Cast Iron Pan Conditioner - should I or shouldn't I?

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In getting ready for full time vandwelling, I figured I should get my cast iron frying pans ready. I bought them last year (pre-seasoned), but being unfamiliar with how to use them, I quickly gave up on them. Then I realized how prized they are, and washed with SOS pads and warm, soapy water to strip them as best I could. Then I rubbed them with Canola oil, wiped off the excess, and baked them in the oven at home at 450&nbsp;Fahrenheit&nbsp; since I figured it's easier in a residential oven than when I'll be vandwelling. I repeated this 5 (yes 5) times!<br><br>Then I found this "Cast Iron Conditioner"&nbsp;http://www.basspro.com/Camp-Chef-Ca...itioner/product/10212996/&amp;hvarAID=vantage<br><br>Supposedly it won't go rancid (whereas cooking oils or lard will). I may not use my cast iron frying pans daily, so they may sit a while between uses. I would think that the heat from a propane stove would kill off any bacteria, especially since you're just supposed to wipe, or gently clean cast iron pans, rather than scrub with hot, soapy water. If I get this "cast iron conditioner" should I strip off the the 5 layers of canola oil seasoning I just did? Thank you in advance for your tips and advice!&nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" class="emoticon bbc_img">
 
I wouldn't waste your time or money on it. Folks have been "naturally" seasoning cast iron pans for decades, and I've never heard of anyone getting sick.

Mine have developed a nice dark patina over time, and nothing sticks to them. I just wipe them out.
 
After drying mine with a paper towel, it rub a drop of cooking oil on the inner surface.&nbsp; That's all you really need to do.
 
Down south we use our cast iron pans for almost everything. &nbsp;To "season" a new one, or one that's lost it's coating, we preheat, rub generously with oil, lard, etc, then put in the oven on 200-250 degrees overnight. &nbsp;Wipe out excess, perhaps repeat if needed. &nbsp;Never had an issue with oil/lard getting rancid that I'm aware of.
 
I knowed a old feller from georgy that put hisn in the campfire and left it till the fire went out.<br>He swore it got seasoned real good.<br>I never tried it; just thought I'd throw in this tid bit of info.
 
I'm with the rest on this. I am very familiar with your&nbsp;dilemma. I didn't think I'd use mine much but I use it all the time. I use lard or&nbsp;Crisco&nbsp;shortening on&nbsp;mine. Depends on what I have. I didn't use it much at first but never got sick from it either. I'd just use it as often as possible and keep seasoning it. The old way was good enough for folks back in the day and it's good enough for me.&nbsp;
 
<p>+1 on the Crisco that's what I use.&nbsp; think about it doesn't go bad in the pantry. I mean maybe after a year or two but you are going to use it so that won't be an issue.&nbsp; highdesertranger</p>
 
Sounds good! I won't bother with the "conditioner" then. Probably just a gimmick. Last year I bought two "Kitchen Aid" cast iron frying pans, a 10" and a 12" (made in China, I just found out). Like I said, I didn't know how to care for them or use them. But then I found out how to season them. So far, I've rubbed them with Canola oil, wiped off the excess and put them in the home oven for about 1 hour each time. Maybe I should have left them in overnight? I've heard multiple thin coats are best. And I guess using them continuously will build up the seasoning.<br><br>Somewhere in my parents basement, they have a set of 3 cast iron frying pans (well seasoned) from the 1970s, originally bought for camping. But we used them at home on a regular basis until the early to mid 1980s. I don't know why we stopped using them. They're probably good quality USA made pans. Maybe I'll sell my "Kitchen Aid" cast iron pans on Craigslist and take my parents' old cast iron pans. With any luck, they're made by Lodge. Or maybe I'll just buy new Lodge cast iron pans. I also want a cast iron Dutch oven and maybe an oval griddle. Then I think I will be all set with cookware.
 
