Bury a tire to get out

[4RunnerBlues]

I’ve read about burying a tire to pull a stuck vehicle out when there’s no fixed object to pull from. Has anyone here actually done that?


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[highdesertranger]

came close a couple of times but no. boy you are talking a lot of work. it has to be done right or you will pull the tire right out of the hole and you will still be stuck. you need a winch with this. people say you can us a come along. people who say that have obviously never used a come along highdesertranger

 

[4RunnerBlues]

I can’t fathom how much work it would be. What is the correct way to do it?


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[bullfrog]

You actually dig a slanted trench 90 degrees to the direction of pull and a small ramp type trench for the cable so it doesn't try to pull the tire up and out of the trench but through the wall of the trench which is at least 3 or 4 foot deep. There is a heavy tarp with straps sewn into the corners (two short straps and two long ones) that can be buried into a 3 foot hole 6 feet in diameter that works better according to the people selling them. Both of these require a wench. A trick in the middle east is to fill a heavy canvas sack (duffle bag size) and loop a tow strap around the middle of it and bury it in trench with a ramp for the strap then make a loop in the other end of the strap placed around the spinning drive wheels (two may be required for an open differential) and feed the straps onto the tires(after deflating them some to center the strap) so the car pulls itself out. Digging a trench or hole that big takes hours for one person. On light weight vehicles (less than 2,000 lbs) that haven't dug in to the axle I have used cable come-a-longs (it takes two to keep enough tension on the chains while leap frogging pulls) and High Lift makes a wench setup which I bought for my 60" jack but they work better for stretching fence than extracting a vehicle. Pull Pals sometimes work but getting them at the right angle to dig in is sometimes difficult. Don't forget you have to unbury or remove these things when you are done as well.

 

[MrNoodly]

The way I see it, using a buried tire to get out is one of those things where if you don't already know how to do it you should stay away from places you might end up needing it, or you go with someone who does know and who can teach you.

 

[bullfrog]

I'm happy to tell how but a shovel doesn't fit my hand very well now a days!!! Having friends with wreckers that will go off road, priceless!!!

 

[highdesertranger]

LOL from Merriam-Webster


wench noun

Definition of wench (Entry 1 of 2)

1a : a young woman : girl

b : a female servant

2 : a lewd woman : prostitute

I think the word we are looing for is winch

winch noun

Definition of winch (Entry 1 of 2)

1 : any of various machines or instruments for hauling or pulling
especially : a powerful machine with one or more drums on which to coil a rope, cable, or chain for hauling or hoisting : windlass

2 : a crank with a handle for giving motion to a machine (such as a grindstone)

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[66788]

Give me a wench over a winch any day! Yar!

 

[bullfrog]

Got me !!! Now if you will define looing I'll feel plum educated!!! LOL!!! You have to watch me with brake and break also, now a days I take more breaks than I do brakes!!!

 

[Ticklebellly]

Yeah, I have done it. Following a review of the experience, I bought a hank of 10mm Dynema, 40 metres long. I don't ever want to do the work required to bury the spare wheel, ever again.

 

[4RunnerBlues]

Yeah, I have done it. Following a review of the experience, I bought a hank of 10mm Dynema, 40 metres long. I don't ever want to do the work required to bury the spare wheel, ever again.

What is dynema?


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[B and C]

It's a high strength rope.

I carry a couple of 3" tow straps 30' long. Only needed one once to get pulled out here at the house.

 

[JD GUMBEE]

My 4X4-nut-friends all say the same thing.

1. "Stretchie" winch lines kill people.

2. A normal boat anchor can be your best friend in a desert situation, along with an army shovel or other digging tool. Use chain to adhere to it, NOT rope. It sinks as you put more weight against it as long as you use it right...which becomes apparent as soon as you try it.

3. I second, third and fourth HDR's statement about a come-along. SCREW THAT.
My car trailer has a 9,000# winch on it. Never regretted the battery, winch..or the added weight. It has ended up bringing several out of the Quartzsite doldrums...and even one @ the slabs.

I can hit the remote and make the stuck truck help with light throttle application when using a winch. Rarely do you end up needing the winch for more than a few feet before the stuck unit takes over itself.
Cannot do that with a back/shoulder killing cheap ass come-along.
All the "4X4" units seem made too wimpy for repeated use anyway.


Most people try one time too many when they get stuck.
Once you start digging holes, the faster you exit the drivers seat and resort to a shovel, the easier on your truck and usually...the quicker you get yourself out.

 

[tx2sturgis]

You guys are lightweights. 

Wait till you have to dig out a loaded semi with it's drive axles buried in the mud, or the snow, or muddy snow, and only using a shovel.

 

[JD GUMBEE]

Your post timestamp was planned, wasn't it?
Tell the truth now.

 

[Pleasant Travels]

The ideal tool for anchoring your winch line when there are no trees or boulders is a "land anchor", often called a "sand anchor" as well.

These come in very handy in sandy areas like beaches and dunes, but also dry washes (which is where I have had to use one). These things are designed with a particularly angled plow blade that, as it is dragged along, just digs deeper into the soil/sand. The ones made of aluminum work fine in soft dune or beach sand,...but trying to use in rocky sand like found in dry Arizona washes will just get it bent all to hell. Steel is the way to go.

Yes, they are a somewhat bulky and heavy item to always haul around with you, especially if you only use it once or never. But when you're stuck miles from anyone with no help and no cell service,...you will be happy you put up dragging it around with you.

 

[highdesertranger]

those sand anchors are a 2 person tool unless you have a remote controlled winch. also the person setting the anchor is in the kill zone if anything happens to the cable.

I can't remember seeing anybody posting the glaringly obvious,

always travel the back country with another vehicle. the buddy system works better then all this stuff, and has advantages beyond the getting stuck scenario. another vehicle is the perfect tie off point for a winch and if a winch is not available then a snatch strap should be carried. actually a snatch strap should be carried no matter what.

if I missed some posting this I am sorry.

highdesertranger

 

[Ticklebellly]

What is dynema?

Dynema is often called Smart Rope.    High tech winch rope in my case.   Google Amsteel Blue for a complete education around the brand name.   Braided fibres used extensively as fishing line.    Stronger than steel.    Simple to splice.    Cheaper than Kevelar.   Very light.   Stretches less than 1 % under full rated tension and falls on the ground if it breaks that is, it does not whip around when it breaks.   That characteristic is important in a safety sense when compared to wire rope used on winches.   No need to wear gloves to protect against broken wire rope strands.   Did I mention that it is very light?

 

[highdesertranger]

the main draw back of synthetic winch cable is this,

if your cable is static to the ground synthetic rope works great.
if your cable is active to the ground synthetic rope is a no, no.

for this reason I cannot use synthetic rope.

highdesertranger

 

[maki2]

Dynema is often called Smart Rope.    High tech winch rope in my case.   Google Amsteel Blue for a complete education around the brand name.   Braided fibres used extensively as fishing line.    Stronger than steel.    Simple to splice.    Cheaper than Kevelar.   Very light.   Stretches less than 1 % under full rated tension and falls on the ground if it breaks that is, it does not whip around when it breaks.   That characteristic is important in a safety sense when compared to wire rope used on winches.   No need to wear gloves to protect against broken wire rope strands.   Did I mention that it is very light?

good stuff, I buy it at the West Marine store in my neighborhood. I travel with a long length of it. It comes in handy for a variety of things from tethering an awning to making a temporary clothes line as well as rescue.