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it seems it is true, and it is an evolving technology that will be fought to keep the prices of fossil fuels up there!..... by the time this gets watered down into a doable processes for the public to reap the benefits  i fear we will be long gone!
<br /><br />Aside from wild speculation and assertion, none of us here is capable of offering a valid judgement.&nbsp; If we took a vote and all agreed it's true, or were unanimous believing it isn't, the actuality would remain unchanged and as likely to be one way as the other.
 
am sure there are several articles in www.snopes.com about the fake engines that can run on water. &nbsp;What we need is to separate the process.<br /><br />1) &nbsp;a Hydrogen generator -compressor that can fill safe tanks with hydrogen. &nbsp;The safe transport tank is the issue, as the hydrogen will kill you upon explosion.<br /><br />2) &nbsp;weight effeicient hydrogen motor. &nbsp;that can burn this and get maximum movement. &nbsp;This si actually possible.
 
offroad said:
<br />1) &nbsp;a Hydrogen generator -compressor that can fill safe tanks with hydrogen. &nbsp;The safe transport tank is the issue, as the hydrogen will kill you upon explosion.<br /><br />2) &nbsp;weight effeicient hydrogen motor. &nbsp;that can burn this and get maximum movement. &nbsp;This si actually possible.
<br /><br />1]&nbsp; Pure oxygen and pure hydrogen exit the generator.&nbsp; Pure oxygen is corrosive enough to require it to be bled off immediately, or that stainless steel be the only material allowed to contact it.&nbsp; Bleeding it off is easy enough by just using a vertical cylinder with a hole a third of the way down.&nbsp; The hydrogen will accumulate at the top and push the oxygen downward until it's forced out the bleeder hole.&nbsp; The hydrogen, meanwhile, provides pressure of its own at the top of the cylinder.&nbsp; If the cylinder has enough volume to provide sufficient hydrogen to run the engine 15-20 minutes, that's probably as far a a person needs to go insofar as storing hydrogen under pressure.<br /><br />2]&nbsp; A stainless steel vessel containing stainless steel&nbsp;plates spaced carefully apart submerged in water will serve for the hydrogen generator.&nbsp; But the volume of water filling those spaces increases the time it takes for the generator to begin generating hydrogen.&nbsp; Filling the spaces with glass marbles or beads speeds things up by reducing the volume of water.&nbsp; But it means cleaning the thing out will be a time consuming chore.<br /><br />3]&nbsp; If the oxygen is dumped as waste by bleeding it off the bottom of the hydrogen cylinder a carb and air injection ahead of the intake manifold will be needed to provide enough oxygen for combustion.&nbsp; But it removes the corrosive pure oxygen from the equation, at least.<br /><br />
 
josephusminimus said:
it seems it is true, and it is an evolving technology that will be fought to keep the prices of fossil fuels up there!..... by the time this gets watered down into a doable&nbsp;processes for the public to reap the&nbsp;benefits&nbsp; i fear we will be long gone!
<br /><br />Aside from wild speculation and assertion, none of us here is capable of offering a valid judgement.&nbsp; If we took a vote and all agreed it's true, or were unanimous believing it isn't, the actuality would remain unchanged and as likely to be one way as the other.