Definitely buy Lodge and throw away or scrap the China ones. The ones made in China are contaminated with LEAD (google it). I currently have two 5 quart Dutch Ovens,2 quart bean pot,5" 8" 10" and a 12" Skillet,Combo Chicken Fryer. I use mine on a daily basis and all I do is wash with warm water,dry,and then wipe oil inside.
 
keep them with a light coat of oil to prevent any rust. If you are worried about rancidity, for long storage, use pharmacy mineral oil. This is ideal for wooden cutting boards and utensils also.<br><br>I like my antique cast iron as it is machined smooth. The modern stuff is left with the sand-cast finish. Hit the flea marts.
 
Thanks again! Yeah, I think I'll toss the new "made in China" cast iron pans into a metal recycling bin. If anything, I'll see if I can get the 3 1970s cast iron frying pans from my parents, since they haven't used them in years. I'm sure they're made in the USA. If not, I'll just get (brand new) a couple of frying pans, a Dutch oven and a griddle made by Lodge.<br><br>I'll keep the pharmacy grade mineral oil in mind for seasoning as well. It may not go rancid, but then again, it doesn't like the "seasoned" oil goes rancid as easily as cooking oil in liquid form.&nbsp;
 
I use Canola oil on mine and it works great. Just remember to put a light coat of oil on them after each and every use.
 
stay away from the china junk like joey said they are contaminated.&nbsp; btw they are #1 iron = about 10 bucks per 100 lbs.&nbsp; highdesertranger&nbsp;
 
I'm going to see my dad tomorrow and we'll dig through our old camping equipement. He sold a lot of it a while ago, but there might still be some goodies, including the set of 3 cast iron frying pans. I hope they're still there. If not, I'll buy brand new Lodge frying pans, but I'd love to save some money right now. There might be an aluminum Dutch oven which I can have for free if it's there, but I'd rather have cast iron. I'll see what I can find there tomorrow.
 
Yesterday I got the old cast iron frying pans from my dad. One is a Lodge, the other two are off-brands, one stamped "Made in Japan". They were all purchased in the mid 1970s. I think I'll keep the smaller Lodge pan. I went to Bass Pro and bought a set with a large frying pan, round griddle, a 5 quart Dutch oven (and the lid fits the frying pan too). <br><br>They were out of stock on the "Cast Iron Conditioner" but I did some more looking online and came across a review on Amazon where someone stated the ingredients:<br><br><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">
The ingredients listed, in order, are: Organic Palm Oil, Organic Coconut Oil, Organic Sunflower Seed Oil, Vitamin E, Citric Acid
<br><br>So, nothing too exotic. I have coconut oil already. I could buy palm oil and sunflower oil. Or just use any one of those oils. I don't have citric acid or Vitamin E on hand. And I read in some of those reviews that the conditioner needs to be heated or it comes out almost solid (probably due to the coconut oil). So, probably not worth going out of your way to get. I've heard flaxseed oil (which needs to be refrigerated) is one of the best oils to use for conditioning cast iron. Maybe I'll go get some of that. Otherwise I still have some Canola oil. I want to season my new (pre-seasoned but still gray) Lodge cookware, and re-season the old Lodge frying pan.</span>
 
I have always used bacon to season my pans initially....rub them down with strips of bacon and do the oven thing. I use crisco for follow up conditioning because it is easy to have on hand in the van. I have also used bear grease.
 
Please stop using all palm oils. The palm oil plantation industry is destroying our planet and ruining the lives of many native populations. I lost 20 pounds (220 to 200) in 7 months just by eliminating palm oils from my diet.<br><br>No special stuff is needed to season cast iron. clean well, remove all rust, coat with crisco or other fat, heat in the oven (I use the cleaning cycle). wipe down and coat with oil or other fat when finished cooking.
 
