No flogging from me! I agree with everyone on overpopulation, large footprints, over use of resources, pollution, ulterior motives, and global reset. There is nothing we can do about natural global resets but there is (if there is such a thing) with self imposed global reset if you're starting at the beginning or somewhere before the scale tips. It sounds like we resist a fatalist viewpoint. If we didn't we would live for immediate gratification, for only ourselves. We wouldn't tout these things we do is for the good.
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In spite of being gunshy I would like to participate in this conversation and try to articulate my non definitive thouhts. But first my conscience compels me to thank everyone for their apologies. Thank you. Now back to the disclaimer ...
The following may be offensive to some viewers. Crap, the way I think the above may have been also! ??
Personaly, with resisting a fatilist viewpoint I guess that means I hope that things can be set right, even if the scale has been tipped: maybe not physically but moraly/spiritualy? Why I care I'm not real sure other than feeling regret, responsibility and empathy for those people, animals, plants and everything else that did not have a choice in the matter; only that my trying shows an effort at making amends especially if I don't know if it is too late. Those who believe they can and those who believe they can't are both right, comes to mind. It's just the side I'd rather error on.
I am more green than I used to be. I am more green than some and less green than others. I enjoy learning new ways (i.e. van dwelling, forest gardens, freeganism, primitive skills, ...) and implementing what I can to become greener. It just seems that the most green lifestyle would be the primitive nomadic lifestyle. It seems that would keep things in check and balance.
The leap from an industrialized lifestyle to a primitive lifestyle seems huge to me, both personaly and globaly. I am spoiled, I would miss my utilities! Even living in a van depends on potable water which depends on infrastructure because too many people have pissed in the same pond. In order to live that lifestyle I'd have to move to a different country and I cannot expect my family to follow. Neither am I going to commit suicide for it. So I look for compromises, something in between. Compromises bring me back to shame for not doing all that I can. I want to live with integrity and I also want to live my dreams but I am befuddled with hurdles to get there.