<br /><br />I am unsure which part is WILD speculation or assertion, my comment comes from research into the article....<br /><br />The US patient office has the Ohio University as patient holder for such technology, so it does seem to be a&nbsp;valid&nbsp;research&nbsp;behind the claim.<br /><br />Billion Dollar corporations have invested way to much money into keep the public&nbsp;dependent&nbsp;on their products, a product such as URINE obviously is very&nbsp;easily&nbsp;attainable,&nbsp;sustainable&nbsp;and free, would be very dangerous to their livelihood, therefore a very obvious conclusion would be their bid to buy the&nbsp;technology patient, and sit on it forever, (as they have done this with other patients), and patients that could not be bought have been&nbsp;drudged&nbsp;through the courts to the point where their holders could no longer fight back.&nbsp;There is most certainly technology for vehicles to get 70+ mpg, has been for 40+ years and quashed by big brother and their backers, the fear was the tip of economic ramifications.&nbsp;<br /><br />We as a country have become top heavy and like all corporations that have become top heavy they crumble under the weight.&nbsp;<br /><br />This technology will become a reality someday I am sure, and most likely will not be human urine, but animal. like with&nbsp;ethanol, it will somehow become extremely costly. This is not just my opinion, this is history repetition.<br /><br /><br /><br />&nbsp;
 
<span style="font-size: x-small;">Billion Dollar corporations have invested way to much money into keep the public&nbsp;dependent&nbsp;on their products, a product such as URINE obviously is very&nbsp;easily&nbsp;attainable,&nbsp;sustainable&nbsp;and free, would be very dangerous to their livelihood, therefore a very obvious conclusion would be their bid to buy the&nbsp;technology patient, and sit on it forever, (as they have done this with other patients), and patients that could not be bought have been&nbsp;drudged&nbsp;through the courts to the point where their holders could no longer fight back.&nbsp;There is most certainly technology for vehicles to get 70+ mpg, has been for 40+ years and quashed by big brother and their backers, the fear was the tip of economic ramifications.&nbsp;</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: x-small;">We as a country have become top heavy and like all corporations that have become top heavy they crumble under the weight.&nbsp;</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: x-small;">This technology will become a reality someday I am sure, and most likely will not be human urine, but animal. like with&nbsp;ethanol, it will somehow become extremely costly. This is not just my opinion, this is history repetition.</span><br /><br />
</span><br /><br />&nbsp;[/quote]<br /><br />What's the patent number, or patent application number?&nbsp; The nearest I've found to anything in the neighborhood isn't close at all.&nbsp; No urine:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20120169066/claims.html">http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20120169066/claims.html</a><br /><br /><h4>
</h4><h4><strong>Claims</strong></h4><h4><br /><strong>1. An electric power generator comprising: (a) first and second water tanks; (b) first and second chambers movable up and down inside the first and second water tanks respectively in opposite directions, each chamber comprising a top wall having an air outlet covered by a pressure valve, and a bottom wall having a plurality of apertures serving as both <a id="KonaLink0" class="kLink" style="position: static; text-decoration: underline !important;" href="http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20120169066/claims.html"><span style="position: static; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #f26522 !important; font-size: 12px;"><span class="kLink" style="position: relative; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #f26522 !important; font-size: 12px;">water </span><span class="kLink" style="position: relative; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #f26522 !important; font-size: 12px;">inlets</span></span></a> and outlets; (c) an electric motor drivably connected to first and second chains from which the first and second chambers are hung respectively; (d) an upper electromagnetic holding device provided at top of each water tank for holding the chamber therein at the top where its pressure valve is opened, water is drawn into the chamber through the apertures and air is expelled out of the chamber through the air outlet, and for releasing the chamber thereby allowing it to drop by gravity to the bottom of the water tank and pull the chain to drive the electric motor; and (e) a lower electromagnetic holding device provided at the bottom of each water tank for holding the chamber therein at the bottom where its pressure valve is closed, air is pumped into the chamber and water is expelled out of the chamber through the apertures, and for releasing the chamber thereby allowing it to float by buoyancy to the top of the water tank; (f) whereby continuous up and down movement of the first and second chambers in opposite directions alternately and continuously drives the electric motor to generate electric power. </strong><br /><br /><strong>2. