Supreme Court blocks prosecuting homeless

[crofter]

More on Salem ban. "It's like squeezing a tube of toothpaste" does not sound like respect of human beings.   ~crofter
https://www.statesmanjournal.com/vi...owntown-homeless-camp-cleaned-out/2692066001/

 

[Qxxx]

Yeah, right at the start of winter.

 

[WanderingRose]

Designated and administered areas may sound 3rd world, but seems like a better solution than just letting them live under bridges and throwing their poop in the bushes, or running them out of town on a rail. Even van dwellers on city streets are probably tossing their poop in the bushes or into trashcans and letting their grey water run down the streets.

I agree, I just don’t think it will happen.

I don’t know the answer, but it is a growing problem.

 

[Elbear1]

Few are really living in a van by choice. You may have options but youre in a van for a reason.

 

[crofter]

...Even van dwellers on city streets are probably tossing their poop in the bushes or into trashcans and letting their grey water run down the streets.

No we're not. One purpose of a gym membership is that they take care of all that for $10 per month. Plus a workout. Many are open 24 hours if you don't want to be in there at 5pm with everyone else.   ~crofter

 

[Qxxx]

"we" ??? Is everyone else as enlightened as you are, crofter?

 

[bullfrog]

I saw a few politicians are starting to try to deal with poverty some by offering $1,000 a month to help with the cost of living, maybe people are starting to realize the problems caused by poverty are beginning to cost more to cure than prevent.

 

[Elbear1]

Every problem we face can be solved without spending a dime. let people use land free of charge.

 

[maki2]

I do wish there were more viable options for housing and shelter. There are currently a great many people living in various tents and tarp shelters along the railroad tracks nearby. Unfortunately not all of them are honest citizens.
These hobo camps are now more abundant as the number of official city run homeless encampment areas that were nearby has decreased because the city needed that land back to use as staging areas for the machines and supplies for some major road improvement projects. Those shelter closures were specicaly areaes that provided a place to legally camp in tents, RVs and some tins houses and have access to portable toilets and some cooking facilities and fresh water has pushed them out onto the railroad land to do rough camping. So the persons who do not want to be in the dorm style shelters that are only open at night are the people who are now camping along the railroad. The city regularly pushes them off the sidewalk areas in the industrial business areas where they often have put up their tents. Of course the locations under bridges have been well occupied at times.

Usually the railroad runs them off the land but that has not happened recently. So for now crime is way up in my immediate location and I have had my trailer broken into, my friend had his van broken into, they are going around looking for easy access to grab anything they can convert into quick cash or do a trade with. The big multi-day storm this week that is dumping 7 or more inches of rain in just a few days will make it very tough on them as the land they are camped on is a hillside that gets mud slides due to a lot of runoff water from the properties at the top of the hill. Of course those tent camps also contribute to the slide issues as the vegetation that covers the hillside and helps prevent the slides is getting trampled and damaged as well as being cut for firewood. Not going to be a pleasant time for any of them this last half of December.

 

[swlands]

I think the Supreme Court ruling was so they weren't stepping into a bottomless long drop of bullshit that desperately needs a legislative response, not a response by justice types. The social safety nets in the US need the gaping rents and holes patched up. I live in Oakland and we are inundated. The NYT ran a photo diary recently comparing Oakland homeless camps to Mexican slums. The Mexican slums were more stable, generally cleaner, as they were more tolerated. What we have here in Oakland is worse than 3rd world as we have wealth all around it that has no way to address it, and is trying to push it away. In 3rd world countries they accept is kind of OK, so it is more stable. In that way it is a problem of the wealthy as much as the homeless. The solution is not a city level one, maybe a state level one, but really it needs a federal level one.

 

[WanderingRose]

Surge in number of homeless in California drives increase in US third year in a row.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ird-year-driven-by-surge-california-hud-says/