Low power van with headroom?

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Boyntonstu

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I had a 4 cylinder 2.3 liter Ford Ranger pickup 5 speed with a topper.

I never camped in it.

Although it had a small engine, it did the job and gave great mileage.

I have no need to go faster that 70 MPH.

Is there a small engine van out there with headroom?
 
I've happily lived in a 2001 Oldsmobile Silhouette. I just took the middle seats out and sleep on the floor.

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I've been in it for two years.

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Gypsy Clipper said:
I've happily lived in a 2001 Oldsmobile Silhouette. I just took the middle seats out and sleep on the floor.

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Yeah I've got 289,000 miles on it. I am moving on to a full size van next month. But this has been a great and reliable way to travel.

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90's model 1 ton raised roof Ford van with a 7.3 diesel. I chose this because I am going to live in it and pull a 24 or 28 foot enclosed cargo trailer. I chose it because it is basically bullet proof and not super expensive to buy. And anyone with any diesel know how can repair it. Plus parts are cheap too.


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Gypsy Clipper said:
90's model 1 ton raised roof Ford van with a 7.3 diesel. I chose this because I am going to live in it and pull a 24 or 28 foot enclosed cargo trailer. I chose it because it is basically bullet proof and not super expensive to buy. And anyone with any diesel know how can repair it. Plus parts are cheap too.


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If you did not need to pull a trailer, what would you choose?
 
Probably another mini van but just make it a little more comfy. I am going big with the other set up to build a large bathroom area,kitchen area and room to haul a car. I am doing all that to keep my income flowing. I had thought if I was just going to keep wandering I would put money into the Silhouette. This is my second one. I love it. Comes with a built in air compressor and it's been so reliable.

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With vandwelling you have a weight penalty which necessitates a little more oomph. Going too underpowered results in lower fuel economy than a larger motor option.
An early 2000s minivan can be had for cheap and will return 20 city and 25 highway with reasonable driving. If you want better than that you have to go VERY new or wagon.
Even then, you'd either be spending MUCH more or going with FAR less space for just a couple mpg improvement.
Head on over to the mechanical section and read my writeup thread about minivans. Personally, I'd go with a 2001-2003 Ford Windstar if I went minivan.
The General Motors competitor (The Silhouette for example) is a good option too.

At the end of the day, there is no financial or ecological benefit for trying to eek out a couple extra mpgs.
 
Gideon33w said:
With vandwelling you have a weight penalty which necessitates a little more oomph. Going too underpowered results in lower fuel economy than a larger motor option.

People keep saying that but I haven't seen the evidence for it. This morning I spent some time on fuelly checking all the most common 'dwelling vehicles I could think of. I noted the avg MPG for each motor given with displacement, diesel and gas in separate categories. The overall pattern was the smallest displacement engine tended to have the highest MPG. There were anomalies, of course (the Nissan NVx500 being the most striking), but the pattern is there. I encourage everyone to go look for themselves.

One might argue that the average person isn't loading their vehicle down, but the pattern held for the 2500s, 3500s, sprinters, etc. Unless we think they are driving around unladen I think these are significant data points. I am calling the "bigger motor gets better MPG when laden" position bo-oh-oh-oh-gus as Click and Clack used to say.


Gideon33w said:
At the end of the day, there is no financial or ecological benefit for trying to eek out a couple extra mpgs.

I don't understand what that means. I suggest the base engined vehicles cost less to buy, to maintain, and will likely get better MPG. We might want lots of power, and that's totally cool. One of my favorite things about motorcycles is gobs of power on tap. But we could at least admit that in most cases it's a personal preference and not an issue of practicality.
 
I know with my 4 cylinder Tacoma 5 speed stick when loaded and pulling a trailer the MPG goes below that of a 6 cylinder automatic Tacoma doing the same. When unloaded the 4 cylinder gets 2 to 5 MPG more than the 6 cylinder. Surprisingly the computer controlled automatic 4 cylinder is rated with a higher MPG than the 5 speed stick. So loaded I would be better off with the 6 cylinder automatic. Most built out vans are usually heavy so I would think this would be true for them as well, but by building light and living simply a smaller engine might work. A foam shell on a Tacoma has worked really well for a young man on tntt. I think most recommend a 350 cubic inch engine and a 3/4 ton van for a 2" x 4" / plywood build out and a 1 ton if pulling a trailer.
 

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