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[Guest]

Not sure what you are saying here jack, but thanks for sharing and clearing up what I meant..... <img src="/images/boards/smilies/confused.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" /><br /><br />I said, in as short and concise a manner as I know how, what I did....and what I was advised against....you can make whatever you like of it.....<br /><br />Maybe it will help someone....if not...as I said YMMV.....<br /><br />Bri

 

[josephusminimus]

Not sure what you are saying here jack, but thanks for sharing and clearing up what I meant..... <img src="/images/boards/smilies/confused.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /><br /><br />I said, in as short and concise a manner as I know how, what I did....and what I was advised against....you can make whatever you like of it.....<br /><br />Maybe it will help someone....if not...as I said YMMV.....<br /><br />Bri

Bri: Sorry what I said wasn't clearer for you.&nbsp; Glad the advice you got worked for you.&nbsp; Here's hoping others troubled by similar situations find things that work for them.<br /><br />Likely they'll all take the approaches they consider most appropriate for them, same as you and I have.

 

[angeli]

Bri<br /><br />Glad you are better.&nbsp; Wish you could have said what you did a bit differently, however.<br /><br />Point:&nbsp; Asking a doctor's opinion about what herbs do is like asking a Teabagger about Islam.&nbsp; You already know the kind of response you will get.&nbsp; And with how much knowledge.&nbsp; Your urologist friend is probably quite competent in their field.&nbsp; Power to them.&nbsp; However, their understanding of the action of herbs is quite limited, apparently.&nbsp; They words describe what happens when people self-medicate, and try to cover symptoms, and not what happens when herbs area applied to a problem by a trained expert.&nbsp; That description was both inaccurate and misleading.<br /><br />Also:&nbsp; If you are going thru a very difficult health crisis, I'd highly recommend against going to an <em>"</em><span id="post_message_1275304613"><em>internet wrangler or self-styled "healer" who took a weekend workshop on herbal medicine"</em>.&nbsp; If alternative medicine IS someone's choice, they would be better served to try to find someone with some credentials, just as they would if they decided to go with an allopath.&nbsp; Frankly, I'd thought to see better from you.&nbsp; Thanks a lot. <br /></span>

 

[Guest]

Angeli, Thanks for the response. I hear you and appreciate what you are saying.....<br /><br />I hope you can let go of any expectations of me since I am bound to disappoint. I have enough trouble trying to make the right decisions for myself on a moment to moment basis to worry about others expectations.<br /><br />I am just another bozo on the bus of life and will say some prickly stuff sometimes...not with bad intentions but, depending on my own moment, the wrong choice of words.<br /><br />I do stand completely with the content of what I said.<br /><br />As a result of my own experiences in life including working on carnivals far too long, I have a somewhat cynical view of some people and the willingness of some to prey on the high level of gullibility amongst us as humans. I can't help that...I have seen it far too often.<br /><br />For me personally, I make use of what things I find have some merit...acupuncture made it so I could continue working as long as I did....I am extremely grateful for that.<br /><br />I take a handful of stuff everyday...stuff that depending on the chiropractor you go to and what brand of product he is selling...either does great things or nothing at all...but have chosen them due to how they seem to work for me. I get some great results with some and toss some when it becomes apparent they don't help....currently I am back on tart cherry due to the relief I had at one point with old arthritic joints....I no longer need to visit the acupuncturist but I live with a 3" titanium plate and a few sheetrock screws into my vertabrae...again, thank you Dr. Reedy, an excellent neurosurgeon. I also have the use of my arms although little feeling in my fingers...<br /><br />Anyway...if the conversation is medicine, I will un-apologetically defend my docs who have literally worked miracles with my old broken body....at the same time, I will defend your right to go to whoever you want to and proceed however you want to. <br /><br />Probably this convo would be best had around a campfire and I would be glad to have it with anyone...I have lived in several places that are hotbeds of alternative medicine and know many people who consider themselves "healers"....to me just another way to think of oneself as unique and special...but that is just my current opinion and as all my opinions, open to revision if you show me why they should change.<br /><br />Hugs and peace,<br />bri

 

[Guest]

To each their own.
Everyone gets to have an opinion. EVERYONE.

KWITIT with trying to Force everyone to say what they have to say in a way that isn't going to 'offend' or 'upset' anyone.
No matter how anything is worded someone is ALWAYS going to insist on being 'offended' or 'upset'.

