1983 Toyota New Horizon preparations for nomadism

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josephusminimus said:
<br />&nbsp; The suggestion about fiberglass sounds good, though I'm concerned whether it will hold.&nbsp; I'd also considered pop rivetting sheet metal over the holes with a lot of caulking underneath.&nbsp; Haven't arrived at a any conclusion about it yet.
<br />Do the research, but I think the fiberglass patch should hold just fine, maybe better than other types of repair. They repair Corvettes in a similar fashion I believe. It doesn't have to look pretty either since it is hidden from view. <img src="/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" /><br />-Bruce
 
If it wasn't raining now -- I'd&nbsp;photo the repair's I made to my vette - scuff it up with 60 grit and patch from both sides if you can -- once the outside was cured I poured a slurry of resin and chopped up mat --- like cake batter - then 4 layers of progressively larger patches <img src="/images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /><br /><br />You cant jack-up a vet by the floor boards <img src="/images/boards/smilies/rolleyes.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /><br /><br />And there's room for one more jam-nut on that spring saddle <img src="/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /><br /><br />P / S -- a vette body isn't just fiberglass -- its "FRP" ( fiberglass reinforced plastic ) Not a boat <img src="/images/boards/smilies/crazy.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" />
 
Ricekila said:
If it wasn't raining now -- I'd&nbsp;photo the repair's I made to my vette - scuff it up with 60 grit and patch from both sides if you can -- once the outside was cured I poured a slurry of resin and chopped up mat --- like cake batter - then 4 layers of progressively larger patches &lt;img src="/images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You cant jack-up a vet by the floor boards &lt;img src="/images/boards/smilies/rolleyes.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And there's room for one more jam-nut on that spring saddle &lt;img src="/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;P / S -- a vette body isn't just fiberglass -- its "FRP" ( fiberglass reinforced plastic ) Not a boat &lt;img src="/images/boards/smilies/crazy.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /&gt;

Likely a worthy approach. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
A few experiments in expanding storage, accessability, convenience from recycled materials harvested from grader ditches, thrift stores, etc.<br /><img rel="lightbox" src="http://sofarfromheavendotcom.files....at-food-storage-bad-plan1.jpg?w=500&amp;h=375" class="bbc_img" /><br /><br />Refrigerator shelves.&nbsp; Needs something at the front to keep things from coming forward, but it increased the storage space considerably.<br /><img rel="lightbox" src="http://sofarfromheavendotcom.files....op-platform-fridge-shelf1.jpg?w=500&amp;h=375" class="bbc_img" /><br /><br />Above the passenger seat, another refrigerator shelf for road atlas, maps, sundry electronic gadgetry.<br /><br />The platform is an Igloo cooler top blown off someones truck.&nbsp; Two holes for the headrest rods hold it up for the moment.&nbsp; Might have to reinforce it.<br /><br />That's going to be the surface the laptop sits on when I need to use it as a GPS.&nbsp; Naturally I'll be battening it down to hold it in place over roadway bumps and grinds.&nbsp; Also has some nice recesses to hold a cup of coffee when it's not doing GPS duty.
 
You are a braver man than I. I have an 85 toyota RV with the 22re 4 cyl. I would never try to pull anything behind mine. It can barely make it up a hill on it's own.
 
cedric said:
You are a braver man than I. I have an 85 toyota RV with the 22re 4 cyl. I would never try to pull anything behind mine. It can barely make it up a hill on it's own.
<br /><br />Cedric: Mine has plenty of climbing moxie.&nbsp; But conventional wisdom is definitely in harmony with you, rather than me insofar as pulling a trailer with it.&nbsp; I'll be more concerned with the stopping ability when it comes to it.<br /><br />Not an issue of courage as nearly as I can figure.&nbsp; <br /><br />
 