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 1, further comprising a plurality of ear loops formed around the periphery of each chamber and a plurality of vertical guide posts formed inside each water tank, the vertical guide posts being inserted through corresponding ear loops for slidable engagement therewith. </strong><br /><br /><strong>3. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 1, further comprising an air inlet pipe provided at the bottom of each water tank through which air is pumped into each chamber, the air inlet pipe being insertable into the chamber through a central opening formed at the center of the bottom wall of the chamber. </strong><br /><br /><strong>4. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 1, wherein each water tank has a height of at least 30 meters. </strong><br /><br /><strong>5. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 1, wherein the first and second water tanks and the first and second chambers are cylindrical in shape. </strong><br /><br /><strong>6. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 5, wherein each chamber has a height of about 1 meter and a diameter of about 2 meters. </strong><br /><br /><strong>7. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 1, wherein the weight of the first chamber is the same as the weight of the second chamber. </strong><br /><br /><strong>8. An electric power generator comprising: (a) first and second chambers movable up and down inside two columns of water respectively in opposite directions, each chamber comprising a top wall having an air outlet covered by a pressure valve, and a bottom wall having a plurality of apertures serving as both water inlets and outlets; (b) an electric motor drivably connected to first and second chains from which the first and second chambers are hung respectively; (c) an upper electric holding device provided at top of each column of water for holding the chamber therein at the top where its pressure valve is opened, water is drawn into the chamber through the apertures and air is expelled out of the chamber through the air outlet, and for releasing the chamber thereby allowing it to drop by gravity to the bottom of the column of water and pull the chain to drive the electric motor; and (d) a lower electric holding device provided at the bottom of each column of water for holding the chamber therein at the bottom where its pressure valve is closed, air is pumped into the chamber and water is expelled out of the chamber through the apertures, and for releasing the chamber thereby allowing it to float by buoyancy to the top of the column of water; (e) whereby continuous up and down movement of the first and second chambers in opposite directions alternately and continuously drives the electric motor to generate electric power. </strong><br /><br /><strong>9. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 8, further comprising a plurality of ear loops formed around the periphery of each chamber and a plurality of vertical guide posts formed inside each column of water, the vertical guide posts being inserted through corresponding ear loops for slidable engagement therewith. </strong><br /><br /><strong>10. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 8, further comprising an air inlet pipe provided at the bottom of each column of water through which air is pumped into each chamber, the air inlet pipe being insertable into the chamber through a central opening formed at the center of the bottom wall of the chamber. </strong><br /><br /><strong>11. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 8, wherein each column of water has a height of at least 30 meters. </strong><br /><br /><strong>12. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 8, wherein each column of water is contained in a water tank. </strong><br /><br /><strong>13. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 12, wherein the water tanks and the chambers are cylindrical in shape. </strong><br /><br /><strong>14. The electric power generator as claimed in claim 13, wherein each chamber has a height of about 1 meter and a diameter of about 2 meters. </strong><br /><br /><strong>15. A method of generating electric power comprising the steps of: (a) providing a first chamber movable up and down inside a first water tank, the first chamber comprising a top wall having an air outlet covered by a first pressure valve, and a bottom wall having a plurality of apertures serving as both water inlets and outlets; (b) providing an electric motor drivably connected to a first chain from which the first chamber is hung; (c) providing upper and lower electric holding devices at top and bottom of the first water tank respectively for holding or releasing the first chamber; (d) de-activating the upper electric holding device of the first water tank that is holding the first chamber at the top of the first water tank, thereby allowing the first chamber to drop by gravity to the bottom of the first water tank and pull the first chain to drive the electric motor and generate electric power; (e) activating the lower electric holding device of the first water tank to hold the first chamber at the bottom of the first water tank, and pumping air into the first chamber thereby expelling water out of the first chamber through the apertures; (f) de-activating the lower electric holding device of the first water tank thereby