maki2 said:
It is pretty much impossible for most women to poop without releasing a small amout of urine during the event. Most especially true as you get older and it happens even if you pee seperately just before. Peeing first and keeping that liquid separate from the poop is an essential step that must be done to control odor if you are going to bag poop.
So this is why some women put a small amouint of scented cat litter in the bnotyom of the plastic bag each time they poop. That might make enough of a difference to help control the oder issue. An alternative is the cedar small animal bedding chips that are sold in tyhe pet aisle at plaves such as Fred Meyers, Walmart and latger grocery stores as well as pet stores. Those too woll absorb the liqiud and help keep odor down.
What happens in the composting toilets is a urine diverter directs the urine into its own contaier for disposal. The solids go into a bin where they are mixed with a material that absorbs moisture out of the feces.(a desicant). That desicant additive is what helps with odor control. Just bagging feces without a desicant is OK if you are going to be putting the bag into a dumpster every day ot two. But not suitable without the desicant if you are only doing an every week or two trip to a dumpster. If you are going to wait that long between disposal trips you need to use a desicant substance in each of the daily use poop bags.
I wouls suggest that if you are not around a place for frequent waste disposal that you use a 5 gallon bucket, a diverter that empties into a pee boytle to create a DIY composting toilet. There are project videos, articles and even kits for doing this. A good project for those on a small budget and it does not require a lot of handy person skills.
It's not really so different with guys, especially as time goes by. Everyone's valves get looser, not just one sex's. I mentioned that before in another thread and got some grief for it; oh well. So it goes, even here.
I have for a long time tried to pee first elsewhere only then poop in my bags. But the stinkification is catastrophic without kitty litter regardless. Even without liquid, even squeezing all the air out. But here is something I learned from my Master Gardener classes, take note - it is anaerobic, not aerobic decomposition that stinks the worst and produces the most toxic byproducts.
Folks with composting toilets, from what I have seen, vent their poop to the outside. Wood chips, kitty litter, whatever -- aeration matters. That's why they have mixing paddles and such-like, to keep aeration going.
What we baggers, who have no such ability to make sure aerobic decomposition doesn't turn into anaerobic decomposition, can do, is to eliminate moisture as much as possible so as to first control natural smells and second keep them from getting worse. And then get that poop the heck outta dodge so its odor doesn't permeate by dumping it ASAP.
In the meantime, control is the issue. I lay down a couple/few cups of kitty litter before I do my thing, and then a cup or two after. That helps dry things out so if I can't throw stuff out immediately, it might not be as cripplingly repulsive.
Surprisingly enough, it usually is disgusting if you do 90% plus of your job. Luckily enough, the last 10 percenters can usually make it work for at least a while. Just get better kitty litter, use it both on top and on the bottom of your poop, and try your damnedest to make pee something you do before and after, even if you feel like you're forcing it and on pins and needles while you wait, rather than during.
It may not always work. But that's what extra kitty litter is for, and double-bagging, and even trying things like odor-control bags and clumping kitty litter. I used to go dirt-cheap on that, but recently am finding the slightly more expensive-per-poop stuff is well worth the pennies. It can be a night and day difference, seriously.