Someone commenting on my wordpress blog suggested rare earth button magnets countersunk and glued into the cabinet doors.&nbsp; Somewhere around here I have a lot of those, and if I can find them I'll give them a try today.<br /><br />Meanwhile, Hydrox, a cat of 15-18 pounds slept on this cats cradle last night without consequence.&nbsp; I think it's going to do the job I want from it.<br /><br /><img rel="lightbox" src="http://sofarfromheavendotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/cooler-top-platform1.jpg?w=500&amp;h=666" class="bbc_img" />
 
So does your rig have the automatic or standard tranny?<br />Mine has the auto with OD. I have been getting around 12 mpg.<br />Have you kept track of mpg at all?
 
cedric said:
So does your rig have the automatic or standard tranny?<br />Mine has the auto with OD. I have been getting around 12 mpg.<br />Have you kept track of mpg at all?
<br /><br />Standard shift 4 speed trannie.&nbsp; My odometer's non-functional, so I used the GPS to get the round-trip distance between where I gas up in Kerrville and where I park and live 40 miles away.&nbsp; Thus far, water and sewer tanks empty and the Onon generator removed, AC removed, it gets 16-17 miles per gallon on the trip.&nbsp; Mostly highway, but some stop and go.<br /><br />Once I put the generator back in and fill the water tank I expect that will drop a mile or two per gallon.<br /><br />The carb is after-market and I've been doing a lot of tweaking on it, which seems to help, also.&nbsp; When I first got it the carb had been taken apart by the previous owner who evidently found some extra parts didn't need to be in it.&nbsp; After I'd driven it a bit I pulled the carb off and hit-and-miss re-added what was missing until it performed better and the automatic choke was able to function.<br /><br />But all the Ralph Nader crap under the hood's un-installed, was when I got it.&nbsp; Means when I need a new inspection sticker I'll have to find the 'right kind of place' to get it done.&nbsp; But that's also probably improving the gas mileage.&nbsp; Possibly a lot.<br /><br />
 
wow that is fantastic. Mine has the fuel injection. I wonder if there is any tweaking I can do?<br />I have been trying to find things to remove that might lighten the weight of my rig.<br /><br />The cab overhead mattress is not great. I was thinking of replacing it with an air mattress.<br />I bought an ARB dc fridge/freezer so I am thinking to remove the gas/120v fridge in the back.<br />I can not get my furnace going either so I might just remove it and use a wall mount or a buddy heater if I need one. I can't think of anything else to get rid of though.<br /><br />If I can't get the mpg up I may just have to sell it and re-think what to buy.
 
The automatic's costing you a bit of mileage, but clutch-life dropped when they quit making them out of asbestos around the time mine came off the line.&nbsp; I suspect that's the reason almost all RVs now have automatic transmissions.<br /><br />Water weighs 8.5 pounds to the gallon.&nbsp; If you're parking somewhere with water, keeping that tank down to a minimum might save you a bit.&nbsp; You need to keep the blackwater tank primed with some water, but keeping that down to an inch-or-two always might improve things.&nbsp; Grey water tank can be kept entirely empty.<br /><br />But I suspect the wind resistance is something a person needs to study and try to improve in as many small ways as possible.&nbsp; The difference between having the AC on top and after removal was surprising to me, and I think a bit of that was because of that huge cowling up there.<br /><br />Incidently, I edited in a couple of things on the post above while you were writing yours, which you might have missed.<br /><br />If you are somewhere the Ralph Nader factor can be removed, partially or in total, gas mileage will improve.&nbsp; But you might have to reinstall it once a year unless you have a captive mechanic to sticker it.
 