allowing the first chamber to float by buoyancy back to the top of the first water tank; (g) activating the upper electric holding device of the first water tank to hold the first chamber at the top of the first water tank, and opening the first pressure valve thereby drawing water into the first chamber through the apertures and expelling air out of the first chamber through the air outlet; and (h) repeating the steps (d) to (g). </strong><br /><br /><strong>16. The method as claimed in claim 15, further comprising the steps of: (a) providing a second chamber movable up and down inside a second water tank, the second chamber comprising a top wall having an air outlet covered by a pressure valve, and a bottom wall having a plurality of apertures serving as both water inlets and outlets; (b) drivably connecting the electric motor to a second chain from which the second chamber is hung; (c) providing upper and lower electric holding devices at top and bottom of the second water tank respectively for holding or releasing the second chamber; (d) de-activating the upper electric holding device of the second water tank that is holding the second chamber at the top of the second water tank, thereby allowing the second chamber to drop by gravity to the bottom of the second water tank and pull the second chain to drive the electric motor and generate electric power; (e) activating the lower electric holding device of the second water tank to hold the second chamber at the bottom of the second water tank, and pumping air into the second chamber through the air inlet provided at the bottom of the second water tank thereby expelling water out of the second chamber through the apertures; (f) de-activating the lower electric holding device of the second water tank thereby allowing the second chamber to float by buoyancy back to the top of the second water tank; (g) activating the upper electric holding device of the second water tank to hold the second chamber at the top of the second water tank, and opening the second pressure valve thereby drawing water into the second chamber through the apertures and expelling air out of the second chamber through the air outlet; and (h) repeating the steps (d) to (g) such that the continuous up and down movement of the first and second chambers in opposite directions alternately and continuously drive the electric motor to generate electric power. </strong><br /><br /><strong>17. The method as claimed in claim 16, wherein when the pressure valve of the first chamber is open, the pressure valve of the second chamber is closed, and vice versa. </strong><br /><br /><strong>18. The method as claimed in claim 16, wherein the upper electric holding device of the first chamber and the lower electric holding device of the second chamber are activated or deactivated simultaneously; and the upper electric holding device of the second chamber and the lower electric holding device of the first chamber are activated or de-activated simultaneously. </strong><br /><br /><strong>19. The method as claimed in claim 16, wherein when the upper electric holding device of the first chamber and the lower electric holding device of the second chamber are activated, the upper electric holding device of the second chamber and the lower electric holding device of the first chamber are de-activated, and vice versa. </strong><br /><br /><strong>20. The method as claimed in claim 16, wherein the electric holding devices are electromagnetic holding devices, whereby the chambers are held by electromagnetic force generated by the electromagnetic holding devices.</strong>
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http://e3cleantechnologies.com/technology<br /><br /><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">E3's core product is the GreenBox<span style="vertical-align: baseline; font-style: inherit; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">&trade;</span>. Through a patented, low energy electrolysis process, the GreenBox<span style="vertical-align: baseline; font-style: inherit; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">&trade;</span>&nbsp;integrates with wastewater treatment facilities to convert the ammonia and urea in wastewater into hydrogen, nitrogen, and clean water.</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">Ammonia is considered a serious&nbsp;threat to the environment. 
Ammonia in wastewater (e.g., agricultural, industrial, municipal) is&nbsp;a major cause of ammonia emissions into the atmosphere. Excessive levels in water lead to algae blooms, creating dead zones,&nbsp;and disrupting local ecosystems. (<a style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; color: #007f0e; text-decoration: initial;" href="http://www.dnr.state.md.us/bay/monitoring/mon_mngmt_actions/chapter2.html">See Chesapeake Bay Crisis</a>.)</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">GreenBox<span style="vertical-align: baseline; font-style: inherit; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">&trade;</span>&nbsp;technology efficiently&nbsp;<a style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; color: #007f0e; text-decoration: initial;" href="http://e3cleantechnologies.com/technology">removes ammonia</a>&nbsp;from wastewater, while producing fuel cell quality hydrogen gas for use in non-polluting heat or electrical production.