 

[mockturtle]

To each their own. Everyone gets to have an opinion. EVERYONE. KWITIT with trying to Force everyone to say what they have to say in a way that isn't going to 'offend' or 'upset' anyone. No matter how anything is worded someone is ALWAYS going to insist on being 'offended' or 'upset'.

Well said.&nbsp; Do people grow up in a bubble nowadays so they never learned to cope with disagreement?&nbsp; I like to say, "Let's agree to disagree".&nbsp; <br /><br />And bk2valve stated his position well:&nbsp; <br />

<span id="post_message_1275330126">Anyway...if the conversation is medicine, I will un-apologetically defend my docs who have literally worked miracles with my old broken body....at the same time, I will defend your right to go to whoever you want to and proceed however you want to. </span>

 

[Guest]

KWITIT? wassat mean 4x4? <img src="/images/boards/smilies/confused.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" /> Thank you mockturtle. I do try to state what I mean in as few and small words as works to not be misunderstood ....but you know, some times I'm a grouchy olde pharte and someone sets me off....and then it is only the miracle of tiny keyboards that disappear entire rants before I post em that saves me from having to make amends to everyone the next day.......<br /><br />I am just sorry that my posts departed so far from what the O/P asked...LOL<br /><br />Oh well...that's what happens with adult deficit disorder!<br /><br />Peace,<br />Bri

 

[angeli]

WELL, my friends.&nbsp; If other folks want to have their opinions that is all well and good.&nbsp; if so, then don't tell me what I can say as well, and y'all are just as guilty by telling me to kwitit, which is a euphemism for 'shut up'.&nbsp; <br /><br />I reserve the right to be hurt by what sounded very much like a personal slam in your post, Bri.&nbsp; Enough.&nbsp; y'all continue around the fire without me on this thread before I say something I'll regret.&nbsp; Blessed Be.

 

[Guest]

Angeli....Wow, could you be further from what I meant in any of my posts?....Actually I happen to enjoy thoroughly anything you have said on this group and although I have looked at your blog, I have no idea who you are or what you do. We are all so damnably secretive of ourselves on here that the only people I know are those I have directly met face to face and most of those I like very much. <br /><br />Not sure what you thought of as a personal slam and not knowing you or what you are invested in, I have no way to know what it was. If you want to email me, we can have a conversation about it.<br /><br />My comment about the campfire is because face to face, people can often have the entire conversation instead of snippets and reactions and our deeper meaning and personal path can be more apparent and respected.<br /><br />Please know that nothing I said was meant for you to take personally. If you do take it that way, that is of course your problem...just know that nothing was meant to be personal...<br /><br />Peace,<br />bri

 

[angeli]

A '<em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">problem</span></em>' is when you are living out of a shopping cart and the cops come to roust you for sitting on the wrong sidewalk, impound all your stuff, and then arrest your friend for bringing you a sandwich and a soda.<br /><br />My being told to 'shut up' after courteously responding to false &amp; misleading information reported third hand, or seeing rude comments about 'growing up in a bubble', is not a problem.&nbsp; Not even close.&nbsp; However, the patronizing and disdainful tone of the last posters here is hurtful, nothing more.<br /><br />If the comments about 'a weekend at an herbal workshop' was not posted as a response to my earlier posting of herbal information, then I accept your words.&nbsp; I've quite literally spent many many years studying this field.<br /><br />And I hold to my original statement.&nbsp; If you are seeking the services of any healer - allopath, acupuncturist, herbalist, chiropractor - make sure they are credentialed and qualified.&nbsp; I would suggest that one not go to an allopath, unless they are a wholistic physician, for an explanation of herbal medicine.&nbsp; Just as I would not go to a master herbalist for neuro-surgery.&nbsp; There are no such studies as the ones your urologist friend described, I'm sorry.&nbsp; That is simply heresay.&nbsp; However there are plenty that state otherwise, and a trip to the Mayo Clinic website page on herbs might enlighten.&nbsp; My opinion of his words has nothing at all to do with his competence in his field, or how well he was able to assist you.

 

[Guest]

OK, thank you. Enough for me. I have to deal with life as it happens here in the world.<br />Peace,<br />Bri<br /><br />Edit to say:<br /><br />PS. if that offends somehow...let me say it differently: I have said all I have to on this topic.