cedric said:
wow that is fantastic. Mine has the fuel injection. I wonder if there is any tweaking I can do?<br />I have been trying to find things to remove that might lighten the weight of my rig.<br /><br />The cab overhead mattress is not great. I was thinking of replacing it with an air mattress.<br />I bought an ARB dc fridge/freezer so I am thinking to remove the gas/120v fridge in the back.<br />I can not get my furnace going either so I might just remove it and use a wall mount or a buddy heater if I need one. I can't think of anything else to get rid of though.<br /><br />If I can't get the mpg up I may just have to sell it and re-think what to buy.
<br /><br />I keep asking myself how badly I need that generator, and whether I wouldn't be as well served by just using an inverter.&nbsp; Or whether a smaller, lighter Harbor Freight generator would do the heaviest lifting I'll ever need a generator to do.&nbsp; I think I might be able to sell the Onan for enough to buy a smaller one and have some money left for other things.&nbsp; As nearly as I can figure that Onan is under there mainly to run an AC I no longer have.<br /><br />
 
Cedric:&nbsp; I've been thinking about what you said about reducing the overcab weigh.&nbsp; I'm not sure what I'm thinking is valid, but you have two different weight factors to consider.&nbsp; One is the weight on the rear axle and the distance back of the axle the lever-arm extends.&nbsp; The more weight on that arm and the further back it's distributed, the more mechanical advantage is being exerted.&nbsp; <br /><br />That weight is being offset by direct-downward weight on the front axle with almost no mechanical advantage, no lever arm.&nbsp; By reducing the weight in the overcab you might actually be lifting the frontend enough to influence performance and degrade the already lousy wind resistance.<br /><br />You might also be redistributing the weight&nbsp;from the front wheels sufficiently to reduce your braking power on the front wheels where most of the braking is designed to happen.<br /><br />I'm just speculating, but it might be something a person would want to think about, experiment with before doing anything permanent.
 
I am thinking you were probably an engineer of some sort in a former life?<br />What I gather is maybe I should remove equal weight front and rear if I decide to lighten the load. Is that correct.
 
cedric said:
I am thinking you were probably an engineer of some sort in a former life?<br />What I gather is maybe I should remove equal weight front and rear if I decide to lighten the load. Is that correct.
I'm not giving you advice about what you ought to do, or ought not to do, Cedric.&nbsp; I'm just offering up some thoughts about what a person in your position might want to consider.
 
no worries Jack. I take advice and weigh it. If it makes sense I may give it a go or not.
 
hey joseph look into a semi metalic clutch next time you need one.&nbsp; i run one in my 1 ton crew cab dually and have been very happy with the life span.&nbsp; you just don't want to slip it, either in or out.&nbsp; those 22r motors were great motors.&nbsp; toy motors went downhill from there.&nbsp; i can't believe you want to change that onan for a communist built harbor frieght.&nbsp; say it ain't so joe.&nbsp; highdesertranger
 
highdesertranger said:
hey joseph look into a semi metalic clutch next time you need one.&nbsp; i run one in my 1 ton crew cab dually and have been very happy with the life span.&nbsp; you just don't want to slip it, either in or out.&nbsp; those 22r motors were great motors.&nbsp; toy motors went downhill from there.&nbsp; i can't believe you want to change that onan for a communist built harbor frieght.&nbsp; say it ain't so joe.&nbsp; highdesertranger
<br /><br />Good info about the metalic clutch.&nbsp; Thanks.&nbsp; I'm sincerely hoping this&nbsp;clutch will last longer than I do [and am trying to assure it by driving it accordingly].&nbsp; I hate to contemplate changing it... can't even imagine what a joy it would be trying to get it far enough off the ground to slide under there and pull the tranny, then stab it back on afterward.&nbsp; I had a lot more strength in my arms the last time I did that on a vehicle, and it wasn't any fun, as I recall.<br /><br />The 22r does seem to be an object for admiration.&nbsp; I'm surprised how many people who have them and discuss them on the Toyota RV forum think they'd be better off with something else.&nbsp; The coach on this thing leaves something to be desired, but the Toyota drive train is a thing to behold.<br /><br />As for the Onan, yeah, it's another something to behold.&nbsp; If I'd never taken it out of there and felt the weight of it I doubt I'd ever have considered replacing it.&nbsp; But carrying around that kind of weight to do a job it might never need to do isn't easy to justify when weight's a consideration.<br /><br />Gracias, Jack
 
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