Dingfelder
Well-known member
AreWeLostYet said:
Everything fails. Life ends in death, and even universes can die. So what? Still might as well try.
Rob says nomads telling you to join them, are only trying to justify their lifestyle.
- Thread starter AreWeLostYet
- Start date
Help Support Van Living Forum:
Everything fails. Life ends in death, and even universes can die. So what? Still might as well try.
Dingfelder said:
Learning how to live more cheaply and with less crap is hardly a .... utopia .... dream.
I'm sure that a lot of people here were actually alive during the 60s and 70s, and weren't simply born "yesterday", so they learned a long time ago what the System is really all about. The many anti-System "movements" of the 60s and 70s terrified the power brokers, so they came up with a solution: inflation. When it costs $1800 for rent instead of $100, it's easy to control the ahh ... whatjamacallems.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/a5/f4/ba/...b8ecc94b4--baby-ducks-beautiful-creatures.jpg
crofter
Well-known member
sreesekelley said:
Um, I think it's all those add thingys all over his page. Also, he is prob getting a kickback from Tammi and others who don't want us to have any fun, just work till we die in the traces.
As for me and my house, we will drive my van.
To the RTR.
~ crofter
C-Cat
Well-known member
LOL, who cares what "Rob" says... who is that anyway?
waldenbound
Well-known member
- Joined
- Mar 19, 2015
- Messages
- 668
- Reaction score
- 4
I see you all met Mr Sunshine, my name for Rob.
Talking trash about nomad living and probably watching dollars rolling in.
Talking trash about nomad living and probably watching dollars rolling in.
Humanity has not always been chasing its tail to get more.
History is modified to make people think consumerism and corporatism is normal historical human behavior.
Opting out is a hidden choice.
"Opting In" is never presented as a choice. It is the default by design. Citizen by Birth.
"Rob" is just another agent of disinformation on the Internet.
History is modified to make people think consumerism and corporatism is normal historical human behavior.
Opting out is a hidden choice.
"Opting In" is never presented as a choice. It is the default by design. Citizen by Birth.
"Rob" is just another agent of disinformation on the Internet.
Dingfelder
Well-known member
I had a dream last night in which I effectively lived a kind of opting out. It was post- the kind of apocalypse in which only humans had died, except two of my friends. We had been trying to figure out how to secure together a series of disconnected and open-ended but structurally still fairly intact corridors strewn randomly about the ground, the only housing available, from the weather to create a livable space. We finally figured out how to seal everything up and almost exactly when we realized how to solve the problem, I randomly looked to one side down one of the corridors and saw the enormous head of a grizzly bear move up into its frame.
We can only opt out so much, because we are part of the world.
We can only opt out so much, because we are part of the world.
Ding, you might be interested in watching "10 Cloverfield Lane" (2016) the movie. Almost exactly congruent with your dream. Amazingly, the only radio channel that was working had Rob on it, can you believe. (oops, gave away the surprise ending, JK).Dingfelder said:
Also, Cloverfield (2008), earlier in the same genre. Nice dystopic, end-of-the-world stuff - if you're game. You can watch clips from both on youtube.
Dingfelder
Well-known member
QinReno said:
I've seen both. Liked them!
Dingfelder
Well-known member
LivGolden said::s :-/
A variation on Man Proposes, God Disposes. It was a commentary on the idea of truly "opting out" given in a previous post and how truly independent of the world we can ever really be. In the dream, I and the others thought we finally had it licked. We were going to be safe. The only thing we didn't take into account was that it wasn't just us who existed, fixated on our plots and needs, but the rest of the world as well. That the rest of the world intruded in the form of a giant grizzly bear to put the kibosh on everything was the luck of the draw. But I think the dream was really about the principle, about the comeuppance you set yourself up for with hubris.
I'm definitely one of those who wants to be independent, but do it with quality broadband and virtually everything I ever use, eat, drink, drive, or wear built, maintained, and probably repaired or replaced eventually by somebody else despite my small personal efforts. Even a complete hermit has to depend on the rest of the world, if only to leave him alone. Even those fleeing society are held together almost entirely by it.
[font=Garamond, Baskerville,]But Mousie, thou art no thy-lane, [/font]Dingfelder said:
[font=Garamond, Baskerville,]In proving foresight may be vain: [/font]
[font=Garamond, Baskerville,]The best laid schemes o’ Mice an’ Men [/font]
[font=Garamond, Baskerville,] Gang aft agley, [/font]
[font=Garamond, Baskerville,]An’ lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain, [/font]
[font=Garamond, Baskerville,] For promis’d joy! [/font]
Dingfelder
Well-known member
I never knew the source for that was not Steinbeck until now, thanks.
Most of life's important lessons look to be shared amongst the whole species through time, though with every life they feel freshly discovered.
Most of life's important lessons look to be shared amongst the whole species through time, though with every life they feel freshly discovered.
Poor little mousies live in their nice little comfy dens, and then one day the Great Plow in the Sky comes and digs up their field, LOL.Dingfelder said:
Speaking of Steinbeck, couple of days ago I noticed a thread that cyndi had written. Turns out some guy researched JS's book "Travels With Charley" which I had read years ago, and discovered that much of it was just made-up stories. So, the First Great-RVer turns out to be at least a partial fraud. Oh well, we still have Hemingway.
Dingfelder
Well-known member
QinReno said:
Oh well, people have said the same about innumerable authors. Thoreau has been criticized for not being truly legit about taking on the forest. Few idols aren't made of glass.
Stephen King, is among the many who have warned, to paraphrase, "Don't meet your idols."
I think I would have said: "He was all about good stories after all". I just checked on whether JS had ever written any non-fiction. Seems he did, although maybe it was ALL made-up too, LOL. Easier to sit at home and imagine than to go on the road and experience.John61CT said:
https://www.shmoop.com/john-steinbeck/nonfiction.html
At least we know that Hemingway did experience the Spanish Civil War, WW1, did ride into Paris with some of the first army guys when there were still german snipers on the rooftops, did have TWO airplane crashes in Africa, and did go to China. He is shown grinning in a lot of pictures.
http://time.com/3961119/birthday-ernest-hemingway-history-death/
http://www.thatsmags.com/shanghai/post/17793/this-day-in-history-ernest-hemingway-visits-china
Hmmm, I wonder if Rob has ever been in a real RV.
