Anyone go through what I'm going through now?

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We've been socially indoctrinated our whole lives with "this is how you're supposed to do it". Hard to not internalize something that is around you from the beginning so when we, I, start to do it differently I have a conflict of old values (which I did not choose) vs new values which I am mindfully choosing to enhance my life experience. And in that resolution of conflicting thought patterns is some pain, doubt, grief even though our intuitive self KNOWS we are pointed in the right direction. It's a process that ebbs and flows for me. I've had this false ego built around what I thought I was supposed to be, even if done reluctantly. As that part of the egoic self dies/morphs/changes there are some death throes and I find myself sensitive to other seeing me as "less than good enough". Even tho I know it's a lie I have to proactively say "NO!" to those thoughts and fill my world w/ what empowers me.

I "retired" early (not really I just quit working like a slave) so I tell people a version of my reality they don't have to struggle with.
I'm retired, not homeless, I'm houseless for all practical purposes but maintain a legal residence. I'm choosing to exploring certain parts of the country via a long term travel adventure which will incorporate a LOT of wilderness camping and exploration.

To be honest I'm in a very similar situation, just getting prepared which is really gather stuff I think I'll need, although I really stopped that as I was gathering too much, and getting shed of meaningless clutter. In about 3 weeks my current living arrangements will end and I'll be making my maiden voyage. My rig will be FAR from anything close to 'done' but, like you, I'm a survivor and a great McGyver type person so I'm going to load up w/ very basic necessities and tools, join the caravans/van builds in November and create a thriving reality for myself.

Tbh, there are times when I'm scared to death of it and wants to run but part of me knows that's a good sign.
Courage is mindfully acting in spite of the fear, imo. 

I was watching a YT vid last night and it showed a time lapse shot of all the stars in the night time desert sky. The biggest grin automatically broke out on my face as I said to myself "Soon, that will be mine, too!"

I applaud your externalizing your thoughts here and setting those boundaries. Although most mean well there's always some that want to offer unsolicited criticisms.
 
RoamerRV428 said:
ahh, you are good to go, just remember to focus on what makes ya happy and leave the junk by the wayside and don't give junk another thought :)

rock on JuliaAnne, you got this!

Thanks, Roamer. I am ok. Just didn't want to step on the toes of anyone I know in the process and raise my personal debt ceiling even more, which is kind of what happened because of the sudden income drop. My road to actual freedom is going to be a long one.

And, well, right now, I'm trying to find humor in the fact that maybe instead of getting my bed frame into the shack before it rains…that maybe instead my dog and me were due for a hair washing.

All I needed was one more hour of dry weather to move the frame into the shack argh. But at least my head and my dog's fur got a good rinsing.

I really hope to sleep on the bed tonight - easier on the back and neck - but at least I had a dry place (my car) to crash last night. (Glad I have extra pieces of waterproof insulation to protect my frame too!)

I also forgot that my clothes and blankets were sitting outside the shack so I could make room for the bed frame (which will later go on a trailer). So had to/have to dry everything.

I am glad I don't live in Seattle. LOL

I was prepared for complications on the road, but I was not at all prepared for all these complications during this transition. At least I found out the two extension cords reach either the shack or the car from my uncle's basement. So I ran my electric heater instead of Mr. Heater last night.

I sure hope I can get this all together before the end of October. By thanksgiving, it's usually freezing cold around here. And moving south or west is not an option right now for various reasons.




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MaTaLa said:
We've been socially indoctrinated our whole lives with "this is how you're supposed to do it". Hard to not internalize something that is around you from the beginning so when we, I, start to do it differently I have a conflict of old values… I find myself sensitive to other seeing me as "less than good enough". Even tho I know it's a lie I have to proactively say "NO!" to those thoughts and fill my world w/ what empowers me...

I "retired" early (not really I just quit working like a slave)…

To be honest I'm in a very similar situation, just getting prepared which is really gather stuff I think I'll need, although I really stopped that as I was gathering too much, and getting shed of meaningless clutter. In about 3 weeks my current living arrangements will end…

Tbh, there are times when I'm scared to death of it and wants to run but part of me knows that's a good sign.
Courage is mindfully acting in spite of the fear, imo... Although most mean well there's always some that want to offer unsolicited criticisms.

I was writing at the same time you posted this, but now want to respond. I trimmed your quote the best I could but glad you posted this. It is similar to what I'm dealing with. My goal is to be not dependent on anyone for power needs by the end of October. I also hope to have my trailer and hitch by then too. My plans are already delayed by about two weeks so hopefully.

I'm hoping by then I will also have decided what to keep/throw away. Ironically, I got rid of so much stuff already I now wish there were things I woulda kept. Like a snow showel and a few more containers with lids.

At first, before the income loss, I woulda had plenty of time to get out of my apartment. But then, for financial problems occurring not til two weeks after giving my landlord a notice, thinking fast became necessary.

As far as moving west, don't have funds for the transportation for that. I don't even have my own vehicle yet.

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I note that Bob Wells is trying to set up some program where people help or mentor people living close to them. Maybe there's someone here who can provide you some physical help getting ready, although on the other hand it can be dangerous asking for help from strangers. Stay safe.

I guess, for me, the waiting to get started is the hardest, most depressing part, and I think that once you're set up and on the road you will feel better.
 
Thanks, Andi. I actually was going to put up a new post to seek out people who will be staying near me during the winter.

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Put another way, it is not possible to control how people respond to you here, except for egregious forum rule violations.

Just ignore those posts and posters that are displeasing to you.
 
