but I'll keep it to myself only for the half of you who do have respect for another person's point of view other than your own. I hope you're happy some of you who think you know it all. Because if I don't come around anymore, it will be because of you. And some of you, the way you treated me when I was on here, I will probably never want to meet you in person. Have a nice life at least for now I am tired of this.

You say "religion and politics" brings out the worst in people, but I can't even post anything about anything about anything that is going on in my life without any condemnation.

Seriously, I have no idea what some of you people can't just stop and think how you would want to be treated. You got what you wanted. I'm done for now. I need a long break from some of you.

 

[Cammalu]

I’m the only one that’s always right

 

[highdesertranger]

touché. highdesertranger

 

[TexasWoman]

There are a lot of dog lovers in this forum who probably became very reactive with the title of this post.

When people have strong feelings about dogs, they will probably express them.

Not saying anybody is wrong.

If one posts on a controversial topic, be prepared, that's all.

My 2 cents for what it is worth, which is less than 1 cent.

 

[AMGS3]

For what it's worth, I think one of the main takeaways I got from FirTree's comment is that without fully disclosing a dogs personal biting history to the new owner/organization you are not doing the dog or the eventual family any favors.

Also FWIW, one of the things that makes this forum so helpful to me is that there are members here willing to offer constructive criticism, not just people holding up my ideas as wonderful and not letting me know their applicable life experiences that might improve my situation. I do not simply want a friend to have a small talk chat with when I come here, I want to know what's worked for others trying to stay warm, trying to mentally downsize, figure out a cassette toilet tank for winter use, etc, etc.

I hope that you are not gone, because there's a lot of value in that constructive criticism, and the people willing to share their own life experiences (good and bad) with living on the road. Some of the easiest lessons in life are the ones we learn from watching the mistakes of others.

~angie

 

[RoamerRV428]

Adults. We get it ya know. No one on this site is a moron that can not figure out certain situations in their lives. No where in the post did the OP ask for any recommendations. Not like asking which is the best toilet to buy? How does one access BLM land? Best van to purchase? She simply stated her dog has issues and she is rehoming and getting help for her dog.

Way too many assumptions about JuliaAnne and her situation. And that is where it leads to unwelcome criticism of a post. Advice not asked for at all.

and this is why all people should not post such delicate info. at all on a public forum, we have to keep in mind to edit ourselves. Sad but true. Thing is it is a public post issue once it is posted. You can then receive any and all comments from others as they want to post so once you hit that send button, you put it out there for every comment imaginable to your post. ONE thing everyone has to remember. Unwelcome comments about a situation they truly have no true insight about what is happening yet they comment anyway.

How does one know she is not disclosing the temper of the dog lately?
How does one know who will get this dog, could be a dog trainer who accepts this dog?
How does one know ANYTHING about the nature of how she is going to handle this situation, she is not a stupid person in the least bit, and she is going to find the best suited situation for her dog.

Everyone assumes so darn much. Too much from a simple post of someone working on a situation in their life concerning their pet...ugh.
and that is how I SEE IT my opinion, everyone has one ya know, and everyone can post one also.

 

[Dingfelder]

Okay, this is a forum. Not a monologue, but a place for discussion, explicitly. That is the whole point. There is no way of getting around that. Any attempt to do so is both futile and deeply misguided.

And it also makes having a forum in the first place pointless.

Nobody gets to control the dialogue, except for the mods, and even that is almost always a terrible idea barring the rare case in which people start threatening each other, attacking each other racially, or otherwise creating an absolutely crazy atmosphere. That is not occurring. So criticism of people responding in an open forum -- and in this one particularly, and at this time -- is out of place, at best.

By all means, carry on.

EVERYBODY. Please do have an opinion, a story, an idea, and let us know about it.

Sometimes, people will disagree with you. They may tell you about it. Don't expect any different, and deal with it like an adult.

 

[WanderingRose]

A public forum is not a monologue, and that is an excellent point.

Anything posted is subject to some analysis and feedback, not all of which may be welcome, but such is the price paid for having a place to share.

You can’t control what others have to say, but you can take what feels accurate and relevant and leave the rest.

I do think it behooves us all to a) try not to jump to conclusions, and b) do our best to put forth compassion and kindness.

 

[ByeBye]

I don't respond favorably to unsolicited criticism/advice, especially when presented from an air of superiority. Facts, referring me to useful info, similar personal experiences and how you handled it are ALL welcomed if offered w/ intention of helping.

Don't really care if you think I'm an adult or not. Your thoughts don't hold any value w/ me but if you want to have dialogue, via a forum, w/ me then common courtesy will be the only ship we'll sail in.

Someone who is in one of those, imo, rise up out of the ashes scenarios, tells of having to part ways with their pet and this is how it goes. Sad day when humans can't get the same considerations animals do.

 

[wanderin.pat]

I saw the subject and decided to dive in.  

I am a very committed dog-lover.  

There were 3 or 4 posts related to the situation, and then pages of posts related to a "debate" about courtesy and jumping to conclusions.  

Frankly, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, firtree is absolutely right. Perhaps his delivery was a little dogmatic, but the facts are facts.   Local Animal Welfare enforcement officers can , will and often do , take a dog into custody if there has been any report of a bite or attack of a human , pet or livestock .  If their evaluation comes back "negative", the dog will be "euthanized". 

I have also had a dog that could not be let off a leash.  Where I was staying at the time was a rural area.  He got out and killed 6 of the neighbors chickens.  He eventually was shot dead by a neighboring rancher.   I got a ticket for having had a dog off of a leash.  The cop was actually cutting me some slack.  He could have cited me for worse. I ended up paying the rancher $200 for the chickens.  The cop suggested that I make sure to repay him. 

These events occurred in Colorado.  In the Apartment complex I used to live in, a friends dog bit another dog.  It was forced to endure an evaluation for 10 days.  Which my friend had to pay for.  

Now, the difference here is this:  I'm not going to tell you what to do.  Since some other person mentioned, "We're all adults here" ... (a statement I don't necessarily agree with) .  I would suggest that a dog with a history of biting other animals should only be given along with full-disclosure.  

In regard to the OP's first post, I too am saddened to hear of having to find another home for a dog.  I've been through it before, and it is very painful.  One of the 2 dogs I hit the road with about 2 years ago did not adjust to the change in lifestyle.  I spent a lot of time agonizing over what to do with him.  While staying on a friend's property, it turned out that he had a cancerous tumor on his leg.  The end result was having him put to sleep.   I still miss him. 
That was more than a year ago. 

Regards, 

WP

 

[WanderingRose]

This dog appears to have bitten people, from what I can glean from the original post.

Dangerous, for whatever reason, either way.

 

[Dean and Buster]

Why I travel with large dogs we sleep well in the van and trailer

 

[Cammalu]

I think it might be difficult to rehome a dog that bites


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