4 WD

[djkeev]

We just had our first seasonal frozen event here in NJ. 
I 80 is full of accidents, Jack Knifed Semis, etc..........
This sums up my feelings.........

 

[Oopslala]

It's crazy how the first snow is always chaos, even in the states that annual get snow dumped on them. People just forget how to drive when snow comes

 

[Gunny]

4 wheel drive just makes you spin in tighter circles on ice.

 

[Milk Hauler]

Surprisingly no wrecks here in St Charles Wi. Woke up to another foot of this stuff. They take good care of the roads in Wi and Mn, compared to Idaho. KC was a parking lot last night, with all the wrecks. FREEZING RAIN is a SOB. Giving them time to clean things up before I head to Arkansas.

I have a locking rear axle on truck. Turns it into a tank, provided I stay below 25 mph.

Pointed an IR gun out the window...

Thank God for Peterbuilts incredible heaters.

I am parked at some good eats. Real Food!

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[LeeRevell]

Down here in the Deep South, we say, "Four wheel drive doesn't keep from getting stuck. You just get stuck deeper in the wilderness!"
I have seen both Rear Wheel Drive and Front Wheel Drive vehicles go through where most folks would get stuck in 4X4. Driver skill means more than how many wheels are spinning.
Had one buddy in a '69 VW Squareback pull a 4X4 pickup from a mudhole.
Another buddy with a four-wheeler ATV pulled another hunting buddy's 4X4 Chevy truck out of a sandhole.

 

[akrvbob]

I totally disagree, I consider 4x4 absolutely essential in bad going. Lived in Anchorage Ak for 45 years, I wouldn't be without one.

Yes, front wheel drive cars can do extremely well on snow and ice, until you get a foot or two of snow, then they are dragging their bodies and axles in it--no good, stay home, or hope a 4x4 comes along and pulls you out.

 

[Every Road Leads Home]

I'm with Bob on this one. 4x4 in snow is ten fold better than the best Front or rear wheel drive vehicle.

 

[jimindenver]

I had only 2WD until I bought the Expedition in 2003. I took those vans and cars places considered 4x4 trails now. A Buick with a good set of tires could do well in the snow up to a point, beyond that common sense should say to stay home. That said a 4x4 is so much more capable and in control that a 2WD, not to go faster but to go at all. The proper tires do wonders for either, a set of chains on the van made two feet of snow a play ground. The same set on the 4x4 F150 ups it to three feet.

 

[MrNoodly]

Wrecks like that are nature's way of teaching you how deluded you are about your driving skills and invincibility.

 

[bullfrog]

No matter what I drive I have always made sure I kept in reserve a system to get myself unstuck. If two wheel drive then ramps, come-a longs, tractor jack, chains and so forth, turn around and go back. If four wheel drive then drive in two wheel drive till I almost or do get stuck, then use four wheel drive to get unstuck turn around and go back. If driving in four wheel drive and stuck use lockers or a wench to get unstuck turn around and go back. Walking ahead is the best way to determine when to turn around. Don't know how many times I have come upon an a bad section I could probably get through without breaking or getting stuck, walked ahead a mile or so to find a washout or hill that was impossible to cross and decided I had done all the walking I wanted and didn't attempt to go further than I had. Now I am older and not able to walk as far a Rokon or TW200 in the back of the truck is sounding pretty good. Here in the West rain or snow makes easy roads impossible in a few minutes so food and water always go along with warm clothes. The way you learn when to turn around is by getting stuck just make sure you have a way to get unstuck or survive.

 

[USExplorer]

We had a bunch of wrecks down here in NC with a freezing rain event. People, if you brake and start skidding, let off the brakes!

 

[RVtrek]

People, if you brake and start skidding, let off the brakes!

I wonder why we don't have public service announcements that tell people this stuff?  Wouldn't that be more practical than, "Don't do drugs!" ?

 

[sephson]

You should see Southern California drivers when it rains. The term brain dead morons is the first thing that springs to mind.

Oh, and by rain I mean a light sprinkle or heavy mist.

 

[Sabatical]

Driving with people is snow doesn't scare me as much as driving in black ice conditions. A fair bit of the time folks will slow down if they're sliding around on snow and usually nature gives them a second chance. It's when the roads get icy that those same folks get in a bunch of trouble.

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[Stephen]

I wonder why we don't have public service announcements that tell people this stuff?  Wouldn't that be more practical than, "Don't do drugs!" ?

Yeah. "Stay home, smoke one, and let the road crews clean things up." Well, depending on where you live!


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[StarEcho]

Driving with people is snow doesn't scare me as much as driving in black ice conditions. A fair bit of the time folks will slow down if they're sliding around on snow and usually nature gives them a second chance. It's when the roads get icy that those same folks get in a bunch of trouble.

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That's exactly it where I live.  It snows at night, the sun comes out and melts it mostly but not all during the day and as soon as the sun goes down you have black ice at all the intersections.  So there are always the few idiots who tool down the clear road between lights at the speed limit and get irritated at those of us who creep on the roads knowing that you can't stop on black ice.    Of course it's those fools who skid through the intersection when the light turns red on them.

 

[TrainChaser]

Sephson: "You should see Southern California drivers when it rains. The term brain dead morons is the first thing that springs to mind."

You haven's spent much time in WA State, have you? The people who were born here and have lived here every single hour of their lives here can't drive on wet roads, ice or snow, or any combination thereof.

The young guys driving Hondas are the worst.
Guys of any age driving 4WDs are next.
Then there are the people texting.

From what I've seen, 4WD is mostly good for getting you out of the mess YOU got yourself into.

It doesn't help you here: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/70/6e/63/706e63090b4e8ef39acb757261b3669a.jpg