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Hi, I have been thinking of a box truck or step van as a roomier, stealthier alternative to a van or my truck. I don't know much about them though. How reliable do they tend to be, once in a very low price range? Do you have to have a commercial tag or drivers license?
 
No commercial driver's license is needed for the small ones.  People who rent these vehicles from U-Haul and Budget don't have anything but a normal driver's license.

The truck itself will have commercial plates, unless you live in a state that will let you register it as an RV.  These states require certain RV-type modifications be done before they will so register.

Biggest thing will be the insurance.  Seems to vary from state to state how easy or hard it is to get.  I recommend you discuss this with your insurance agent BEFORE you lay out any money for such a truck.
 
The first thing to look at is it's being mechanically sound, just like any other vehicle you may be looking at.
The second thing I would look for is a pass through door from the box to the cab. As long as you can get to the drivers seat from in back, I'm good with it. (safety reasons)
When I registered one in Nevada, I asked questions and got answers from DMV. Your registration will be a lot cheaper if you register it for 10,000 lbs or less. I registered mine as non commercial, and for personal use, just the same as a pickup truck might be. This may vary from state to state.
I also questioned them on how to get it changed to an RV. I was told it needed a kitchen, which was a basic water supply and a stove, be they portable or not, a restroom facility which could consist of a porta potty, and last but not least, a bed to sleep on. I was told once all that was accomplished to bring it in for inspection.
Bear in mind, this all took place somewhere around five or more years back, so things could have changed again. Plus I sold it before I converted it.
Good luck. :)
 
If the GVW is under 26,000 pounds you wont need a commercial license. Even if it is over that limit, if its an RV or re-certified as an RV, you wont normally need an upgraded license.

Some states DO have certain exceptions.
 
tx2sturgis said:
If the GVW is under 26,000 pounds you wont need a commercial license. Even if it is over that limit, if its an RV or re-certified as an RV, you wont normally need an upgraded license.

Some states DO have certain exceptions.
I never needed a CDL to drive mine. I checked with DMV on that point too. The 10k or less weight made a difference in registration cost in Nevada.
 
Like vehicles, the abuse or not is the key point for looking. Box trucks or similar running from point A to B highways; the city stop n' go 10-12 hours a day is to be avoided in my book. I found a cut-away the other day, low miles and super clean.

The crawling up and down steps, for me, would get old. A long ramp would be better and easier on the hips and joints.
 
I'm a fan of step vans and have owned 4 over the years.

For simplicity I prefer GM based, aluminum bodied ones of 70's- early 90's vintage as parts are readily available and they are relatively easy to repair.

Although I have owned light duty, single rear wheel, 6 cyl versions, and large 20,000 lb GVW vans, I prefer middle ground with 10,000 gvw, 16" dual wheel for handling, stability, and traction.

Like any used vehicle that has been driven commercially there are many that are near rebuild time, so it is important to check the mechanicals over well before investing. Look for a truck with hi-way gearing- some use low gears and small engines for stop and go urban deliveries- they will scream and eat fuel on the road.

The short list of likes I have for step vans include;
standing height
easy of conversion
easy of entry/egress, especially the drivers seat from living space
ground clearance
driver visibility

Dislikes:
fuel mileage
drafty sliding doors
those GD overhead rear doors( I replace with a hatch back type door and "tail gate")
the night time reflection that flat glass windows can cause.

It seems that the newer vans available are tending to be too large, some wide bodied and reaching 22' of cargo space. I prefer 12' cargo space(though I live in 9', with 3' tool rm), standard width, and 6' interior height.
 
tx2sturgis said:
Just for clarity, by 'upgraded' license, I meant the Class B non-CDL.

Ah, thanks, we didn't have that class in Nevada that I was aware of. At least not while I was there.
 
You'll need to source insurance to cover the vehicle during and after the conversion. It's not impossible to get, but it can be problematic.
 
I have a step van and owned a box van for two months prior to switching to the step van (which is a better fit for me). like others have said, you don't need a CDL. Insurance is a pain to get and I was only able to find "commercial insurance" through my business name.

I don't recommend you register it as an RV because it will make getting insurance even more difficult.

I agree with statements from the other step van owners on what to look for

I'm getting about 14-15mpg with a diesel (I have a cummins 5.9). I'd suggest going with diesel as the fuel is easy to find, not much more than gas (depends on where you are... in Colorado it is nearly the same and sometimes less than gas).

I'd recommend looking for the "14ft" step van or smaller. the size, 14ft is based on distance behind the drivers seat for cargo. a 14ft step van is about 22ft bumper to bumper which is the size of a parking space. if you go bigger, you'll have to take two parking spaces like I do (mine is 18ft box with 26ft length). same difficulties apply to standard motorhomes

best of luck to you!
 
