Prepper Anti-EMP Home/RV Set-Up

[squid]

So of course I don't know if these warnings are real or not but I've received three notifications by video recommendations that there's a recent government double warning to prepare for 6 months without power.  A hack to the grid would mean solar/vehicle (off grid) would be fine, but an EMP attack would mean that solar would be impaired, the electronic charge regulator would not work and any vehicle manufactured after 1970 with electronic starters would not work.
I would be sol for I don't know how to replace a starter even if I put an extra one in a faraday box, but I'm studying how and plan to do this plus get solar electronics protected too.
I'm figuring with vehicle and solar one could do a lot better than without.  Plus I've got spare water, water in my hot water tank, and my water filtering system, plus propane in the RV.  But nothing that would last 6 months, and it's cold. 
6 months?

 

[Seminole Wind]

if it is a government double warning, where is this original warning?

also before you get all to stressed out you might want to study up on how and emp or "grid hack" would actually affect things. it aint like in the movies

starters for one, are just electric (not electronic) motors.

something capable of creating and emp big enoiugh to disrupt the majority of the country will bring with it so many other problems that worrying about your charge controller is going to be way down the list.

6 months with out power and you better know how to hunt/gather and grow your own. electricity from solar and having a working car would not be what saves your life.

learn how to do with out just in case, and enjoy what we got while we got it

 

[squid]

Around here, as in not very rural, it'd turn awful quickly.

 

[lenny flank]

I don't get very excited by anything I see on YouTube. It's a realm of cranks and crackpots.

 

[squid]

"congressional warning that up to 90 percent of the population on the East Coast would die in a year of an attack that would dismantle or interfere with electricity, transportation, food processing, and healthcare. "
"A presidential advisory council found that existing national plans, response resources, and coordination strategies would be outmatched by a catastrophic power outage. The National Infrastructure Advisory Council (NIAC), made up of executives from both the public and private sector, advised that this requires a new national focus on the risk. The council’s report, released this month, found that a cyberattack timed to coincide with a natural disaster could be especially critical to public health, safety, and national and economic security. NIAC recommended designing a national approach to prepare for, respond to, and recover from catastrophic power outages that would provide Federal guidance, resources, and incentives needed to take action across all levels of government and industry. Additionally, the report suggesting improving the understanding of how cascading failures across critical infrastructure would affect restoration and survival."

 

[KarlH]

There was a pretty informative article on EMPs from atmospheric nuclear blasts here: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/22/nork_nukes_could_emp_us/

From the article:

When a nuclear weapon is detonated it doesn't just generate the massive ball of fiery destruction we're all familiar with, but also three distinct levels of electromagnetic pulse.

1: As gamma rays erupt from the exploding bomb, they generate a "fast pulse" EMP, or E1, as they strike air molecules. This peaks at tens of kilovolts per metre in a few nanoseconds, lasts for a few hundred nanoseconds in total, and can induce thousands of amperes in electrical systems.

2: From around one microsecond to one second after the explosion, the interaction of gamma rays also generates E2 EMP. This is less of an issue, but coupled with the E1 pulse could cause electrical damage.

3: However, it's the E3 "slow pulse" that's a massive problem for industries, like power generation and telecommunications, below the blast. It is caused by the effect of the explosion on the planet's magnetic field and can last hundreds of seconds. Its effect on electrical systems using long cables is immense, generating hundreds to thousands of amperes in conducting lines.

So the main damage would be to the transformers and autotransformers that are used to raise and lower the voltage of current traveling along long-distance transmission lines. They could be badly overheated, in the worst case to the point of needing to be replaced.

 

[John61CT]

There's a silver bullet solution to this level of SHTF civilization collapse.

As in a bullet. . .

 

[Doubleone]

I don't buy into Internet hype.  EMP and grid hacks are two different animals.  EMP has limitations.  Energy varies with the inverse square of the distance.  In other words, twice the distance gets a quarter of the energy.  For an EMP to affect a large area, we're talking about a very large nuclear air blast in relatively near proximity.  Capability for air blast is limited to nation states and very difficult to achieve without a missile or aircraft to elevate the nuke.  To affect the bulk of CONUS we're talking about multiple coordinated detonations over every major city, so at that point we'll have a heck of a lot more problems with radiation than the effects of EMP.  Rogue states and terrorists are only capable of hitting U.S. with small nukes smuggled across the border or in a shipping container.  Terrorists are much less interested in EMP, more in dirty bombs, or ground blast with lots of radioactive fall out to create casualties and panic.  Our biggest vulnerability is south border and sea ports.  Long beach CA is high on the list of likely targets.  That would likely be a ground burst, probably from a shipping container.  Good news though, I've seen the projections and Arizona isn't in the fall out path... 

Just red team this for a second... EMP doesn't fit the bill, there are too many other attractive targets with much easier delivery systems that can better fulfill terrorist intentions.  Grid hacks are a possibility, but safety measures have been put in place, and it's likely to affect only a single region at a shot.  Again, most likely would be nation state hacks, using quantum computer to break encryption.  At most a remote hack would affect electric generation and switches, not the computer control hardware itself.  A lot of security chatter involves use of air gap for sensitive systems.  So at worst a reboot or clean reinstall would be a fairly quick recovery.  Vehicle starters, batteries, and solar panels would not be affected.  Electronic chips and magnetic media are vulnerable, but some already have RF shielding and are more robust.  But again, the intensity depends on distance.

 

[MrNoodly]

I'm enjoying life but have no great goals to accomplish, nothing in my bucket list so important to me I'd do anything to live long enough to accomplish them. I'm an aging fart with no family. I have no desire to live in the type of world preppers prepare for. So if an apocalyptic thing turned life to ****, I would wave goodbye and put my pistol to my head.

 

[ckelly78z]

Living on a 10 acre farm, we already have many provisions on hand for whatever emergency comes along. Ironically, we would probably move into our 30' Heartland camper in our back yard. It already has all the neccesary systems in place. I have the two 30# propane tanks on the camper, and 4 more 20# tanks that I fill each fall. When we camp in the backyard, we dump our tanks into a blue carrier, and roll it 100' away, and dump it into our septic tank. For water, we have a pool with 10,000 gallons that would need to be filtered, but we have those also. We have plenty of chickens, and ducks, along with a few goats that could be eaten if required.

I need to get a PTO driven generator for my old 70s John Deere garden tractor (runs on points, and condensor) to provide power for my house freezer/fridge that I would wrap with insulation. It would also charge my camper batteries.

 

[John61CT]

Fuel supply?

 

[Ticklebellly]

I have no desire to live in the type of world preppers prepare for. 

I am with you on that.   If I saw the Nuclear flash short of the horizon, I would just stand up tall and get it over with.


I am though, into the notion that I might have to look after me and mine for a few weeks without outside support.   Have long had my eye on a commercially available 5 HP donkey steam engine.   No fuel issues around here.