Buying Land

[rruff]

As to problems with SxSs I hardly ever see any of them

How do you find places that aren't popular with them? I think that must only be places where they aren't legal... or places I wouldn't want to camp anyway.

Even with the greatly increased number of campers, I find those easy to avoid... but not the SxSs.

 

[bullfrog !]

How do you find places that aren't popular with them? I think that must only be places where they aren't legal... or places I wouldn't want to camp anyway.

Even with the greatly increased number of campers, I find those easy to avoid... but not the SxSs.

Many areas are forbidden for UTVs and ATVs to operate in areas where street legal four wheel drive vehicles are in the Maze and Flint Trail areas of Glen Canyon Recreational Area and Canyonlands National Park, so there are areas but these areas are usually only accessible to off road capable true 4 wheel drive vehicles. Many national parks have limited UTV and ATV use. BLM lands with established roads and previously mined or lumbered areas are having roads closed to all vehicle traffic at an accelerated rate it seems causing congestion of a sorts to the ever growing number of off road vehicles in my opinion. With the new administration areas like “The Bears Ears Monument” will most likely be reduced in size along with many others that have natural resources as they were during Trump’s first term. So better get used to seeing all sorts of activity on federal lands.

 

[twomountainlions]

How do you find places that aren't popular with them? I think that must only be places where they aren't legal... or places I wouldn't want to camp anyway.

Even with the greatly increased number of campers, I find those easy to avoid... but not the SxSs.

I just try to stick far away from hyped up places, places where there are more tourists and younger people, areas that had population influx. I dont want to camp near those anyway. Give very wide berth to "destination" types of places or known 4x4 meccas, stay far out of towns too. I go to less known places, regions where life is mostly old school and not many tourists, where regulations dont favor OHVs also. Cows are a different story...I wish there were more rules for those, cows not ohvs is what I usually see out there. Aslo have sort of a gut feeling by looking at the maps, where ohvs are going to be found, and watch out for campsite reviews mentioning them

 

[twomountainlions]

Another thing, in the cow country which is both on blm and nfs, there are often gated public roads, I find ohvs will often prefer nearby non gated routes to get to their favorite riding spots and I use this to my advantage

 

[twomountainlions]

Alaska is one of the few remaining free places, no property tax in rural locations too (eElxcept in places where lower 48 crowds already moved in, there are regulations and taxes in those like some near coast).
Cold, mosquitoes and need a "real cabin". People just live in the roadless bush.
Cold, but the freedom...may be its not bad to give up the warmth for the sense of freedom and that some rodents from the "county" wont come a-evictin' or telling how to live.

Often think about that parcel of 20 or so acres I saw near Yosemite. Killer views of cascading mountains, no neighbors in sight, that lady over 90 years old had lived there in 2 small RV trailers, one was her kitchen. Outhose somewhere in the woods. And Yosemite right there. I was told that while she is grandfathered in, new buyers would never be allowed to live like this.
I would not want to live isolated in high wildfire risk area though.
Also, would not want to live in tornado zone.
Water is the biggest deal on the parcel to me, need relatively shallow well or water body. I had that beautiful land in Arkansas with a big pond on it ( but there was a well too). Couldnt deal with tornados, there F-4 possible.

 

[rruff]

^There are places in the US that have a good year round climate where you can basically do as you like, and they are cheap. And you can get good water with a not ridiculous well depth... and no tornadoes and very little fire danger.

The whole country is subject to US federal land use and building codes, so technically it is illegal to not follow them. In practice some counties don't have any rules of their own on the books for rural land, and don't enforce or inspect.