 The GreenBox<span style="vertical-align: baseline; font-style: inherit; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">&trade;</span>&nbsp;can be adapted to existing wastewater treatment systems. The hydrogen by-product provides a no-cost, emission-free, supplemental energy source. It can also be deployed as a stand-alone unit to&nbsp;treat ammonia in industrial applications.</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="color: #565656; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">The technology can also be integrated with a&nbsp;</span></span><a style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; color: #007f0e; text-decoration: initial;" href="http://e3cleantechnologies.com/applications">Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR)</a><span style="color: #565656; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">&nbsp;system to eliminate the smog-producing oxides of nitrogen (NOx) from diesel and coal power plant exhaust. The electrochemical process of the GreenBox</span></span><span style="vertical-align: baseline; font-style: inherit; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">&trade;</span><span style="color: #565656; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">&nbsp;allows for operation (and therefore NOx cleanup) over a broader temperature range than traditional liquid injection systems used in mobile applications.</span></span><br /><br /><br /><br /><span style="color: #565656; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">http://www.techgrowthohio.com/docs/Turning pee into power is mission of E3 Clean Technologies.pdf</span><br /><br /></span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">Innovation &amp; Job News</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">Turning &ldquo;pee&rdquo; into power is mission of E3 Clean Technologies</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">THURSDAY, MARCH 10, 2011</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">E3 Clean Technologies wants to turn your pee into</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">power.</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">Gerardine Botte, a professor of biomolecular and</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">chemical engineering at Ohio University, has</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">developed technology to create energy from the</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">ammonia found in human and animal organic waste.</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">She is the founder of Athens-based E3 Clean Technologies and is developing her</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">"SCR GreenBox," the product that will harness the technology for distribution, at</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">the Ohio University Innovation Center.</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">Kent Shields, CEO of E3, says that the GreenBox has potential in several</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">markets, wastewater treatment, agriculture, the military, electronics</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">manufacturing, and power plant management.</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">The GreenBox works by using a patented low-energy electrolysis process that</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">converts ammonia and urea in wastewater to hydrogen, nitrogen and pure water,</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">says Shields. The box also produces hydrogen energy.</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">"This unit works similar to a battery," he says. "We break down ammonia and</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">turn it into clean energy."</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">A large GreenBox that could be used by a municipal wastewater treatment</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">facility would be about the size of a tractor trailer, says Shields. A smaller unit</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">that might be used in a small manufacturing facility would be about the size of a</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">Home Features News Focus Companies Places JobsTurning &ldquo;pee&rdquo; into power is mission of E3 Clean Technologies 10/19/11 9:18 AM</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">http://www.hivelocitymedia.com/innovationnews/Peepower3_10_11.aspx Page 2 of 2</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">refrigerator. The company estimates that the device could reduce the operational</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">costs for reducing ammonia from wastewater by 60 percent.</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">E3 has received early stage funding of $350,000 from TechGROWTH Ohio,</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">a technology funding program backed by the Ohio Third Frontier initiative. Preproduction GreenBox units could be ready by early 2012, says Shields. Within the</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">next three years the company could hire up to 30 engineers and field technicians</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">as it goes to market. He estimates that as many as double that number of jobs</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">could be created through the manufacturing process for the product, for which</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">E3 will contract with local companies.</span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span><span style="color: #565656; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">Source: Kent Shields, E3 Clean Technologies</span></span><br /><br /><br /><br /><span style="color: #565656; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">http://www.greenboxna.com/environmental_impact_greenbox_attributes.php<br /><br /><br /></span></span></span></p><table style="color: #000000; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start; background-color: #5a9342;" width="835" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" width="418"><table width="380" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="13" align="center"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" align="left"><span class="heading" style="font-size: 20px; color: #d47918; font-weight: bold;">Environmental Impact<br /></span><br />&bull;&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;Plant produces lowest carbon food print products available in the market today.