I'm out

[tx2sturgis]

Some actions have recently been taken by the admin team that should make it more pleasant here.

All I'm sayin.

 

[Happy Camper]

Some actions have recently been taken by the admin team that should make it more pleasant here.

All I'm sayin.

I was out this morning too. Then I came back this evening. Happens almost every day. Unless I have no signal...

 

[Gfmucci]

It reminds me of the old routine from the 80's and 90's, paraphrased:

Tom: I can't believe all the offensive programs that I'm seeing on my TV these days!

Jack: What are you referring to exactly?

Tom: All the smut that I keep playing on my VCR!
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Folks, this forum can't please everyone....and no matter what posts we delete, or keep, who we censor, or not, or which member gets warned, or allowed, it's going to make someone, or multiple people, unhappy.

Our best solution was to allow political controversy in a dedicated subforum, where users can express opinions and engage in a back-and-forth conversation about politics and other controversial topics. Each member can 'opt out' of the political subforum (or any other subforum) with a couple of mouse clicks and then they will not see that stuff.

Contrast this with 'Big Social Media' where the censors in some foreign data center delete your satire, complaints, opinions, fake news, pictures, memes, political ramblings, etc, with no recourse...and for any perceived transgression, they can anonymously throw you in 'Facebook Jail'...or whatever the term is now for being banished for a while. "We slap you on the wrist you bad, bad, person"

I saw a recent post by Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook, claiming that his censors on Facebook were too heavy-handed and were going to back off a little...well let's see how that works out for presidents, politicians, pundits, journalists, actors, comedians, scientists, and everyone else who has had their posts removed and sometimes their accounts have been deleted. Ouch.

I'm not happy when someone leaves, but it's like any other forum, or venue, or activity: we can't be the perfect, happy place for everyone in every situation, or walk of life, and we know that.

And we're OK with it.

Good luck vanbrat...we enjoyed your participation here.

You're welcome to return at any time in the future.

This is a case of a person needing a "safe space" so as not to be offended or triggered. I support the continuation of the "politics" thread because it allows us to share and understand the unique political perspectives of van lifers, who are a unique breed.

Do van people tend to be liberal/ progressive/hippie types, which is the likely stereotype, or is there a large segment that tend toward being conservative, retired, or work from the road types? There can be xonsiderable overlap. The politics thread will share and reveal these tendencies.

 

[Happy Camper]

This is a case of a person needing a "safe space" so as not to be offended or triggered.

They articulate their reasoning well. No need to add any narratives or wording to simplify someone else's words. They said what they said.

You're adding safe space and triggered to the narrative. Please don't make it what it isn't.

Example: The restaurant you have gone to for years changed the menu and attracts a different clientele. You don't like the food or the ambiance as much anymore. You find another restaurant. You're not triggered, or need a safe space. It just isn't for you anymore.
It is what it is.

Do van people tend to be liberal/ progressive/hippie types, which is the likely stereotype, or is there a large segment that tend toward being conservative, retired, or work from the road types? There can be xonsiderable overlap. The politics thread will share and reveal these tendencies.

As with any slice of the population, you get those from a wide spectrum of thoughts and beliefs. It's been interesting to read and learn what others think on this forum. As with all things, there is some good and some bad. What things depends on your frame of reference lol.

 

[Gfmucci]

It reminds me of the old routine from the 80's and 90's, paraphrased:

Tom: I can't believe all the offensive programs that I'm seeing on my TV these days!

Jack: What are you referring to exactly?

Tom: All the smut that I keep playing on my VCR!
______________________________________________________

Folks, this forum can't please everyone....and no matter what posts we delete, or keep, who we censor, or not, or which member gets warned, or allowed, it's going to make someone, or multiple people, unhappy.

Our best solution was to allow political controversy in a dedicated subforum, where users can express opinions and engage in a back-and-forth conversation about politics and other controversial topics. Each member can 'opt out' of the political subforum (or any other subforum) with a couple of mouse clicks and then they will not see that stuff.

Contrast this with 'Big Social Media' where the censors in some foreign data center delete your satire, complaints, opinions, fake news, pictures, memes, political ramblings, etc, with no recourse...and for any perceived transgression, they can anonymously throw you in 'Facebook Jail'...or whatever the term is now for being banished for a while. "We slap you on the wrist you bad, bad, person"

I saw a recent post by Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook, claiming that his censors on Facebook were too heavy-handed and were going to back off a little...well let's see how that works out for presidents, politicians, pundits, journalists, actors, comedians, scientists, and everyone else who has had their posts removed and sometimes their accounts have been deleted. Ouch.

I'm not happy when someone leaves, but it's like any other forum, or venue, or activity: we can't be the perfect, happy place for everyone in every situation, or walk of life, and we know that.

And we're OK with it.

Good luck vanbrat...we enjoyed your participation here.

You're welcome to return at any time in the future.

They articulate their reasoning well. No need to add any narratives or wording to simplify someone else's words. They said what they said.

You're adding safe space and triggered to the narrative. Please don't make it what it isn't.

Example: The restaurant you have gone to for years changed the menu and attracts a different clientele. You don't like the food or the ambiance as much anymore. You find another restaurant. You're not triggered, or need a safe space. It just isn't for you anymore.
It is what it is.

As with any slice of the population, you get those from a wide spectrum of thoughts and beliefs. It's been interesting to read and learn what others think on this forum. As with all things, there is some good and some bad. What things depends on your frame of reference lol.

"Please don't make it what it isn't". But it is, from my experience. Those who can't stand the topic of "politics" in any form or forum, based on my experience, are most often (not all) those who are easily triggered or feel bothered or disturbed by such conversation or topics. In the minds of many of those folks, the topic of economics, finance, international relations, social preferences or interactions, cost of living, etc etc etc, are ALL considered "politics" and consequently off the table for discussion.

This entire thread ought to be in the "Politcs" section, not "Van Life" section to protect those who want to avoid this discussion or my comments that may be construed as "political".

 

[INTJohn]

Example: The restaurant you have gone to for years changed the menu and attracts a different clientele. You don't like the food or the ambiance as much anymore. You find another restaurant. You're not triggered, or need a safe space. It just isn't for you anymore.
It is what it is.

A decent analogy that I’ll add too:

The “restaurant” never changed the menu. It added a new dish to the existing menu. If one doesnt like the new dish no-one is forcing them to order it and eat it.

One can continue to feed on the numerous choices that continue to be offered but if one chooses to discontinue solely because of a new & independent offering………
…….the World will somehow not stop functioning.

Most of the forums on this site that pertain directly to van living get very little play. Since the political thread introduction it has gotten alot because it was an election year and because of polarizing candidates.

The off topic & chit chat thing i rarely read or post on because mindless chew the fat chit chat isnt generally my idea of edifying conversation - written or verbal so i dont clik on it. Maybe i should protest and throw a juvenile pout about Too Much Off Topik Mindless Chit Chat!!!!!
I’m Guna Leave!!!!

heded back 2 a beach
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