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ProfessorChaos

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Out here in Colorado there are several forest fires going and with that blowing smoke and a lot of it which makes for bad air quality. You can smell it in the air and today my throat even began to get sore. I know people living in vans, cars, and campers with no air conditioning need to keep their vents and windows open but with all the smoke in the air that may lead to getting sick. How have people full timing in the west dealt with forest fires?
 

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I'm originally from the East Coast and I didn't realize how serious an issue it is out west. The penalty for accidentally starting a forest fire are huge. Once I leave the desert in the spring I never strike a match. It's a good idea to review what the different stages of fire restrictions are.
 
If you can't move, tie a damp (not wet) bandana around your nose and mouth. Change for a clean one every hour or so. This helps in a dust storm as well.
 
I live in Reno and have been tracking the wildfires for a couple of years. July-Sept are the bad months, so the last 2 years I've gone traveling in May and June. Am in Oregon right now. These 2 websites help you stay away from the bad stuff.

- click on Modis, then state: bands 143 show smoke plumes, bands 7,2,1 show the actual fire burns - DON'T go to the San Juans:
https://fsapps.nwcg.gov/afm/index.php
https://fsapps.nwcg.gov/afm/imagery.php
https://fsapps.nwcg.gov/afm/imagery.php?op=fire&fireID=co-000

- detailed info on fires (scroll down):
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/5822/
 
Thanks!  I'm in Telluride, just north of the San Juan National Forest.  I've been looking for good smoke data, best so far has been the twitter feed of the Grand Junction National Weather Service Office.  The latest date available is the tenth.

This guy is puts together high quality maps that were the most up to date, and detailed, in the early days of the Durango Fires.  It looks like his source is MODIS, not sure if he's getting anymore.

<iframe width="500" height="500" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="https://mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4....special_maps/disaster/USA_wildland_fire_3.txt"></iframe><br /><small><a href="https://mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4....special_maps/disaster/USA_wildland_fire_3.txt" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">Open this map full screen.</a></small>

You can zoom out for coverage of, I believe, the entire US.

The remnants of Hurricane Bud are coming through this weekend, that will have some effect. FWIW, we get monsoonal rain in July and August and it's usually better then. June is the hottest month in the San Juan's.
 
In the Modis band 1,4,2 image, it's easy to distinquish between clouds (whitish and scattered) and smoke (greyish), and tell where the smoke is drifting to.

Last year I went to Idaho and Montana in May-June, and soon as July came round, there were 25-30 fires in that region. Bad year.
 
We face many fires every summer in Southern Oregon, where I live. It's timber country, and there is always a massive amount of forest duff (the old twigs and leaves and such which accumulate on the forest floor) dried out by our 100-degree-plus, rainless summers, just waiting for a lightning strike, careless camper, or, yep, arsonist to cause misery for countless miles around.

It gets so bad here that smoke from a long, long ways away will still get into your house and there's really nothing you can do but wait it out. It's worse than it sounds, because it can be thick enough that even young healthy people start coughing A LOT, and god knows what it's doing to pets like dogs, who pant constantly anyway and do it even more in the summer heat. I came close to crashing my car from it once, and it wasn't any better in the house.

Around here, hardware stores, Walmart, and the like carry cloth and paper breathing masks and put masses of them out come the fire season -- and sell out quickly Even the dollar store sells small ones -- but it's not something you want to go too cheap on. Cough long and hard enough, and it's just not funny anymore. You'll have wished you spent whatever it took.

If you can leave, leave early. It can get so bad you are not at all safe driving your way out. Not even because you can't see; because you can't breathe.
 
the white dust masks really don't do much good for smoke. they are particulate filters(dust) the micron size that they will filter is to large for smoke. it's the placebo effect, people put them on and think they are working. a proper face mask with removable filters with the proper filters installed is the only way to deal with particles as small as you find in smoke. well not exactly the only, a self contained breathing apparatus works too. highdesertranger
 
We actually get ash coating our plants out in the garden, and leaving nasty residue on our cars. So we use the masks even if they're not great on smoke itself.
 
The west, of course, has been ablaise for the past few summers due to the 5+ year long drought. We had the huge Rim fire down near Yosemite in 2013, and the weather patterns sent the smoke straight up to Reno. The air was literally brown and the sun appeared only as a faint orange disk for weeks. Being respiratory sensitive, I ended up driving down to the pacific coast for some relief.

Here is one of the Modis images, you can see the smoke coming north into Reno. Otherwise, blue skies everywheres else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rim_Fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rim_Fire#/media/File:Rim_Fire_and_American_Fire_large.jpg

These images show what the sky looked like then.
https://www.google.com/search?q=rim+fire+smoke+in+reno&source=lnms&tbm=isch
http://ktvn.images.worldnow.com/images/23242980_SA.jpg
 
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