Dingfelder said:
It's a rare person who cannot be shamed, and perhaps not a fortunate or admirable one.  Shame is real and worth listening to, but not necessarily either friend or enemy.

The second sentence here could create some very interesting dialog, in person though as in a group sitting around the campfire. It could be done on a forum, but clumsily in comparison. The first sentence is rooted in giving a pig's ass what folks think or say about me.
 
rm.w/aview said:
The second sentence here could create some very interesting dialog, in person though as in a group sitting around the campfire. It could be done on a forum, but clumsily in comparison. The first sentence is rooted in giving a pig's ass what folks think or say about me.
This one I don't have a problem with. It's just a general philosophical statement not directed specifically at me. What I can't stand is when people try to play therapist. And may have mentioned some things I was going through but not because I was looking for therapy. It was simply what I was going through at any given time and nothing that required any overanalyzation. And, if I confront anyone in a PM, it's because I don't feel it is always appropriate to do so in a group message.

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JuliaAnne2018 said:
 And may have mentioned some things I was going through but not because I was looking for therapy. It was simply what I was going through at any given time and nothing that required any overanalyzation. And, if I confront anyone in a PM, it's because I don't feel it is always appropriate to do so in a group message.

Sounds very civil & straightforward, a welcome addition to many a campfire :)
 
All you needed was one more hour of dry weather and you would have been in a better place.....but as usual the universe messed with ya and threw rain at you!

I think you are working well thru the transition. Best one can do is learn, change up some stuff and go with the flow of it all. In the end all will be set as you want and all will fall into place.


I do agree with JuliaAnne that any PM conversation should just be left there, not out here on the forum. Absolutely no need for anyone to be confrontational with her at all, sometimes you have to just drop something and forget about it and leave it the heck alone and settle it in private :)
 
I don't want to fight with anyone. And I'm the one who felt the need to confront people but in private not public. Anyway, I thought things were going to get better, but now, I might have to get rid of my dog who is the one who I bought all these materials to build this house for anyway. She gets me into too much trouble. Now, some nosy neighbor of my uncle's is complaining that I apparently am "forcing a dog to live in a car." We slept in there last night. Because I wasn't done cleaning out the shack and it was raining. To make matters worse, my uncle told the police I don't live there and am just visiting, so now if I talk to the police, I can't even tell them I live here. I didn't want anyone to know the dog and me were staying outside because I knew this could happen. I could get her taken away. If I would have known it was going to lead to this, I could have saved myself a LOT of money and just moved out the end of June when my S.O. was hospitalized, instead of waiting til I ran up a bunch more bills all because of this dog I can't keep anyway. My uncle never wanted her here that's why.

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JuliaAnne2018 said:
A couple of months ago, before I left my apartment to go on this adventure, it seemed like a good idea for me to do this.
I already made the decision, so I am going with it. I can't even seem to put into words how I feel right now. 

How's the day treating you?
 
a nosy neighbor called the cops? oh my. insanity if ya ask me.
it is always others that ruin it so fast sometimes.

just lay low. keep your pet and keep getting the shack ready for you to live in thru winter. Hopefully everything will quiet down and all will settle for you. So sorry of the hard times! What doesn't ruin us makes us stronger!
 
Thanks, rm.w and Roamer. I couldn't respond yesterday because I had to prepare the shack fast. There was a freeze warning. Not as bad as I expected because I thought at first they said temp would be in 20s not 30s (when I first heard on Wed.). But there was a freeze advisory for 1am til 9am today. I checked records though. It never ended up freezing last night, but they pedicted 32 degrees. We haven't even got our 1st frost yet as far as I know. I didn't stay outside last time it was down to 35 though. Animal control cop didn't come back around yet, but if they do, at least I got permission to take the dog into my uncle's basement. I'm hoping they won't give me too hard of a time when they see I got 2 heaters, at least four thick blankets, one of which is wool. And some of my already built insulated sections surrounding the outside, and I used some with the hinged doors I put on yesterday.

A bit of a draft but still warm enough - not much different than in my apartment when lying on the floor watching TV.

(This place had walls already. I had to cover some gap not including the one I left for ventilation.)

I might build a roof extension in case I get stuck here all winter so I don't get completely snowed in. :) Or in case I need a place to come back to if I do manage to get all this together in time.



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Amazing what a country. Fine for humans to be forced to risk freezing to death, hundreds die every year from that.

But government has the resources to protect their dogs from the same fate.
 
....2, I highly recommend an author, jed McKenna, if you really want to get real with your "lost, lonely, depressed, etc.,"  problems. This entire universe is yours to do with what you  please. Would you  have it any other way, ultimately?  

Lastly, if you ever want self respect, completely give up needing it from others.

If you  want to talk, rich, 760 681 4926
 
Hi. I'm new to this forum. I guess I'm a little confused. I see so much negative stuff in other places, and am a little sad to see it here.
 
phyllisindallas said:
Hi. I'm new to this forum. I guess I'm a little confused. I see so much negative stuff in other places, and am a little sad to see it here.

I have to agree, and a lot.

Trying to control how people respond in a forum is a fool's errand a difficult thing, and misses by miles the whole point of it being a forum in the first place.
 
Dingfelder said:
I have to agree, and a lot.

Trying to control how people respond in a forum is a fool's errand a difficult thing, and misses by miles the whole point of it being a forum in the first place.
Thanks, Ding.
 
I've deleted the bickering. I'm going to review more of the thread and may delete more posts.

Carry on (without bickering)
 
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