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The combination of Big Agra and cheap foreign food imports have pretty well killed small farming in America. If you want to run a small farm, you'd better have some other viable cashflow source. Simple economics 101.
 
 It so important for us to support local farmers if we can. I read this book about a young guy who set out to save his family farm - Gaining Ground: A Story Of Farmers' Markets, Local Food, And Saving The Family Farm - and did it but not without a lot of hard work and mistakes along the way. Our route happened to be taking us very close to the farm so we stopped and bought a bunch of his products -good stuff! If no one is around to man the little store it's all on the honor system.

 Local Havest website is a good place to look for farms near you. We also belong to Harvest Hosts. It cost $40.00 a year to join and then you can park overnight at farms and wineries for free but if you buy something you help support the farm.
 
10 acres may be on the too small scale, perhaps if they had 40 acres things would be different and it would still be a small farm.
 
"I hear some new small farms are doing well in Colorado.

Guy"

Haha!!
 
When I go out of my way to support a particular group of farmers, it's the amish.  I like the fact that they're preserving a technology that otherwise could get lost.  I've known the guy who farms my mother's farm since he was a toddler.  With his equipment, and skill, he can farm 2.5 acres per hour.  This includes everything, plowing, planting, spraying, and harvesting.  He spends 18 hours per year to farm Mom's 45 acres.  He's not an evil agri-business.  He's a guy who knows how to farm, and has the equipment to get it done.  The upside is that food is cheap and abundant.  If you stop at an amish house, not on a sunday, and ask if they know where there is an amish market, chances are they'll sell you whatever you want, or they'll tell you where to go.  
 
I`m happy to see the sad truth is f.i.n.a.l.l.y coming out. And it doesn`t stop there. There`s a good article in the Dec `14 Mother Earth News. It`s called Another High Cost of Factory-Farmed Meat: The Death of Small Towns by Christopher Leonard. The following paragraph will quote the 1st paragraph in the article.

One of the biggest myths about U.S. farming is that there`s no money in it. Small farming towns, the thinking goes, have died over the last 50 years because there`s no profit to be made in this largely backward-looking business. This would be a sad reality if it were true, but it`s not. Farming is IMMENSELY profitable. The agriculture sector is one of the richest, most productive machines of modern business. The critical question isn`t whether there`s money in agriculture, but, rather, where does the money go?

The article proceeds to explain how industrial farms kill small towns rather than help them grow. Read it if you can or I`m sure the info is on the net. I can`t type it all.

Have we become too specialized, too efficient, too greedy, too self centered, to unnatural, too polarized? It` hard to see your home town die; to see the family farm sell.
 
I been around farming and ranching most of my life. It's hard to make a good profit farming a small farm these days. Everything is so unbalanced, you have to spray for insects and fertilize everything today.  At one time I had over 150 pecan trees. Gophers and the severe drought killed a high percent of the trees. I had chickens, darn coyotes and chicken hawks wiped me out. Had to sell all my cattle because of the severe drought we had the last 7 years. I'm about ready to sell everything and hit the road.
 
If you ever tried growing anything, in no time you realize how hard it is to get it from seed to a kitchen table. The things that can go wrong are endless, I have a huge respect for those that grow food.
 
flying kurbmaster said:
If you ever tried growing anything, in no time you realize how hard it is to get it from seed to a kitchen table. The things that can go wrong are endless, I have a huge respect for those that grow food.

Wife & I went to the Hope Arkansas watermelon fest back in 2010. That was a very good experience, that is if you like to grow watermelons. I learned how to grow very large melons & would like to share that with you'll.  Just use a good fertilizer & a lot of water & leave 1 or 2 melons per plant. You have to constantly prune all the small melons off the plants so the 2 melons can continue to get big.  From this learning experience, I did grow a 110 pounder & that is still small compared to the watermelons grown in Hope Ark.  There website is:  http://www.hopechamberofcommerce.com/melon_heritage.htm
 
