Thanks for the luvabulloo video, my problem was my hands and popping the whole top off, my loo my have fit extra tight as I used 3 liners. I would set up three liners so I could just pull one out and have the next one ready... I currently use a utility pail, It is a few inches taller than a 5 gallon bucket, it's lined with a construction black heavy duty plastic bag, then I placed oh at least 20 lbs of "equine pelleted bedding" in the liner, then used three more lighter liners and place 1 cup of pelleted bedding in each liner, the top has a "kiddy noodle" cut to fit the rim so I don't have to sit on the rim and it is so easy to pop off and take away the offending discard. I'll do a video when I can but finding wifi here in the mountains of PA, is difficult and usually wait till I can get to a library....