Porta Potti Antifreeze?

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<P>How do you keep the water in the upper part of your porta potti from freezing when you're away from your rig when it's below freezing (of similar concern is beverages and canned goods like soup, etc). </P>
 
(of similar concern is beverages and canned goods like soup, etc).
<br><br>You can use an ice chest or make an insulated box to keep your canned goods in to keep them from freezing....as a extra precaution you can wrap the cooler in a blanket.....try to keep it off the floor if possibe.<br><br>I have been in very cold weather with below freezing temperature and never had a problem. Good luck!<br>
 
<SPAN id=post_message_1271853484>why not use Windshield washer fluid--<BR>(blue stuff) about $1.oo per Gallon---not sure if it would harm the Potty or not---but it is a idea.<BR>sparky1 in Va.</SPAN>
<BR><BR>Thanks sparky, I'll check it out. I'll see if it can be diluted to cut down on cost. The porta potti water reservoir holds around 3 gallons.&nbsp;Didn't wanta worry about the potti freezing and busting&nbsp; and wasn't looking forward to draining and refilling throughout the winter. This is my first experience with a porta potti.<BR>
 
You can use an ice chest or make an insulated box to keep your canned goods in to keep them from freezing....as a extra precaution you can wrap the cooler in a blanket.....try to keep it off the floor if possibe.<BR><BR>I have been in very cold weather with below freezing temperature and never had a problem. Good luck!&nbsp;
<br><br>Thanks PB, why didn't I think of that. Got several old ice chests lying around that I could use. Genius.<br>
 
<p style="margin: 0px;">About antifreeze, I found this answer by googling ... He says</p><p style="margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin: 0px;">"If I may, as a chemist, weigh in here on this issue, I'd like to say that RV antifreeze, the non-toxic stuff, contains propylene glycol, which is also used in foods and cosmetics. It is the only antifreeze you should use in your RV water system, gray water or black water tank, toilet, or traps. Using regular automotive antifreeze, which contains ethylene glycol is a really bad idea because it is not biodegradable and is highly toxic. Windshield washer fluid is a really bad idea too, because not only is it toxic it is highly volatile and explosively flammable. The vapors can kill you, either by poisoning you or by catching fire and/or exploding.<br><br>I've bought both RV antifreeze and automotive antifreeze within the last month, and the RV antifreeze was less than half the cost of the automotive antifreeze, and although both were more expensive than the windshield washer solution, I'd still go with the RV stuff for these applications.<br><br>The auto antifreeze is bad news in a septic tank and illegal to dump down a sewer, and for good reason. Windshield washer solution will also dry out fairly quickly, certainly quickly enough to be of no use over a winter.<br><br>And although the RV stuff recommends you not dilute it, doing so to the tune of say 50/50 with urine or even water will certainly raise the freezing point, it will probably not do so enough to cause a problem at the temperatures at which people might be tempted to go camping.<br><br>Oh, and for what it is worth, both antifreeze solutions make fine coolants. But please use the correct one. Your car, your RV, your spouse, your kids, and the environment all thank you.&nbsp;"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br></p><p style="margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
 
Why not just us a porta potty? The type with a lid and a liner or plastic bag and then put kitty litter in it.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Do this for the winter months, then revert back to regular in the other months.</div>
 
<P>Why not just drive to warmer weather? <img src="/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"></P>
 
<font face="Georgia" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);">I'll opt to stand in kitty litter on a liner, drinking vodka, while urinating into the 50/50 RV antifreeze. &nbsp;In bunny slippers. &nbsp;At least they will get a chuckle when they pry me from the frozen RV and one first responder &nbsp;at least will say "WTH was goin' on heyah?" &nbsp;;0</font>
 
Me I dont use a porta potti nor do i think any man needs one, it is a waste of space, a pain to clean, and yeah now freezes what joy to be civil... Pick up a 5 gal. bucket, a 5 gal. bucket toilet seat(Cabelas), floor dry and some draw tight kitchen bags... i am sure you can figure out how they go together and never worry about a frozen porta potti again... oh yeah double bag the bucket in case of a bad kitchen bag... Yup a man litter bucket, absolutely genius...<br>
 
<span style="font-family: andale mono,times;">&nbsp;This is what i do during the cold months, 13 gallon kitchen bags fit just fine in the Thetford, and cover the manure with kitty litter. After 2 or so uses, i just tie it up and place it in the nearest rubbish can.<br />Hugs<br /></span>
WildernessReturn said:
Why not just us a porta potty? The type with a lid and a liner or plastic bag and then put kitty litter in it.&nbsp;<div>Do this for the winter months, then revert back to regular in the other months.</div>
 
I know I am being a wuss but I don't believe I could do it in a bag. Well... I could do it in a bag but it's the after steps that make me cringe. I just can't see sleeping near a bucket with stink in it! Even with the kitty litter it just screams "no don't go there". Don't even tell me it doesn't smell. I have had cats in the past with litter boxes that everyone knows is in the house the minute you enter the door.<br /><br />I don't mind peeing in a big mouth jar but I am gonna need a mcdonald's flush for the rest.<br />I don't suppose you can boot-camp it and just shovel out a little hole and bury it, right?<br />It's funny cos the dogs, bears and lions can poo in the wild but humans can not (too toxic)
 
cedric said:
I know I am being a wuss but I don't believe I could do it in a bag. Well... I could do it in a bag but it's the after steps that make me cringe. I just can't see sleeping near a bucket with stink in it! Even with the kitty litter it just screams "no don't go there". Don't even tell me it doesn't smell. I have had cats in the past with litter boxes that everyone knows is in the house the minute you enter the door.<br /><br />I don't mind peeing in a big mouth jar but I am gonna need a mcdonald's flush for the rest.<br />I don't suppose you can boot-camp it and just shovel out a little hole and bury it, right?<br />It's funny cos the dogs, bears and lions can poo in the wild but humans can not (too toxic)
&nbsp; That is called a cat hole. It is totally acceptable,look it up on the nps.gov website.
 
Wow, I just checked it out on the "national park service" website and here is what I found.<br /><br />"<span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: verdana,sans-verdana,sans-serif;">All refuse must be carried out. Use the cat hole method to dispose of human waste. Dig a small hole 6 to 8 inches deep and a minimum of 200 feet from any water source. Since animals will often dig up cat holes and scatter the toilet paper, it is preferred that you pack out all toilet paper. If you must bury toilet paper, use a minimal amount and bury with at least 6 inches of soil. Strain food particles from wastewater, pack out food scraps, and scatter remaining water more than 200 feet from any stream channel.</span></span>"<br /><br />http://www.nps.gov/badl/planyourvisit/backcountry-camping.htm
 
well here in kalifornia you cannot buy windshield wiper fluid that will not freeze&nbsp; "its bad for the enviroment".&nbsp; so now people make thier own concoction.&nbsp; like thats good for the enviroment.&nbsp; but back to the subject i would use a little rubbing alcohol or salt in the water to&nbsp;lower the freeze temp but check what effect on seals first.&nbsp; highdesertranger
 
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