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kyonu said:
Again, Chromebooks use actual hard drives like any other laptop, and the cloud is just an option. An external HDD is also an option.

Cloud has many benefits, especially for someone in my field (IT) where I need to go between multiple computers, so it isn't just a personal storage thing. There is nothing wrong with the cloud since it is completely and 100% optional.

I would consider using the cloud as a back up option. Such backed up files would be safe even if your vehicle caught on fire and burned to the ground, taking your computer and external hard drive with it.

Privacy could be protected by only uploading encrypted, compressed files. They are, after all, only back ups, not working copies.

The biggest issue is that you need an internet connection to reach the cloud, and that's often not available when you're boondocking out past West Nowhere.

To my mind, that's the deal breaker for machines that depend on the cloud for routine use. Wouldn't be a problem for back ups, though. Just upload your back ups when you drive into town for supplies.

Regards
John
 
That's my issue...no internet you basically have a 300 dollar paperweight
 
Assuming it's really a brand new computer, that $199 price is hard to beat. Geez, my first laptop back in the 90s cost $6,000! I was buying memory SD cards for $200 not too many years ago. At $200, that would be my "throw-away" computer for internet usage. I always keep at least one or two older computers with hardly any information for internet surfing usage. In case of ever catching a virus that might screw up the hard drive, I wouldn't care. Simply restore the computer to factory restore settings and start over again. I wouldn't do that with my newer more expensive computers though.


GrayWhale said:
Brand new Dell 15.6" laptop for $199. Hard to beat this. Just doesn't have a CD/DVD drive. Win 8.1, Celeron dual core, 500gb, 4gb. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=295618

Never seen a Dell fail before, with my first one bought in 1990? for $2000, Pentium I with Win95. Only the battery gave up.
 
i have been considering a chromebook with ubuntu installed to replace my now dead ASUS(they make great stuff) laptop, power usage is very low, my only problem is they have tiny SSDs and no HDD bay. not good when i need to work with lots of HD video.
it's a shame tablets and chromebooks have killed netbooks.
 
minimotos95 said:
i have been considering a chromebook with ubuntu installed to replace my now dead ASUS(they make great stuff) laptop, power usage is very low, my only problem is they have tiny SSDs and no HDD bay. not good when i need to work with lots of HD video.
it's a shame tablets and chromebooks have killed netbooks.

You can take out the SSD and replace it with a large HDD. The only notebook I have or seen with a 2nd HDD bay is with an 18" screen, so it's huge.

By definition, a netbook is supposed to be something nice and small so you're not going to have a 2nd bay for another HD. They don't even come with an optical drive. Not sure what kind of work you can do with the weak processors of a netbook and their non-dedicated graphics card that shares memory with the motherboard, that's usually 4g max.
 
Gotta watch it though, cuz many SSD's these days are tiny MSATA units and not swappable with HDD's. ..Willy.
 
Actually very few SSD's have mSATA, and very few laptops support it. Chromebooks, from the ones I looked in, use regular HDD's and SSD's.

EDIT: Though it appears a lot of the newer chromebooks are migrating to mSATA... That sucks.
 
The small form factor devices (especially tablets), given that the HDD is not soldered on or eMMC, is where you'll find mSATA SSD's. Business grade laptops, like my X220t, often have a free mSATA connector. I thought about adding a 2nd SSD but.. just gilding the lily. ..Willy.
 
I just saw a HP 15.6 laptop with a hybrid 1 terrabyte drive. It's part ssd and part hdd. I assume two separate drives one for programs and boot off of the other for data (pics and vids).

I just saw Lenova is now offering my laptop the Yoga 11s with a 500 gig SSD (mine is only 128). It's only a Intel I3 so it's not as powerful, but a big SSD would still be amazing for photos.
Bob
 
SSD drives had mixed reviews when they first came out, including doubts about its reliability. I would tend to think a drive that doesn't move internally would be more reliable than something that keeps spinning in circles.

From my experience, it's usually better and more cost effective to simply buy a new computer versus upgrading a part or two. For example, say you upgrade to a better faster hard drive for a 5 to 10 year old laptop. But the problem is that all the other innards of the laptop are still...well, old! It would not be cost effective to also swap out the many other old parts for new ones...at least, not for an old computer/laptop.

When I first started buying HD (High Definition) video cameras several years ago, it was great shooting in 1080 high def motion. But when I tried copying and playing back the same high def video onto my older laptops, guess what happened? They choked! The old laptops played back the video very choppy, probably due to old video graphics card and low video RAM memory, etc. I think there was another old laptop that wouldn't play the high-def video at all. Simply refused to.