<p>I won't talk about lead in the pans, but do a little chemical research about melting points of lead vs. iron and once you learn the chemistry you probably won't worry about that. &nbsp;<br><br></p><p>I bought three of the cheap china pans at Harbor Freight on a lark. &nbsp;When I bought them they were rough and clearly not well made. &nbsp;But after three years of using them, they (or the one I&nbsp;actually&nbsp;use a lot) are my favorite. &nbsp;Also they work on an induction cook top. &nbsp;I just use it and use a good bit of oil. &nbsp;When I got them I got on a bacon frying kick too in part for the express purpose of seasoning them. &nbsp;I can't imagine buying a "conditioner". &nbsp;The key is to use them and use a lot of oil/fat/lard, especially when you first get them. &nbsp;I also do not wash them. &nbsp;If it is something messy, I scrape it out real good and wipe it out with a paper towel. &nbsp;At this point nothing sticks to the pan that the back side of a spatula won't get off. I don't like using water or salt or anything that will let the oil seasoning leave the pan or let the iron rust. &nbsp;As to not washing them and germs and such, I use them at a temperature that is well above anything needed to kill any germs, just like grandma did.</p>
 
Zil said:
Please stop using all palm oils. The palm oil plantation industry is destroying our planet and ruining the lives of many native populations. I lost 20 pounds (220 to 200) in 7 months just by eliminating palm oils from my diet.<br><br>No special stuff is needed to season cast iron. clean well, remove all rust, coat with crisco or other fat, heat in the oven (I use the cleaning cycle). wipe down and coat with oil or other fat when finished cooking.
<br><br>(I wasn't going to go here, but since this thread has taken a political turn, here we go)<br><br>Well... I personally will NOT use any animal products. I've been pretty careful not to touch on that as everyone has been recommending using bacon, lard or other animal fat. It's a dilemma either way - do we use palm oil and support the political and environmental impacts of palm oils? Or do we use animal products and support the raising and killing of animals in cruel conditions? Not to mention the environmental impact livestock farming has on the environment or the health conditions that can develop from consuming animal products. Thirteen years ago, I stopped eating meat, fish and chicken and have never felt better! My health has improved immeasurably, excellent colesterol levels, skin, etc. And coconut oil is a very healthy oil to use, contrary to what you may have heard in years past. I make sure to buy only "fair trade" coconut oil, even if it costs a bit more. I also use cold pressed virgin olive oil - arguably another healthy oil, but I'm sure it will ruffle someone's feathers for one reason or another.<br><br>In any case, this thread wasn't meant to become a hot political debate on boycotting palm oils or animal products. Let's try to keep it neutral. I think we've determined that a "Cast Iron Conditioner" is really not necessary. To each their own. Everyone has their preferred way (and oil) to season their cast iron pans with. None of which are perfect, and sure to offend someone, no matter which method is chosen. I just bought some flax seed oil (must be refrigerated). I hear that works well for seasoning cast iron pans.<br><br>
wandering mike said:
<p>I won't talk about lead in the pans, but do a little chemical research about melting points of lead vs. iron and once you learn the chemistry you probably won't worry about that. &nbsp;... As to not washing them and germs and such, I use them at a temperature that is well above anything needed to kill any germs, just like grandma did.</p>
<br><br>Now I've got too many cast iron pans! (Including my newly purchased and hand-me-down Lodge cast iron stuff - An American classic) I like my Lodge cast iron cookware. It all matches (not that important, but a nice touch) and it's an All-American product, which is a rarity these days. Almost gives me a nostalgic feel as I use something so - dare I say... crude? Something our great grand parents could have used. My brand new 8" Lodge cast iron pan is IDENTICAL to the 8" Lodge cast iron pan my father bought in the mid-1970s (except that it's better seasoned due to all the use its had). But it's the same shape, everything. I don't know about the melting points of lead vs iron, but it seems that just about anything we use can have some sort of negative consequences. I think Lodge cast iron cookware is pretty good. Maybe not perfect, but I'll try not to think about it, or I won't enjoy the food I eat, lol! And as for the potential germs or bacteria, etc, I agree. I think that at the temperature the pans get to while cooking will kill off any harmful germs, bacteria, etc.
 
Please dont go here. Just please dont.

If I would have I intercepted the palm oil post, ya's woulda yammered on me for days about what a censorish beast I am. So sometimes when a post seems to be going down a bumpy road, I ignore it and hope everyone else will too.

I know its hard. The things we believe in are important to us.

But lets try to stick with discussion that promotes the goals of this forum. Resolving political quandaries is not one of them.

Thanks!
 
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