<br /><br />&bull; <span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;requires no outside sourced electricity or natural gas<br /><br />&bull; <span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;requires no effluent water treatment, has Zero waste water discharge, and the lowest water usage in the industry.<br /><br />&bull; <span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;Plant requires no solid waste disposal permit as nothing goes to landfill.<br /><br />&bull; <span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;operates with a minor source air permit.<br /><br /><br /><span class="heading" style="font-size: 20px; color: #d47918; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;Attributes&nbsp;</span><br /><br /><strong>1)</strong> Each&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;will certify reclamation of 171,000 tons of fast food waste from landfills.<br />&bull; 520 tons per day, 23 semi-trailers per day, 365 days per year<br />&bull; Zero effluent waste water discharge (post production)<br />&bull; Zero landfill of the 171,000 incoming waste tons<br /><br /><strong>2)</strong> Each&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;will make 72,000 tons annually of high quality white and brown pulp.<br />&bull; White pulp will be manufactured into tissue and 600 million cup products<br />&bull; White tissue products of bath, facial, napkins and towels-1,470,000 cases/yr<br />&bull; Brown tissue products-napkins and towels-1,190,000 cases/yr&nbsp;<br />&bull; ONLY 100% post-consumer white and brown tissue product manufacturer.<br /><br /><strong>3)</strong>&nbsp;Each&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;will reclaim Styrofoam containers into new Styrofoam containers and cups.<br /><br /><strong>4)</strong> Each&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;holds seven patents, 11 Intellectual Property technologies that could be patented. The system will hold its industry leading technology advantage for years.&nbsp;<br /><br /><strong>5)</strong>&nbsp;Each&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;will save over 1,000,000 trees each and every year of operations.</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" width="417"><table width="380" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="13" align="center"><tbody><tr><td colspan="3" align="right"><a href="http://www.greenboxna.com/index.php">Back to Home Page</a></td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" align="left" valign="top"><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><strong>6)</strong> Each&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;can produce over 16,000,000 gallons annually of renewable, ASTM D975 diesel fuel<br /><br /><div align="center">or</div><br /><strong>7)</strong> Each&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;can produce over 380,000,000 cubic feet annually of renewable processed gas, which has near natural gas BTU content..<br /><br /><div align="center">or</div><br /><strong>8)</strong> Each&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;can produce over (9.2) Megawatts of electricity (enough to power 9600 households).<br /><br /><strong>9)</strong> The&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;will be marketed as the answer to 100% Reclamation/Sustainability of fast food, stadium, theme parks, universities, arenas and other waste stream providers.<br /><br /><strong>10)</strong> The&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;cost of obtaining the 100% Reclamation/Sustainability certification and landfill rights to the 171,000 annual tons of fast food waste will be offset by an energy/fuel rebate of equal amount. Therefore, the provider of waste materials will have reduced freight and no landfill tipping fees.<br /><br /><strong>11)</strong> The&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;will allow its waste stream providers to be positioned as leading environmental stewards while saving costs, saving trees, zero effluent waste water discharge and zero landfill use.&nbsp;<br /><br /><strong>12)</strong> The&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;process will recycle post-consumer poly-coated paper cups of which currently 120 billion paper cups are used annually. The post-consumer paper cups will have zero waste water discharge and zero waste to landfill.<br /><br /><strong>13)</strong> The&nbsp;<span style="color: #009900;"><strong>Green Box</strong></span>&nbsp;will instill environmental pride for the corporate user and their customers for generations to come. What a great marketing attribute!<br /><br /><strong>14)</strong> Fast food waste stream sustainability while just a short time ago was a dream, is now a reality. Zero Discharge/100% Certified Reclamation Process/No landfill required/ No Effluent Water Discharged.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;"><span></span></p><p style="vertical-align: baseline; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; border: none; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.85em; line-height: 21px; color: #565656; background-color: #ededed;">&nbsp;</p>
 
If it's your horse and you like the gait, it's all right by me, amigo.&nbsp; I hope it saves the world.<br /><br />Nothing that removes contaminants from sewage water thoroughly and cheaply can be anything but an improvement.&nbsp; What they're discharging now for the drinkers in&nbsp;downstream cities isn't anything to be coveted.
 
josephusminimus said:
If it's your horse and you like the gait, it's all right by me, amigo.&nbsp; I hope it saves the world.<br /><br />Nothing that removes contaminants from sewage water thoroughly and cheaply can't be anything but an improvement.&nbsp; What they're discharging now for the drinkers in&nbsp;downstream cities isn't anything to be coveted.
 

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