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Optimistic Paranoid

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A few years back Ram was testing a new Power Wagon on a beach at low tide and got stuck.  Supposedly, the test drivers couldn't figure out how to engage the lockers or use the winch.

I cannot confirm the rumor that they were later promoted to management . . .
 

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Optimistic Paranoid said:
I cannot confirm the rumor that they were later promoted to management . . .
Confirmed or not, that sounds about right. :p
 
I thought of SternWake when I saw that pic.
But he has a van!
 
Thirsty Boots Nomad said:
Or they went into politics and are currently in Con[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]gress[/font]

Hehe, can't speak to the rest, but there are at least a couple I like. T.G. & J.C.
 
My favorite Senator:

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Heh. I know that a lot of those car testers are from Michigan. We have lovely beaches here in Michigan. They look very similar to ocean beaches but don't have tides. I know that I am not the first Michigander to get caught by surprise by an incoming tide at an ocean beach. The idea of a bunch of engineers from Detroit finding themselves in a similar situation just feels *really* plausible to me.
 
The Great Lakes don't have tides?  I didn't realize that.  Thought they would be big enough for the moon to affect them, guess not . . .
 
Optimistic Paranoid said:
The Great Lakes don't have tides?  I didn't realize that.  Thought they would be big enough for the moon to affect them, guess not . . .

Lake Michigan seemed to have them when I lived next to it (as did Lake Superior during a camping visit); ... could be wrong as my memory is from more years than I care to admit back ...

I do know I've heard a few people talking about the moon's affect on Superior within the past couple months though.
 
Optimistic Paranoid said:
The Great Lakes don't have tides?  I didn't realize that.  Thought they would be big enough for the moon to affect them, guess not . . .

Technically, the lakes have tides. But the lakes are so much smaller than the ocean that the tides can be measured in inches rather than feet.
 
Tides also vary at times, sometimes quite a lot. Dad and I were net fishing for mullet years ago, off Florida's Gulf Coast. We got caught by a freak low tide. Left us sitting grounded in what had been three feet of water an hour before.
We sat in that sandy waste for hours til it refilled. Never happened before or after. Weird.
 
gsfish said:
Winds might have more effect than the moon.

Guy

Winds have a huge effect. I can remember when I lived in the Soo, we would sometimes go watch storms blow tons of water into Whitefish Bay which would raise the lake levels there, sometimes dramatically. Also, in the summer those same winds blowing from the west would push warm water into the bay making it the best (maybe only?) place for swimming in Lake Superior.
 
slynne said:
Technically, the lakes have tides. But the lakes are so much smaller than the ocean that the tides can be measured in inches rather than feet.

The Spring Tide is less than 5 centimeters, but it is a true tide in that it is the effect of gravitational forces of the Earth, moon and sun.
 
DannyB1954 said:
The Bay of Fundy has a max tide change of 53 feet. That must be something to see when it comes in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Fundy

As a child my family visited. To get to the sea floor you walk done iron stair cases and then you can walk out on the sea floor for like a mile. When the tide starts to come back in there is a huge fog horn that starts to go off and everyone races back to the cliff face and up those stairs. Once everyone is up they lock the stairwells with these ancient rusty padlocks.

Looking down from the top of the cliff at the bottom of the stairs and seeing them get covered by the incoming tide is something I will never forget.
 
gsfish said:
Winds might have more effect than the moon.

Guy

Tide is defined by gravitational forces of the sun and moon and effects of wind are not part of the normal fluctuations. Wind for instance can force water to one side of a lake and that is not considered tidal. Wind effects may compound tidal forces but it is not the same thing.
 
On the Thames Rives in London (which is contained by a wall) during low tide people hunt for relics (since people have lived along the Thames for more than 1,000 years). The tide comes in so quickly that many people have died. It can rise 24 feet very quickly and people are so engrossed in their hunt that they don't notice until they are trapped. After 51 people died in 1989, they put escape stairways all along the retaining wall.

Off topic: One thing is interesting - anyone can pick up surface relics, but you have to be a UK citizen to dig and then only after you've passed stringent requirements. All finds must first be offered to the British Museum, though they only take the rarest. Pretty cool to be able to walk along and find 1,000 year old pottery and jewelry just lying there
 
Keep in mind that a tide going out fairly fast (unusual for that location) and exposing the sea bed can also be the sign of a major tidal wave/tsunami coming. A 10-year old British girl was about the only one who recognized that fact when that huge earthquake hit Indonesia in 2004. She was responsible for saving all the people on that beach that had the sense to listen to her and run. Talk about out of the mouths of babes...
 
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