That's when I realized I had to buy new laptops...so I did. All my new Windows laptops bought within the last couple years can play back high def 1080 videos with no problem.

I also had to toss (donate) my old netbooks, as those things were pathetically sloooooow. I mean dang sloooooooooow! The netbooks back then had an intriguing entry level price between $200 to $400 years ago, but they cannot do any SERIOUS computing work. Just too freakin' slow. It's painful to watch the Windows hourglass just spinning trying to complete a task, it's like watching paint dry, haha!

Anyway, I will wait longer for SSD drives to get to 1 Terabyte and larger, plus at an attractive price point for me to be interested. Moore's Law is always in your favor when it comes to consumer electronics.
 
Willy said:
Gotta watch it though, cuz many SSD's these days are tiny MSATA units and not swappable with HDD's. ..Willy.

Why would netbooks have mSATA when the industry is reverting back to standard size notebooks with optical drives? I see mSATA going into tablets more. But if by chance your notebook or netbook is mSATA, then just open it up to check before buying the HDD.

But this would be a waste as it defeats the purpose of buying a computer equipped already with an SSD. Should have gotten one with a big HDD to begin with.
 
In my continued research, I found that Intel introduced a new high efficiency processor last month ...

"Intel unveiled a 14-nanometer fan-less Intel Core M processor ... aimed at quiet, thin and energy-efficient laptops and tablets. 'It's cool, it's quiet, it's lighter, it's thinner, and it's the most energy efficient processor in Intel's history' ... The Intel Core M processor will become available later this year." (http://mashable.com/2014/06/04/intel-shows-off-fanless-energy-efficient-chip/)

I wonder if my current notebook will hold up until I can get this upgrade from Intel's Atom.

BTW, I'm having a heck of a time finding anyplace that has the Dell Venue 11 Pro available to test out (have tried Best Buy, Staples, Costco, even the Microsoft Store as recommended by Best Buy).

Suanne ... still on the hunt for a low power usage notebook replacement.
 
I just decided to go for a Fujitsu q584. Dockable windows 8.1 tablet, will work for basic lightroom and photo editing, video playback etc. Sure it's not a gaming rig or hardcore video editing setup, but I won't have the internet for that either.

Big bonuses over the usual crop of tablet computers:
-micro SD card slot(128gb card will add a lot of storage space, usb 3.0 port to connect 2 terabyte portable drives).
-SIM card slot for data connection
-WATERPROOF!!!
-Nice mix of docks and keyboard with extra batteries available, though pricey.
 
Update from OP:

I decided to go with a "hybrid" Asus Transformer tablet -- SSD in the tablet for quick boot up & programs, and HDD in the keyboard for storage of pics and docs. I've had it about a week; so far, so good. Even the 10.1" screen and smaller keyboard seem to be large enough for me to do what I want and need to do. I'm enjoying the touchscreen, and even the transition to Win 8.1 has been pretty easy.

If I had money to spare, I would have loved a Surface. But, for my budget and needs, this tablet w/keyboard is working great.

I haven't tracked power usage yet. But, it doesn't get hot and the batteries last much longer than my notebook. So, I expect much lower power consumption.

Kyonu, you mentioned in an earlier post that you upgraded to a 17.5w adapter for your Asus Transformer. Can you tell me more about that?

Thanks again everyone for your input, insights, and advice.

Suanne
 
For those of you into custom PC's, there are 12 volt power supply units available, so you can skip the inverter. Best thing i can think of for efficiency. Just a thought in case you wanted to run with an existing TV used as a monitor. There are also in dash 12 volt computers that run Windows 8 with a 7" touchscreen....some variation of that could be made to work in a van...
 
I have been thinking of getting a refurbished I Pad from the Apple store. The prices are at least half of the new i pads, I have an i pod and like using it but the screen is just to small to be practical.
 
Amps laptop charger how to check :



This amperage measured from a 19 volt source. Convert to watts and then divide by 12 volts to get the amperage taken from a nominal 12 volt system.


Another good You Tube video. This may help us understand a bit better as in this example the person is measuring the draw from an off grid system. He is using a 12 volt adapter here and the draw is fairly stable at around 1.5 amps as his laptop is not charging it's batteries. He recommends no less than a 70 watt solar array to keep a Dell laptop running.

Testing the amp draw of the PWR+ 12v voltage converter for Dell Laptops

 
Macbook Air's are reasonably priced and extremely power efficient with excellent battery life. If you can swing the $999+tax, I'd go that route.
 
I have a PWR+ 12 volt converter for my Lenova laptop and it works great and was really cheap. You can get them on Amazon.
Bob
 

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