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mikEXpat

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I sent a suggestion to Food and Wine magazine to cover vandwellers who cook. I love cooking. I would love to be able to travel around to cookouts. I hope it was OK to send the message. Sorry if I should have kept our cargo van thing a secret.
 
mikEXpat said:
I sent a suggestion to Food and Wine magazine to cover vandwellers who cook. I love cooking. I would love to be able to travel around to cookouts. I hope it was OK to send the message. Sorry if I should have kept our cargo van thing a secret.

So we will be the next feature in Snooty Living! 

Thanks for the laugh.  

A bottle of decent wine is more than I spend to feed four people for two meals.  A bottle of GOOD wine is as much as a tank of gas.  A bottle of FINE wine will fill the tank three times.  (I have a 35 gallon tank.)  

The Napa Valley does not allow Vandwellers.  Now if you have a full blown RV, that is different!   :p
 
mikEXpat said:
I sent a suggestion to Food and Wine magazine to cover vandwellers who cook. I love cooking. I would love to be able to travel around to cookouts. I hope it was OK to send the message. Sorry if I should have kept our cargo van thing a secret.

Based on the theory that people who live in vans down by the river are a highly desirable demographic for their advertising base? :huh:
 
Optimistic Paranoid said:
Based on the theory that people who live in vans down by the river are a highly desirable demographic for their advertising base? :huh:

I'm hoping that stereotype changes. It's already getting bad with all the news of prisoners and crazies escaping in white vans.
 
GotSmart

"So we will be the next feature in Snooty Living! 

Thanks for the laugh.  

A bottle of decent wine is more than I spend to feed four people for two meals.  A bottle of GOOD wine is as much as a tank of gas.  A bottle of FINE wine will fill the tank three times.  (I have a 35 gallon tank.)  

The Napa Valley does not allow Vandwellers.  Now if you have a full blown RV, that is different!   :p"


Beg to differ. Anyone can spend a lot and usually end up with a good bottle. (Usually.) The art is to spend just a little bit and still drink as well as the folks who spend a lot on the big names. 

I'm interested enough in wine to have worked as a wine rep for a couple different distributors. I favor reds, which tend to be more expensive than whites. A bottle of "decent" red can be had at any good size store on sale for $7-$12, almost any time of the year.  (To me, decent is a 90-92 point wine. That's pretty good stuff...) "Good" wines (93-94 points) are regularly found in the $12-$18 range if you just watch sales at larger stores. 

Tonight I grilled burgers, made of ground chuck and spiced with (among other things) my top secret spice that no one ever thinks to use on beef.  We're polishing off a superb little Argentinian Malbec - 92 points - $6.99 on sale.  You may reflexively scoff, but everyone who tastes it raves.

As a dinner guest, I have brought this same wine three different times now - once with steaks, another with ribs and most recently, fondue. Every time, people have commented, written down the label info and bought more for themselves. (At the fondue dinner, I wrapped the bottles in brown paper bags, and asked everyone to guess the cost.  Guesses were $20-$30!)  

It's all about priorities. If you care about wine, you can budget for it and be in a position to grab a few bottles at a time whenever you see a deal. 

Unless you drink every night (and I hope you don't) you can boondock and enjoy a stock of pretty dang good wines that didn't set you back much at all.  

And man, for the price of a tank of gas, I can almost always come up with a 96-98 point wine that is truly magnificent.  I'm talking about a stunning bottle that would sell for $300-400 at the kind of restaurant that has the clientele inclined to pay that much for wine.

For those who favor lighter wines, I have on hand a nice French Rose that was $6 just before Easter, a 92 point Pinot Grigio that was $8 or a 93 point Chardonnay that was, I think, just $10 or $11.  These are all the kind of wines that would elicit an "mmmm..." of appreciation all around the table at the first sip.

It's really not that difficult.

BTW, I can scope out liquor stores on my smartphone as I pass through any good size city and reliably duplicate these results. If I make it to RTR in 2017, I may just give a class on how to do this - bargain wine hunting, as it were. Everyone would be walking home, so it could be a lot of fun...
 
I went to school with names such as Duckhorn, Davies, Kornell, Mondavi.  I partied in the biggest wineries in the Napa Valley at 3 AM.  owners stock.  (1 bottle for 30 people to sample)   Robert Mondavi himself told us "If I find any of you was drunk, I will personally kick you in the ass!" 

 My wife would get bottles of Schramsberg Blanc de Blanc for babysitting the Davies kids in the 80's

I do not drink wine any more.  My palate was spoiled by the best wine at an early age.  The last really good bottle I had was a 92 Raymond Burr  Cab.  I found that in a little wine shop in 2001. Everything since has been a disappointment.  As`a diabetic, I do not waste my money on something I can only have a sip of, and it will spoil.  

I buy American hand handcraft Shine instead.  One bottle can last the couple months it takes me to savor it.
 
GotSmart said:
I do not drink wine any more.  My palate was spoiled by the best wine at an early age.  The last really good bottle I had was...

Fine wine does not spoil one's palate.  Beyond personal experience, I've worked with enough good chefs and Sommelier's to know for a fact that's absolutely untrue.  

Egos, on the other hand, are quite vulnerable...
 
highdesertranger said:
I take it none of these wines come in a box.  highdesertranger

They all did, 12 bottles at a time!  :D  

And on the serious side, there are better and better box wines coming out every year.  They're great for travel.
 
bindi&us said:
We don't see much in the way of good shine out here in Az.

Try the Midnight Moon brand.  Junior Johnson's family distillery.  The Apple Pie is quite tasty.
 
bindi&us said:
Wine ain't for me :p You could unscrew the top on a nice Boone's Farm for what its worth.
Mezcal suits my taste :)

I have acquired a taste for good Tequila, neat.

Mezcal doesn't quite work for me. I have a nearly new bottle of a supposedly top shelf Mezcal.  (I wouldn't be a good judge of that!) If I'm coming to RTR and you're going to be there as well, all you need to do is remind me before I leave and it's yours!
 
cognitive dissonance said:
Fine wine does not spoil one's palate.  Beyond personal experience, I've worked with enough good chefs and Sommelier's to know for a fact that's absolutely untrue.  

Egos, on the other hand, are quite vulnerable...

Noting compares anymore. I have been spoiled.  

I am not willing to buy any more corporate generic blends.  The thought of some "enophile" spitting out wine and "Waxing poetic" ~~~ BLEH>  

Sitting under the lemon trees at the Olive Oil Company with a little antista and some vino without a label out of someones grandpa's cellar was my late teen years.  If I close my eyes and think, it is still there.  Some aftertaste have lsted 40 years.   The world has changed, and so have I. 

Gallo used to buy the bulk of the Napa Valley crop before the yuppies built another 200+ wineries and tank farms in the upper valley.  Many are crushing central valley grapes for companies that only exist on paper.
 
GotSmart said:
Try the Midnight Moon brand.  Junior Johnson's family distillery.  The Apple Pie is quite tasty.

Junior Johnson's family has a moonshine distillery? Now that's hilarious! Stock car racing grew out of bootlegging!

I'm game. I'll look around and see if I can find some in Colorado!
 
cognitive dissonance - agree 100% about affordable quality wines. We're big Zin and Malbec drinkers and if you're willing to learn a bit, a very fine wine can be had for little money. One of the Malbecs we like was recently on sale buy-one-get-one, so we got a very nice wine for $5.50 a bottle!
 
bindi&us said:
Wine ain't for me :p You could unscrew the top on a nice Boone's Farm for what its worth.
Mezcal suits my taste :)

 So, you don't have taste? I once had a bottle of Mezcal. That is a different, and longer story.
 

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