Thank you all for your information and patience. I realize that trying to teach a novice about cars is difficult. I'm trying to cram a life time of information in a small amount of time. I haven't driven a van in at least 20 years and the new and long beds are quite intimidating. I had a short bed Chevy and loved it. I sat up high and could drive it like a truck driver. (almost) I did get good enough I could parallel park lol.<br><br>I did find this van.... I have emailed the seller and will drive the miles to look at it. It's smaller, so I am gona try this first. I have also located some other vans, longer wheel base, that I will try if it goes that way. <br><br>http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ingId=345841475&listingIndex=57&Log=0<br><br>The pictures look fair, the mileage too. So I have some hope. <br>Getting the van now will help me get my junk to the flea markets to off the rest of it. <br><br>Willy, if your there. Craigslist has been a God send. I have sold over $6,500. worth of junk. This has not even dented what I have in this house. Thank you for your encouragement and the push to get me started. I owe you a hot cup of coffee and a good steak dinner.<br><br>Spirtuallife. Wow. Turn to the right, turn to the left and listen for clicking. CV joints. Good information.<br><br>RUST: When I saw the van with all the rust bubbles and over painting on it. I knew it went through sandy. I have seen older cars that had a little ding or spot of rust but this van was unbelievable. <br><br>Willy, so 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 ton has nothing to do with the length of the vehicle/wheel base. It is all to do with the mechanics under the van? Better suspension, better brakes, etc. Okay. I get it. With your explanation it sounds logical. As far as mileage. I figure if I get 18 to 20 on the highway it's a gift. <br><br>My pile of supplies for camping is growing. Will I really be taking on that much weight? The things I figure that will be the heaviest will be the water containers. I want more than enough so that Luci and I will not dehydrate in the desert. I am gona boon dock for sure. YAHOOO!<br><br>Today I rested. Looking at all the vans and all the chit chat questions wore me out. Tomorrow I start over again. I have racked my brain but there is zero on the find a mechanically inclined person to go with me. Since most of the vans I will be looking at are out of state now, I'll have no idea where I could take it to get a look at on it. <br><br>I will succeed! I'm saying lots of prayers and learning as much as this ole brain can consume.<br><br>Thank you all again<br><br><br>