back road camping

[mockturtle]

A lot of things are legal but unacceptable.

 

[Canine]

MK7, you are making almost zero sense to me. I'm going to let you have the last say on this one.

 

[MK7]

MK7, you are making almost zero sense to me. I'm going to let you have the last say on this one.

sounds more like you don't have further arguments and wanted the last say.

 

[SoulRaven]

Two wrongs NEVER make a right! Bob was clearly in the wrong and should be very thankful that he didn't have to answer for it.

There were several acceptable routes here, and he chose none of them.

A) He could have moved and/or chosen whether to report them.

B) He could have gone down there peacefully and explained his point of view in a calm manner.

C) He could have done nothing and let them enjoy their outing and leave.

And then Bob goes on to say "I did no harm to the location by being there.", If you were there longer than a day or two, YES YOU DID!!! You killed what was under your tent and under your van! Not to mention how many of those same wildflowers he drove over getting there. What ever happened to LEAVE NO TRACE?

I was taught that you never park or pitch a tent over any vegetation. That used to be in the rules and regulations for wilderness camping... Has that changed?

 

[Silver]

"I was infuriated!!! As mad as I can ever remember being!
I went down there and screamed at them for 10 minutes."

When you get Angry, a demon possesses you. You lose IQ points. You go into Cave-man mentality.
Take deep breaths.

Some 1 screaming in public for 10 minutes seems like disturbing the peace to me.
I would call the authorities.

Yea it sux if some 1 gets to close to U.
I'm not goin to scream about it.

Tuesday, March 1, 2016
Anger Management
http://healthyfoodandexercises.blogspot.com/

 

[Gofar]

thanks for all the helpful info, I thought it would be ok. nala and I have been doing a lot of backpack camping up here in the  northeast the last few summers, and have never had any problem when we went out for day hikes. we both love being outdoors and  taking the road less traveled. though I have learned that I am getting to old to be sleeping on the ground in a tent. a van or trailer will seem like a 4 star hotel to us.

My wife and I hike also, and we went from tents to hammocks and tarps. Much more comfortable. Air dwellers vs. ground dwellers. And I'll bet I'm older than you!

 

[KMAG YOYO]

A funnier story, a couple weekends ago, we were camped at the spot in the photo below:

Being as we were at a prime vista spot, we didn't really mind when others stopped throughout the day to enjoy the view. It was only when I tried to shower behind my van, that I had to warn one lady she might get a view she didn't expect!

I can top AKRVBOB's story, and I know how he felt. I stayed at a gorgeous hilltop spot in Big Sur, one of my favorites. Pacific Ocean at my feet and mountains behind me. There were campers around me but they were pretty well dispersed. Sometime around dinner, the "music" started, and it became the site of an all night rave. Through the wee hours of the morning, kids on all sorts of drugs wandered into my campsite and set my dog barking. Nothing I could do, so I left just before sunrise, without a wink of sleep. Found another site not too far away that was much more private, although it lacked the view.

I've found that "locals" can be a problem when boondocking. At another nice spot in Big Sur, we were harassed for the entire weekend by people who lived in a grandfathered development within the forest boundary. They mostly had a problem with a couple who were camped next to us long-term. One of the locals made a real pest of himself and even threatened my 3 year-old son, I was ready to stab him but fortunately my wife talked me out of it. Needless to say, we don't look back fondly on that trip.

 

[buckwilk]

I am a boondocker so I think that legal or not it is about respect and courtesy.   Parked on a bluff in Ehrenberg I had the same experience and in Cottonwood too.  They came right up the hill I was camping on.  Common Sense says to stay away, at a good distance from anybody's campsite.  In this 'life', although no 'rule book'....their are rules of behavior.  After awhile everyone learns them.

A big difference between someone who is on Public Land for a four day weekend and someone who is in a campsite for many, many days.  When we find a spot it has to fulfill lots of expectations.  The ability to urinate outside.   Use a poop bucket outside or a cat hole in privacy.  The dog has to be able to lay around the site safely.  Good view...campfire pit for burning paper.  Cell coverage, etc...  AND away from ATV dust and noise.  When this happened to me in Cottonwood, I simply told them to turn around and they did.   Some people know how to be respectful and some don't.  I never hesitate to speak to the invaders, thinking they just don't know.....or have common sense.

One thing you need to remember, you're on public land. You may think it is your home but it's still public land. You have no more rights than the weekend folks. Invaders? You stake off a section of public land and demand no one come near you, whose the invader?

 

[highdesertranger]

going into somebody's camp is defiantly a no no. but if you are on public land you must expect the public. just as long as they are not doing anything illegal I don't have a problem with them being there. if they are a problem, move. highdesertranger

 

[Sameer]

' Common Sense says to stay away, at a good distance from anybody's campsite. In this 'life', although no 'rule book'....their are rules of behavior. After awhile everyone learns them........'
This isn't as dramatic as some would like it to be.....!
I don't wander into anybody's campsite as a matter of courtesy.....I expect the same courtesy....
Anyone who lives on the land rarely has this problem...and it seems to be in areas where a lot of weekenders go. Everyone learns after awhile!

 

[sephson]

When I'm out camped wherever, if there are any other campers reasonably close to my camp, I like to introduce myself. This usually consists of something on the lines of a "Hi! I'm C.W. I'm camped over there and just thought I should introduce myself since we're temporary neighbors." I only do this if I actually see someone in the camp and I always try to be respectful and mindful that I'm a guest in their camp while I'm there. Sometimes the other campers don't feel like being sociable and our interaction doesn't extend beyond the initial introduction. That's fine, I understand and won't be insulted. More often than not though, this leads to some interesting conversations, maybe a shared meal or drink, or occasionally an invitation to join them in whatever it is they're there to do.

 

[Raven+Squid]

Leaving a tarp up along with chairs and a small table setup, should keep the few morons that would have the courage to poke around through somebodies stuff at a camp.

I think its too far out the sticks with too much risk to begin with. There are alot of people concealed carry and open carry for that matter and most petty criminals understand who and where people are most likely to have that defensive weapon.

 

[USExplorer]

When I was a kid I grew up near a patch of county and state owned land backing a suburban development that had no enforcement of any ordinances. Anything went back there: dumping, wild parties, shooting, fireworks, off-roading. We used to regularly go into the woods, explore, poke around in camps, and yes, trash them on occasion. Our justification was that the campers were breaking the law, and that we were giving them a warning.

So it is good to be aware that if you are camped near civilization, that kids or others without good sense could wreak havoc on any items left unattended, for the same reason that abandoned houses always get their windows smashed.