Lyme Disease?

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I was once diagnosed with Lyme, eventually the diagnosis was changed to an autoimmune disease. I got sick way before I became a Nomad, I believe living this way allows me to live with less stress, and makes my life with a chronic illness happier than it had been previously.


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The symptoms of Lyme overlap with a number of conditions, including autoimmune. This is an area that traditional medicine doesn't like to address, but the younger folks are much more likely to take these symptoms seriously. It is much more common than you would imagine.

Lyme is not so common in the West, but it is here.
 
Must always rule out STARI (Southern Tick-Associated Rash Illness) when diagnosing Lyme. Had a friend in Tennessee with the classic bullseye skin lesion. Her Lyme serology was negative and the diagnosis was STARI.
 
There is an entire Internet culture built around "chronic Lyme". The reality is that there is no such thing. DNA sequencing demonstrates that people who have "chronic Lyme" are actually being continually reinfected again and again. So keep those ticks off you.
 
My 'Lyme' symptoms were started by a severe gastrointestinal infection. Best guess is 'Yersinia Enterocolitica', a digestive version of the plague that likes cooler weather. It killed my dog, who'd also been eating Old Roy from Walmart and likely had Canine Diabetes just prior.

My thought is that ongoing Lyme is actually just the long term effects of the neurological damage.

The science is getting much better on this, but I too am skeptical of the Lyme specialists who prescribe long term heavy antibiotics.
 
It is said that the ticks that carry Lyme Disease don't 'spit' the bacteria into the bite for about 36 hours after attaching itself to your skin. Check your entire body every 24 hours and if you find a tick, gently remove it with steady pressure (don't pull the body off the buried head). Ticks are quite small before feeding.
 
lenny flank said:
 . . . DNA sequencing demonstrates that people who have "chronic Lyme" are actually being continually reinfected again and again . . .

Do you have a link to that study(s)?
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
Do you have a link to that study(s)?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4311275/

ABSTRACT:
Whether or not Borrelia burgdorferi can persist after conventional treatment with antimicrobials has been a very controversial issue. Two recent studies took different approaches to try to answer this question. In one, investigators showed that, in each of 22 instances in 17 patients with two consecutive episodes of culture-proved erythema migrans, the strains of B. burgdorferi were different based on their genotypes. This indicated that the repeat episodes were due to new infections rather than recrudescence of the original infection. In another study, in which persistence of B. burgdorferi was assessed by using xenodiagnosis, no viable B. burgdorferi were cultured from ticks fed on any of the patients. There continues to be no evidence that viable B. burgdorferi persist in humans after conventional treatment with antimicrobials.
 
There is a theory that it persists in some joint related tissues. I still think the symptoms are due nerve damage. That damage likely can heal slowly, but if you are obsessing you can make it worse. The medical effects of stress on the neurological system are one area where modern medical medicine totally fails.

It has something to do with the duality of mind/body in medicine/psychology, but I haven't figured that all out.
 
Daniel vitalis just did a podcast on a tick specialist.. surthrival podcast... pretty interesting.
 
I got it at Ft McCoy in 2000.
Extreme fever, bullseye on upper extremity. It manifested a few days after discharge.

Funny, the PA saw me first, got mad at me and said i didn't have it. MD came in, said there's zero question so wasn't going to even bother with tests. (She was from Wisconsin, and said McCoy was a high incidence area)

I had a few recurrences, VA tested and it came up positive. (Wasn't at McCoy, or anywhere near the woods/foliage)

Bn surgeon said the civ MD didn't prescribe a high enough dose. Later recurrences VA pharmacist wondered why VA MD had prescribed such a dose.

Odd thing, a buddy said 'you really changed' after Lymes. Never asked how

You won't see the tick. Too small
 
Blanch said:
I was once diagnosed with Lyme, eventually the diagnosis was changed to an autoimmune disease. I got sick way before I became a Nomad, I believe living this way allows me to live with less stress, and makes my life with a chronic illness happier than it had been previously.


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Blanch, I hear that clearly !
Whew !

This pile of stick & bricks I have bought for the fellow has caused SO much stress in my life few could imagine !!!

ATM I am learning how to respond to the legal papers, because it is just not timely for me and would really aggravate my health problems.

Do the best you can to keep your stress level down. So much is dependent upon it.  wheels
 
Boyntonstu said:
I noticed that several members of this forum were suffering from Lyme Disease.

Wow!  That is awful!  

Is boondocking the reason?

Is there anything than can be done to prevent getting LD?

FYI Lyme Disease Awareness Month May 2018:

https://www.lymedisease.org/get-involved/take-action/lyme-awareness-month/
iIMO...
No, boondocking is Not the reason.
It may increase possibility of exposure to a vector, but appropriate care may be taken to minimize risk.

Minimize hiking through heavy brush when in an area where it is prevalent.
Wear the appropriate long clothing that protects your body from scratches.
Good hygiene practices are important.  wheels

https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/transmission/index.html
 
I had Lyme and Babesia. It was diagnosed as autoimmunes for almost three years, in that time my body went through about what you'd expect being run over with a bulldozer would do. Lost about 50% range of motion in most my joints, more in my hands and feet. Lost 60 lbs, lost most my hair, my skin hardened and tightened in different spots. Finally happened upon a nurse who refused to believe I had anything other than Lyme, as she was from Martha's Vineyard which has seen lots of Lyme cases and lots of them do weird things. Pushed me to see a Dr she knew and I did, she started treating me for Lyme and things started getting a lot better. Gained all my weight back, my hair is almost back to normal, all my joints are back to 100% except for my hands and feet, they're still improving day by day. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet and I suspect a lot of what people label as chronic lyme is in fact nerve damage, but that's just my hunch.

In Maine, most Dr's are now giving people 7 to 10 days of Doxycycline if they pull a deer tick that's attached to them as a safety precaution. They're starting to think a tick might not have to be attached very long at all to transmit the Lyme. There are a few dozen co-infections you can get in addition to Lyme as well, and most Dr'sthat do the lyme test don't test for the other co infections you can get, so a lot of people go untreated and/or get diagnosed with an auto immune, a mystery illness, or are labeled crazy. Ticks are no joke and they are going to continue to become a bigger and bigger problem. Not everyone gets the rash and the tests aren't always accurate....you can get both false negatives and positives.

Lyme disease is still being studied and I think what they think they know about it today will be different from what they actually know about it in ten years. For anyone that hasn't lived through it, I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy.
 
Blanch said:
I was once diagnosed with Lyme, eventually the diagnosis was changed to an autoimmune disease. I got sick way before I became a Nomad, I believe living this way allows me to live with less stress, and makes my life with a chronic illness happier than it had been previously.


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Blanch, that is my story. I was diagnosed 20 years ago with Lyme Desease. Now they are looking at Autoimmune. But poor or lack of insurance, I still need to get fully tested. I agree stress makes me worst, so I am looking forward to having less stress.
 
Kflan61 said:
Blanch, that is my story. I was diagnosed 20 years ago with Lyme Desease. Now they are looking at Autoimmune. But poor or lack of insurance, I still need to get fully tested. I agree stress makes me worst, so I am looking forward to having less stress.


Less stress is key. Best wishes on your journey.


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Including less stress from medical professionals! I like the post exercise malaise approach to chronic fatigue and believe it applies to other stressors. Also an organic low carb diet andLOTS of turmeric.
 
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