Two things I'd look for:

1) Pass-Through--MUST-HAVE!!
2) Wheel Wells--harder to build around but so much lower it would be worth it to me.
 
Some of these come with translucent plastic instead of metal roofs.  I would imagine it would be easier to install roof vents, mount solar panels, etc., on the metal roofs.
 
karl said:
I'm a fan of step vans and have owned 4 over the years.

For simplicity I prefer GM based, aluminum bodied ones of 70's- early 90's vintage as parts are readily available and they are relatively easy to repair.

Thanks for info, karl.  I've never been a machinehead so the mechanicals will be a challenge to me.  But I will still go ahead with my plans to buy one over the winter, outfit it over the spring, and hit the road next summer.  Posts like yours are wonderful gifts. :)
 
Much in agreement with comments posted so far, I'll add or embellish...

Holy smoke! Roll-up doors suck. First, you have to build around them, and second, on a dusty road it's amazing how much dust gets in the vehicle. I'v ereplaced my roll-up door but not the seals. They don't look bad, but I just might do it to see if I can cut down on the dust ingress. I'd strongly suggest swinging doors or replacing the roll-up with a wood framed wall and RV door. The only reason I'm sticking with what Ive got is that I plan to make the rear entry for a garage/shed only, so there won't be access from the cabin and it will be sealed from the cabin.  Also, I plan to mount a motorcycle on the rear bumper, so I have to have a roll-up door.

Pretty much the number one reason I went with a step van is the easy entry/exit with the low floor height and the easy passage from the drivers compartment to the cabin. Another thing I really love in my step van is the view. As a motorcyclist I feel really deprived in the cab of a normal vehicle, which would include a box truck. In a step van, the view out the front is second only to a motorbike. Throw in the fact that you can just slide open the doors and you're practically outside driving down the road. Add to that the lower overhead clearance compared to a box truck and I was sold.

Step vans have, essentially, a skirt all around below the floor level of the vehicle. This allows quite a bit of unseen space below the sides of the vehicle to tuck away water tanks, gas tanks, water heaters and furnaces etc. I expect to quite a bit of cold weather camping so I won't be putting water tanks under there, but I know it's available for stuff if need be.

Oh, and I just think step vans look cooler than box trucks.

On the down side, step vans are LOUD! I'm sure box trucks are quieter. Also, the flip down passenger seat is basically useless for any time longer than about 15 minutes.  If you're regularly going to have a passenger, you might have to go with a box truck. WHile I love being able to open the sliding doors while driving, the door pocket does take up quite a bit of wall space in the cabin behind.  I would have put in a bigger, or more, window/s had I not have to deal with the door pocket. 

Mine step van is 14' behind the driver's seat. I agree with 7Wanders this is a great length because you can just squeeze into one normal parking spot, but I would have really benefitted from an extra couple of feet behind the wheel wells for my garage space. C'est la vie. 

Having driven U-Haul full sized box truck before, I have to say the experience driving a step van is quite a bit closer to vans and normal passeger vehicles. Yeah, you're higher up, but I would have thought it be closer to a box truck than it is.  It seems the muscle memory and experience driving a regular van transfers better to a step van; a box truck just feels bigger than a similarly sized step van.

Horses for courses...your milage may vary...but I love my step van. Build thread in my signature.
 
Optimistic Paranoid said:
No commercial driver's license is needed for the small ones.  People who rent these vehicles from U-Haul and Budget don't have anything but a normal driver's license.

The truck itself will have commercial plates, unless you live in a state that will let you register it as an RV.  These states require certain RV-type modifications be done before they will so register.

Biggest thing will be the insurance.  Seems to vary from state to state how easy or hard it is to get.  I recommend you discuss this with your insurance agent BEFORE you lay out any money for such a truck.

My step van is registered as a passenger car.   $82.00 for 2 years.

The insurance is the tough part, everyone wants to call it a commercial vehicle, even if you are not using it commercially.
 
66788 said:
My step van is registered as a passenger car.   $82.00 for 2 years.

The insurance is the tough part, everyone wants to call it a commercial vehicle, even if you are not using it commercially.
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While I'm still researching and planning, I did find out how simply one can re-title a commercial vehicle to a motorhome here in North Carolina.  Then when I talked to an agent at Progressive, she said they could insure for liability only as a re-titled vehicle at only $119 a year.  "As  long as it's titled as a motorhome."
North Carolina General Statues 20-4.01 section 27 d2
 

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