I to have been in the ag business for most of my life. between people demanding ever lower prices and gov regs the small guys get the shaft. it's what goes in this age. we can see it in every industry. highdesertranger
 
To really make it on a small farm, you have to find a niche market like organic or similar. To become certified organic (whatever that really means) you have to jump thru a lot of government hoops which takes time and lots of it. I know some very successful small farmers back in NC. Most all of them have found small niches. One raises only grassfed Black Angus sells both for meat and the calves for others to raise, has his own pedigree bull that he sells the sperm from as well. Another does organic chicken/duck/quail/pheasant both eggs and poultry to some of the local upscale restaurants. I know of another that does the herbs to the same restaurants plus had a greenhouse where you can buy your transplants for your home garden. There are several who are selling pesticide free fruits & veggies to locals and restaurants (some are working on getting certified organic, some are certified). Many of these same farmers also sell products (soaps, cheeses, etc) online thru their own websites. They aren't getting rich but they are paying their bills. I have been told it is comparable to working for someone else in pay. Basically they have replaced their outside jobs and work for themselves. Some are doing well enough that they can hire some help.
 
BTW, the farmers that I know, unlike the one in the article, own their land. Some of them own it free and clear. And there's the difference I think. They either inherited their land (10 to 50 acres), bought it years ago and paid it off as fast as they could while working factory jobs. Or retired to the area with money from a sold higher priced home. Debt is a killer.
 
Oh, and I forgot all the "U-PICK" farms that have popped up and are doing great.
 
"I wondered how many small farmers actually made a living.... I talked to all the farmers I knew, considered farms I or my partner had worked at in the past, farms I’d visited, friends’ farms. Most farmers I talked to worked outside jobs to keep their farms above water, others skirted by on an income they calculated to be $4 per hours, and most depended on interns, volunteers or WWOOFers for labor. I did not encounter a single farmer who met my requirements."

This is what got my attention in that Salon article. When initially considering life on the road, I stumbled across the whole WWOOF thing -- work a farm for free, get room and board. Ostensibly it's so that one can learn organic farming from those doing it, but the upshot for me would be a place to park for a while, with food and conveniences taken care of. Holding pattern kind of time, like if one was low on their gas budget, or just wanted to stop and be social for a while, do some physical work.

I just hooked back up with my ex-no.1-in-laws, who run a small beef farm. They could never make a go of it after the Feds changed dairy laws in the 70s -- ex-FIL and his brother both got jobs at the local navy yard, switched the farm over to beef, and worked nights and weekends. They made just enough working the farm to pay taxes on the land and maintain it, but not enough on which to live. Ex-BIL does the same thing -- works an engineering job during weekdays, and then does farmwork on the weekends. Plenty of the other kids want nothing to do with the farm... hard work, low pay. 
 
It's hard to have an honest organic farm. You'll always have a neighbor that sprays grazon p+d or pesticides and you'll get the over spray. That happened to me several times. Neighbor didn't see me in the pasture, the over spray was so bad that I had to go sit in my truck. I felt like knocking the crap out of him. But you have to get along with your neighbors because something will happen where you're at fault one day. My bull broke fence and jumped in his pasture once. BUT, he had 32 cows and one bull. His bull was so over worked that he appreciated my bull helping out. I should of charge him. I think before you buy any land, research your neighbors.
 
IMHO Farming could be a reasonable way to get by/live not get rich mind you. As consumers we cut our own throats By going for the BOTTOM LINE. buying the cheapest everything 1.99 dozen eggs unripe fruits mass produced veggies all this agra assembly line packaged stuff. What farmer can or will compete with this bottom line? Their chickens have names and personalities, I repeat we are cutting our own throats. Me included...
 
Very much agree with you Wagoneer! We are out of balance. In many instances the almighty $ rules! I'm not sure which came first, the chicken or the egg. My guess is the consumer saw the rich get richer. The consumer found ways to balance the scale, the rich found ways to offset that knowledge & it has been a cat & mouse game since.
 
I want to add
Maybe we should do like this guy: The American Who Quit Money to Live in a Cave
 

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