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was thinking about cost of a used RV in pretty good condition. lets say $48000 but not sure what you get. &nbsp;thats $1000 a month for four years. after four years maybe have $30000 in value for the RV.&nbsp;<br><br>then rent at a decent RV park per month (only water included) is $500 per month (please correct me on this).<br><br>******<br><br>compare to owning a house at $1500 a month payment. the cost of taxes-insurance-maintenance-closing(buy/sell) will eat up the cost of that cheap house. in four years you might pay off $5000 in principal &nbsp;and maybe gain $5000 in equity. &nbsp;this gives you $10000. &nbsp; &nbsp;in my case owned my house for ten years. value went up $40,000. but had some big expenses of $20,000 in repairs.<br><br>####<br><br>point is the RV life pays off. if you can handle small spaces and you can find a great RV park
 
You can do way better than that in both departments.<br><br>I don't understand the point.
 
cyndi - i had not finished my posting. now its finished.<br><br>or buy a sprinter or van or something you can live in. and pay it off in four years or less
 
&nbsp;&nbsp; Nice used RVs can be had for $5000, sometimes less. Parks in sunny Az. are all over the place for $200 a month.
 
hey offroad, never made a penny off any rv or car after i was done with it. i have all ways wore them out!!.but i have made alot of(" money") off the houses i have own, after i was done with them!!.here in california and wore out the house to. just saying i.m.o., fellow traveler gary&nbsp;
 
Gary - in California over priced market I agree. There you buy a $200k house and ten years later it's worth $300k. And that was the market rule over the last twenty years there. But back east it's different. Plus market has changed for many area. If you try to sell and it takes a year, you have lost $12k as that is interest-taxes-maintence-insurance you have paid. Yes you are likely living in it. But the math tells the real truth about not being able to sell it.

The real rule is to live in an area where there are lots of high paying jobs and people want to move there. Then you get great real estate speculation.
 
Am looking at PAID OFF as a financial factor in ownership. An RV paid off at $48k has got to be worth more practical dollars than a house with a $100k remaining loan on it.

This is the tricky issue about money. If the RV is paid off. The owner can use the monthly dollars to pay for other toys- gifts- trips. While the house owner waits another ten years paying on the $100k owed, before he has the $1000 monthly savings from paying off the mortgage.

Also thinking the bottom line price on an RV with a bad drivetrain and bad brakes, but no issues with the frame has to be $10000. As that is the price you pay for a replacement drive train, and replacement brakes. This means that your RV with new drive train should be worth $15000 to $20000. If you have some kind of enforceable warranty.
 
Here's another way of looking at this equation. From the experience of caring for my wife long term, I know that there is no one going to be willing to care for me when I start needing help. This house needs a lot of repair and I'm not up to it. I'm already on disability so I'll someday need to move into an assisted living facility since I'll have no help from family. Owning this place at that time will be problematic. I can/could sell this place and get a pretty good motor home large enough for me to be comfortable and have some cash left over. I live in an rv for 20 years and it won't be valuable enough to be a problem when needing to move into an assisted living facility. With this plan, I lose the problems of living in a house that's falling apart and gain the freedom to move to where ever I want to live and change my mind without the hassles of dealing with buying and selling real estate.
 
RVs do require upkeep, probably more than a small house.&nbsp; They mostly are not meant for living in full time, and things are compromised to make them small and light.
 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; With the exception of a few collectables, RVs, vans etc. are depreciating assets. Trying to compare a house to an RV is nonsensical. Many thousands of folks live successfully and comfortably in RVs full time. Some of us for many years. All different types of RVs are built specifically for living in full time. A perfectly suitable RV to live in can be bought for $5000, maybe less. Many on this site have done just that. By the way, everything needs maintenance, even us.
 
owl said:
A perfectly suitable RV to live in can be bought for $5000, maybe less. Many on this site have done just that.
<br><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>That's true. I didn't give TOO much more than that for mine ($6100) last year, &amp; even though it's&nbsp;</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;"><strong>a 2000 <br>model, it was a one-owner, 24' Coachmen TT, &amp; in near-mint condition throughout, so yes, it CAN be done.&nbsp;<br><br>I wouldn't say mine is one of those designed for full-timing, but I'm managing!&nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" class="emoticon bbc_img"><br><br></strong></span>
 
hey terry,that sounds like a good plan you have there, i too will have no one to look after me when i get to old to take care of my house,a nice small class c or maybe a class b. thats a nice thing about&nbsp;being short, you don't need alot of room.i will miss my garden. &nbsp;fellow traveler gary&nbsp;
 
so comparing prices and looking at creative alternatives. a good outfited conversion bus or larger RV might be around $30,000 all done to live in. thats $500 a month over five years. ($500 x 12 months x 5 years)<br><br>the good to live RV areas near my city are $700 per month. and may go to $800 or $900 in five years. if you are good you increase prices.&nbsp;<br><br>@@@@@@@<br><br>trying to compare that to apartments at $1000 to $1500 per month.&nbsp;<br><br>starting to look very interesting.&nbsp;
 
I looked at used Class A (bus based) RVs that are 35', 40' or even 44' long. It seems the high end bus based RVs hold their value better, although as stated, RVs always depreciate quickly. But I've seen 1980s Wanderlodge motorhomes (based on an all steel Bluebird school bus, but factory converted to a luxury RV when new) still fetching $20k to $30k for nicely kept units. 1990s units are $50k or more and early 2000's units are over $100k. But, these are motorhomes that sold for over $1million when new, at a time when other motorhomes sold for $70k to $100k when new. They may have a slightly dated look (inside and out), but they definitely hold up a lot better than the fiberglass or thin aluminum bodied motorhomes. <br><br>Used higher end models like Prevost or Newell cost about double of what a Wanderlodge costs. If I could afford one of these condos on wheels, I'd buy one! I've heard you should set aside $10k for repairs for the first year. Seems to be the average people spend when buying one. A set of 6 new tires can set you back $4k-5k. And maintenance and repairs on a diesel bus will be more than for a cargo van!<br><br>But if all I had was $5000 and had to choose between using it for renting an apartment, or buying a vehicle to live in, I'd seriously consider buying whatever motorhome I could for $5000. It will be older, but definitely better than nothing. I think if buying a travel trailer, your money could go even further. If you can find a free place to park, then all the better! And even when it comes to paying for parking at an RV park, $700 a month to be near a major city and have water, toilet waste dumping, trash removal, electricity, cable TV and Internet is pretty reasonable. You would never be able to live in an apartment that cheaply in most major cities. You could tow a car or van behind it so you could drive locally in something fuel efficient and leave your 5 or 8 mpg motorhome at the RV park.<br><br>Having said that, I'm in the process of converting my Chevy Astro van into a stealth camper for vandwelling and parking for free as much as possible. I already own my van, it's in great condition and I'd never get my money out of it if I sold it. I've heard people often prefer something smaller, so maybe I'll like the van and won't consider a motorhome. We'll see. But for the next few years, looks like I'll be living in my van. If I had the money, and could choose any vehicle, I'd choose something with more headroom, be it a high top van, a regular motorhome or a used high end bus based motorhome. But, I don't have that luxury. I will be saving my money though! Until then, I will be roughing it, hunched over, or walking on my hands and knees in my stock height Astro and sharing it with my dog until I can afford something larger.
 

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