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I would like to add a meter that keeps track of the amp hours going in and out of my battery bank. Does any one have experience in buying / sourcing one of these meters? I have found them from $200 and up. It seems there should be a cheaper way. any links or advice appreciated.<br><br>thanks<br>rick<br><br>edited for readability
 
I'm not sure of your exact intentions, but I find it very simple to measure the juice in my battery with a voltage meter...&nbsp; I think I paid 6 bucks for a basic one that has a green, yellow, and red light telling you where you are, but I also have a digital one to measure exactly where I'm at. <BR><BR>A full battery could be as high as 14.7 volts when charging, anything under 12 and youre in the red.<BR><BR>If you are trying for something more complicated than just checking how much juice you've got, then I'm sorry I can't be of much help. I suppose you could get out a Voltage meter, pen, and&nbsp;paper and do the math but what a pain...<BR><BR>
 
Thanks Noah, I do have a volt meter but want to track it a little closer.<br><br>wrc68, I don't mind the math if it is as easy as I think. So I would put one between the controller and the battery and the other meter on any wire leaving the battery that draws current? Then all I would do is subtract the out meters from the in meters?<br><br>I have read a bit about this online solar forums but they all seem to suggest including a shunt but I am not clear what to do with the shunt. Like where it fits in the wiring setup. If there is anyone who has time and would like to draw a simple wiring diagram it would help me a lot. There is nothing like a visual.<br><br>thanks for theadvice<br>rick
 
Thanks for the <span id="post_message_1277632976">Trimetric link. t</span>he <span id="post_message_1277632976">Trimetric seems like what I am looking to accomplish but at $160 plus $95 for the wiring harness is a bit much for me right now.<br></span>
 
That "wiring harness" package at $95 is a lousy deal. Figure paying more like $20-25 for the shunt and then a few bucks for wire and connectors. They're charging around $70 for some wire, a fuse holder, and some tie straps!

Here's just the Trimetric shunt by itself, and this page also gives a good explanation of what a shunt does and how it wires into your system:

http://www.altestore.com/store/Mete...nts/Bogart-Engineering-500A-50mV-Shunt/p4638/

 
The Turnigy meters only monitor current flowing in one direction, and only go up to 66 amps hours or something. &nbsp;TWO would need to be installed inline and reset periodically and the math done. &nbsp;The cables are not really heavy enough to run the alternator current through them either, certainly not starter current, and there is no way to read alternator current without reading starter current. &nbsp;If you are not charging the house batteries with the alternator, the turnigy meters can be effective.<br><br>You are better off with the trimetric.<br><br>I have the &nbsp;Blue Sky IPN pro remote which works in conjunction with my solar charge controller(sb2512i). &nbsp;It uses the same shunt as posted above. &nbsp;All ground wires which normally went to the Negative battery terminal must go to one side of this shunt. &nbsp;The other side goes to the battery (-), and nothing else can &nbsp;goto the battery(-) or it will not be measured.<br><br>Voltage readings to determine state of charge are only accurate on a rested battery, one which has not been charged or discharged for several hours, but with enough readings at different stages of discharge, one can get a rough idea of the state of charge, but nothing beats an amp hour counter, and nothing else even comes close.
 
Well I learned something new today!&nbsp; What an informative thread...<BR><BR>I wonder what I'll learn tomorrow...
 
psytechguy, thanks for the link the info help me quite a bit.<br><br>wrc68, I don't use the alternator to charge the house batteries currently.<br>I have a 250 watt solar panel feeding into a BX mppt 500 controller with wire running from the controller to the battery. I will be adding a 2nd battery. They are deep cycle marine batteries from Walmart. Each battery is 105 ah so I will have 210 ah. I want to restrict my amp use to 60 amps per day. So could I buy one turnigy meter. <br><br>I'm a bit confused by the wiring though. There are red and black wires on either side of the meter. I think I read correctly that I disconnect all my wires that are on the neg. lug. I would connect the black wire from one side of the turnigy to the neg lug of my battery. Then connect the black wire from the other side of the turnigy to the wires I previously removed from the neg side of the battery. correct?? Now what do I do with the red wires? and do I still buy a shunt??<br><br>thanks so much for your patients<br>Rick
 
I have never installed a Turnigy nor seen the directions so can't really say how they are wired. &nbsp;They do not require a separate shunt though. I believe they make use of a Hall effect sensor to measure current rather than a shunt, or the Shunt is internal to the meter itself. &nbsp;One or the other.<br><br>If you are just &nbsp;counting amps out of the batteries it should certainly work for that, and at a good price too. &nbsp;I became aware of this product from Other RV sites, where much more info exists about it.<br><br>Here's just one thread about it:<br><a href="http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/25617884/print/true.cfm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/25617884/print/true.cfm</a>
 
It looks like the turnigy is a bit light for what I'd like. I like the one on the link below for $150 and the manual is very good for installation. Just need a shunt and some wire and lots of cash<br><br>thanks for the help<br>rick
 
Update for those who might be looking for the same kind of metered battery monitor<br><br>Since I will not have the cash for the meter I would like I decided to get one of the Turnigy meters and give it a go for $30 includes shipping from hobbinking.com<br><br>I found a decent demo of someone using / explaining the meter on youtube. There are many. Just search turnigy 130a meter<br><a href="" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><br></a><br><br>To do all that I want I would need two of these. One on the charge controler side of the battery bank and the other on the other side of the battery (load side). For now I will see if I like the meter and can get it hooked up on the battery load side. This will give me an idea of how much amp hours I am taking from the batteries.<br><br>Thanks you folks for all the help<br>Rick
 
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