Umbrella Association/We Become Targets

[Moxadox]

Thanks, Moxadox.  I'll research Escapees.  Do they have any legal counseling services?
I struggled for an hour trying to find the right wording for my concerns.  That John61CT would think I was suggesting that 'some fools think dwelling should be an organized "movement"' shows I failed.
Perhaps something more of an anti-defamation league?

The thing is, Ken, that mobile dwellers tend to be extremely private individuals who get together for purposes of camaraderie and sharing, but mostly stay out in the boonies where there's plenty of nothing and nobody. We really do enjoy peace and quiet. Many of us seek this lifestyle precisely because the contentious nature of civilization is so unpleasant. I myself am of that stripe. So the very fact of this puts the idea of organization off the table. Herding cats is a piece of cake compared with trying to organize a demographic whose flag is individualism! We all scatter. My personal superpower is disappearing if I perceive I've been identified!

And yes, Escapees has attorneys you can consult.

And no, you haven't failed. You've put out a feeler and received feedback.

The Dire Wolfess

 

[lenny flank]

Meh, I've been all over the country coast to coast and border to border, and have had only one cop encounter and one security dude encounter--and both of those were friendly.

"Help, help, we're being repressed?...." I just don't see it. My two basic rules, "don't be a dick" and "don't attract attention", have done well for me so far.

 

[QinReno]

OP isn't even planning to be on the road for another year, and already he sees so many negativities that it boggles the mind. No experience + abject negativity = ????

 

[QinReno]

Meh, I've been all over the country coast to coast and border to border, and have had only one cop encounter and one security dude encounter--and both of those were friendly.

"Help, help, we're being repressed?...." I just don't see it. My two basic rules, "don't be a dick" and "don't attract attention", have done well for me so far.

lenny, offhand about how much time do you spend stealth-camping in towns and cities?

 

[John61CT]

OP isn't even planning to be on the road for another year, and already he sees so many negativities that it boggles the mind. No experience + abject negativity = ????

Which is exacerbated by certain types of posts.

Fear-mongering is the dominant tone of not just most mass media but social / web interactions as well.

500 events out of 5 million is neglible, but when everyone sees the 500 close up suddenly that activity seems crazy dangerous.

Which may be the goal, fine with me, all the fun stuff free to be enjoyed by us brave souls, everyone else can cower at home in theit living room.

 

[QinReno]

Every time I read one of those sort of posts, I am reminded of what the old trapper said to Jeremiah in the movie Jeremiah Johnson .... "Best to go down to a town, Jeremiah".

 

[QinReno]

500 events out of 5 million is neglible, but when everyone sees the 500 close up suddenly that activity seems crazy dangerous.

Everyone is terrified of bears, whereas there have been many more people killed by bee stings and lightning strikes, as well the 40,000 who die on the highway every single year. Fear mongering works, too bad.

 

[Moxadox]

Since my policy is to be where others are not, the more people are scared to be in the boonies, the more peace and quiet for me. Selfish, selfish me ;-D

The Dire Wolfess

 

[LivGolden]

Seriously, if camping in Bear country, I would recommend a bear-safety course. I took one in Jackson Hole, WY, a few years back. I passed with flying colors, as did all of the other 9 year olds. That same evening I took another camper's dog on an evening stroll and wouldn't you know it, we were met,face to face, on trailhead, with a sow! I knew exactly what to do !
Even so, I still ran like a crazy lady!!! Fortunately, so did the bear - in the other direction!!! My point is- it's going to happen , eventually. How you react is going to be a big thing. Just be aware - that is all you can do. But don't let what might happen prevent you from living your life! Don't be a victim to fear-mongering. If you can't help it - "Go to town, Jeremiah!"

 

[QinReno]

Since my policy is to be where others are not, the more people are scared to be in the boonies, the more peace and quiet for me.  Selfish, selfish me ;-D

Actually, the 2 most feared things in the back country are a Dire She Wolf and HDR. That'll scare anyone back to town.

 

[Moxadox]

Actually, the 2 most feared things in the back country are a Dire She Wolf and HDR. That'll scare anyone back to town.

Ah, thank you, thank you (stretches, preens fur).

The Dire Wolfess

 

[highdesertranger]

hey wait a minute, my camp is always a refuge in the bleak wilderness. nothing to be afraid of. now I realize if you were just to happen upon my camp you might be a little scared, LOL highdesertranger

 

[jimindenver]

Depends on if Timmy is there or not. He looks all happy and harmless cuz that's what he wants you to think.

 

[highdesertranger]

I just heard from Timmy, he will be there. come to think of it, it is kinda of scary. highdesertranger

 

[lenny flank]

lenny, offhand about how much time do you spend stealth-camping in towns and cities?

Every night for three and a half years now. 

Though to be fair, I don't park in places where I am actively not wanted.

 

[crofter]

The other day I parked in a state park day area, way out back. It was too crowded for me, so I waited a bit. Instead of going to see what I was there to see I took an old lady nap for a bit. In between snores, I opened one eye and came face to face with some guy peering in my window saying, "It's one of Theeeeeem!!!" I ignored his comment, and he and his friends went away, after writing down my license plate number. 

When my old lady nap was over, I got out of my rig and looked around, only two cars left. I met those people coming back up the trail, and had the whole place to myself for my visit there. It was serene and beautiful, and I was glad I waited.

The peeper is never going to change, or to apologise for his rude comment or behavior ( illegal behavior?).  I am not going to pursue reporting the matter to any authority. I like my windows uncovered so I can see out, so I am not hiding behind blackout curtains at noon. I parked away from the others as a "sign" to leave me alone, but it didn't work this time.

Things are going to happen. Toughen up sister.    ~crofter

 

[Dingfelder]

That's kinda creepy, to say the least.  Glad it didn't turn out worse for you.

I don't know what's wrong with people to the extent, sometimes, that I suspect something must be wrong with me.

 

[Moxadox]

Not a thing wrong with Ding. You be just fine. Problem is that rudeness has become the norm. They compete to see who is the rudest. Kind of like 14 year old boys trying to light farts. Except in this case it's not good clean fun--it's harassment. The OP now knows exactly what animals in a zoo must feel like when the lovely humans tap on the glass and make asinine comments.

The Dire Wolfess

 

[John61CT]

In an insane world, a sane man must appear insane.

 

[crofter]

I just hate it when they tap on the glass.    ~crofter