Battery just to run A/C?

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Has anyone ever used a separate battery, and solar panel to run a A/C unit on and off?

I've been thinking a lot about how I should set up my van once I get it, and I know I want to have A/c in the vehicle but I really dont want a window unit like a few people have. So suggestions are welcome on that as well.[/align]
 
This question shows up here semi-regularly.

The short answer is that you can't fit enough solar panels and batteries in a van to make it work.

If you want A/C, you need to run a generator or plug in to shore power.

Regards
John
 
Either the watts or the amps is incorrect on that model. 8.6 amps x 110v = 946 watts. Either that or it only draws 5.3 amps to consume 580 watts. If indeed it only draws 580 watts that's not bad for that type of AC. still you will need a small generator to run it. I run a 5,000 watt window unit in my Aliner with a 1,200/1,500 watt genny with power to spare, charging my battery at the same time.

Chip
 
Definitely something about there figures is wrong!
Notice the next unit in line calls out less amp draw but more cooling power!
Need some real world values.
 
I have an 8,000 BTU window unit that draws 540 watts according to my Kill O Watt meter.

I don't know what the start up draw is though.
 
540 watts at 12 volts is 45 amps from the battery, not even counting the inefficiency of the inverter.
 
MikeRuth said:
Definitely something about there figures is wrong! Notice the next unit in line calls out less amp draw but more cooling power! Need some real world values.
I read all the "questions & answers" by the Amazon listing. Here's one of them:

Christopher Flouton said on May 14, 2014
When the unit arrived, I found out the information. Printed right on the side of the A/C unit. It is 4.6 Amps NOT 8.6 Amps. I will notify Amazon to correct the listing.

So with a 4.6 amp draw, the wattage is about 550 watts. It sounds like it might be able to work in a van.
 
it will work in a van. if you have a large enough battery bank and the way to recharge them. where will you get 50 amps steady.
 
Well to power the AC overnight too, you need more storage and even more charging amps.

Running AC on battery power alone is not really going to happen for a while yet, until better batteries and more efficient solar become affordable and widespread.
 
ccbreder said:
it will work in a van. if you have a large enough battery bank and the way to recharge them. where will you get 50 amps steady.
If I'm not mistaken, you only need 50 amps (from the batteries) when the A/C is running. Normally your A/C will run for awhile to cool the van, then sit idle for awhile, waiting for the van to warm up so it can start up again. How long it takes for the van to warm up depends on how well it is insulated (and how cold you're trying to make it).
 
Only 50 amps??

A healthy and fully charged group 27 battery could power this AC for less than an hour.

even if you have the best insulated van in existence, running an AC off battery power long enough for the desired goals, requires a Lot of battery, and a lot of recharging current applied often, to even give those batteries a chance at a respectable lifespan
 
What about ducting the cab AC to the rear? All of the off grid AC solutions i've come across have been outrageously expensive and/or impractical.
 
Or how about a medical cooling vest?
 
Never sleep in a vehicle with the engine running! Not even in an emergency!
If you ever manage to run your air conditioner over night, or just for a few hours from the battery bank, i bet you have 1000 amp hour battery and a generator to recharge.
 
I am going to make this easy. if you want ac plug in or run a generator period. nothing else is going to work satisfactory. highdesertranger
 
As many others have posted, trying to power air conditioning for an extended period of time from a battery bank that one could fit in a typical van is unrealistic. One thing that hasn't been pointed out is that you can't rely on the standard Amp-hour rating of a lead-acid battery when your load is more than its rating, in terms of C/[hours]. For most batteries that are suitable for house use, that's C/20 (i.e., a 100Ah battery can actually support a load of 5 Amps for 20 hours before going dead). If you try to use the same battery to support a 50-Amp load, it will do so for a much shorter time than 2 hours. As an example, this 100Ah AGM battery has a C/20 Amp-hour rating of 100 Ah. Use it to power a 60-Amp load, and the rating drops to 60Ah. For flooded lead-acid batteries, expect the drop in rating to be even worse, due to higher internal current resistance.

That being said, an evaporative cooler such as the TurboKool might work, depending on three conditions:

* The humidity in your area is low enough that such a cooler can effectively function

* Your need for stealth doesn't preclude having what looks like an RV roof-mounted air conditioner mounted on your van's roof

* You have enough clean water available for the TurboKool to function properly

Given its rated Amp draw of 4.6 Amps on High, 3.2 Amps on Medium, and 2.2 Amps on Low, you could reasonably expect a 100W PV panel and a 100Ah battery to power a TurboKool on Low throughout the night. Once your battery is fully recharged, you could take advantage of the power still being generated by your PV system to switch a TurboKool to Medium, until the "excess" power generated by your PV system drops back to a level needed to maintain the charge level of your battery bank.
 
Turbokool just can not work east of the Mississippi River. The humidity on average when above freezing is always too high for that tech.


Since $15 in gasoline nightly to run a generator is a high price. Your boondock location planning needs to consider being at paid campground with electric service, in comparison.

Look for the freeze warning line and hover around that geographical location.


Plus you want the freeze to kill off the fire ants and Mosquitos you would normally get.
 
Be advised that a swamp cooler like the Turbokool uses a lot of water. The hotter and drier it is the more water it uses.

This fellow found that his Turbokool used 10-15 gallons of water per day! Do you have that much extra water on board?
http://www.macandchris.com/airconditioning.htm

Chip



Chip


Here is another option if considering a small swamp cooler:
http://www.nvo.com/southwestsolar/productcatalog/item.nhtml?profile=productcatalog&UID=103
It uses 3 qts./hr. to cool 75 sq ft. - still a lot of water use - there's no way around it. This model only requires 35-45 watts of solar panels according to the manufacturer.
http://www.nvo.com/southwestsolar/resources/

It's only $329.

Chip
 
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