Study of top 20 longest lasting vehicles

[vagari]

Apparently they examined 30 million cars for sale on their website and looked at the percentage of each make/model that listed over 200k miles. They are mostly trucks and SUV's. Kind of shocking the Dodge Durango tied the Toyota Tacoma. Not sure the quality of the study.

First study from 2014 (30 million cars)
http://blog.iseecars.com/2014/02/24...n-iseecars-com-study-are-all-trucks-and-suvs/

Second study from 2016 (12 million cars)
http://blog.iseecars.com/2016/03/03/longest-lasting-vehicles-2016/


1    Ford F-250 Super Duty    4.20%
2    Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD    3.60%
3    Chevrolet Suburban    3.60%
4    Toyota 4Runner    3.50%
5    Ford Expedition    3.00%
6    GMC Sierra 2500HD    2.70%
7    Chevrolet Tahoe    2.10%
8    GMC Yukon XL    1.90%
9    Toyota Sequoia    1.70%
10    GMC Sierra 1500    1.60%
11    GMC Yukon    1.60%
12    Honda Accord    1.60%
13    Dodge Durango    1.50%
14    Subaru Legacy    1.50%
15    Toyota Tacoma    1.50%
16    Toyota Avalon    1.50%
17    Ford Explorer    1.40%
18    Ford F-150    1.40%
19    Lincoln Navigator    1.40%
20    Chevrolet Silverado 1500    1.40%

 

[Every Road Leads Home]

I think this may be a flawed study because it looks like that list contains the best selling models, which means there were way more of them made, which means there were more of them that had a chance to make it over 200k.

 

[highdesertranger]

it's like all statistics they can be manipulated to say anything you want them to say. 90% of all the vehicles still on the road from the 50's 60's and 70's have over 200k on them so aren't they the longest lasting? a lot of those models shown were not around then. be wary of people touting stats. highdesertranger

 

[sephson]

 

[Gary68]

is there a difference between silverado and sierra besides trim and badge?

 

[vagari]

I think this may be a flawed study because it looks like that list contains the best selling models, which means there were way more of them made, which means there were more of them that had a chance to make it over 200k.

The study looked at the percentage of listings for each make/model that had over 200k miles not the number of them. So 2% of 1,000 and 2% of 100,000 are both 2%

it's like all statistics they can be manipulated to say anything you want them to say.  90% of all the vehicles still on the road from the 50's 60's and 70's have over 200k on them so aren't they the longest lasting?  a lot of those models shown were not around then.  be wary of people touting stats.  highdesertranger

They were studying cars listed for sale on their website. I'm guessing there are not many 50's, 60's and 70's listed for sale anywhere. I'm sure they got rid of makes/models that did not have enough listings to get a decent count.

 

[vagari]

is there a difference between silverado and sierra besides trim and badge?

Yeah I didn't quite understand that either. The study simply looked at mileage of classified listings by make/model. It does not consider dollar amounts of maintenance/repairs to get the vehicles to 200k miles, owner characteristics, vehicle usage, etc.

 

[sushidog]

Well I have a 2006 Chevy Cobalt with over 335,000 miles on the original motor, with about 65k miles of heavy towing, and it's still going strong; whereas my 08 Ford F250 diesel died with less than 150,000 miles on it. I guess they didn't have any Chevy Cobalts up for sale.

Everyone's personal experience is certainly different. Your mileage may vary.

Chip

 

[DannyB1954]

The study didn't consider how much money had to be put into the vehicle to get that many miles.
A friend of mine had a Ford F250 and I bet he could have bought at least 2 trucks with the money he put into it.
When his truck was down he didn't make any money, and he was not in a financial position to buy another truck. If he wanted to get any kind of money for the old truck, he would have to fix it anyway. The top contenders appear to be work trucks, so they may be in a similar situation. A new truck costs $60k, the repair 2k. Easy decision, (each time he had to make it).
I have a 2005 Dodge Dakota which is the same chassis as the Durango. I have 120k miles on it. I had to replace the power steering pump, brakes, lower ball joints. I bet it will do 200k.

 

[ZoNiE]

Hmmm...BOTH of my Explorers were orders of magnitude better than my Durango...

SuperDuty makes the top of the list despite all the 6.0 diesel problems of the past.

Normally I would be surprised by the Tacoma's lower rank, but then we've had two pretty lousy Corollas in the family... Not surprised by the 4Runner though. Better vehicle overall.

Not at all surprised the HD Silverado makes the top two, they usually have Diesels and Alison Transmissions. Would be nice to know the split between gassers and oil burners. Perhaps more GMC's are gassers? I see way more Chevy Diesels than GMC...

The Disparity between the Yukon XL and Suburban is surprising, they are identical.

The difference between the 1500's are insignificant. 0.2%

 

[Every Road Leads Home]

is there a difference between silverado and sierra besides trim and badge?

Only real difference is the Sierra will cost you an extra $5k

 

[ArtW]

The truth:
most modern cars will go 200, 300 or even more hundred K with proper care and feeding, and non abusive driving habits
In my position as a fleet mechanic for a multi-owner in a taxi company, I saw Chevy Luminas (my boss's prefered cab) require engine or drivetrain replacement at less than 200k, while others, bought at 50-60K from car rental agencies no less, went to 400 or even 500K with the original drivetrain
The observable diference?
The drivers of the vehicles that made 500K brought their cars in for PMs ON TIME, and didn't drive their cars like they were trying to kill them
this doesn't mean you can't get a lemon that'll eat your lunch, but on the average most modern vehicles will easily last 200k if you don't flog them and keep the maintenance up
Don't use Bob's gas
Don't use Bob's oil
don't put unnecessary products into either, most gas and oil additives are pure snake oil, and some are actually harmful

 

[Wanderer]

The truth:
most modern cars will go 200, 300 or even more hundred K with proper care and feeding, and non abusive driving habits

This reminds me of my boss who asked me when driving the forklift (Toyota electric)" don't slam the accelerator, come to a full stop by letting gravity do the job (If time permits) and always check the hoses and battery every night".

4 years later the mechanic tells us "Well, normally after this long, I'd see spark marks (Stomping pedal) thin brake pads (our were about about half gone) and hoses looking good. Looks like you guys knew how to treat equipment nicely"

Our supervisor took us out for lunch hearing this....

 

[BlueWeezle]

The Tacoma has a huge rust problem, the frames just rust in half. So much so you just don't even see them for sale up here in the rustbelt.

A not so uncommon picture.

 

[highdesertranger]

ouch. highdesertranger

 

[BlackNBlue]

What nonsense. The 20 longest-lasting vehicles ever made ended production long before anything on this list was even on the drawing board. There are Model T's running around on original engines, Volvos with 7-figure mileages, countless 70's and 80's Mercedes with well over 300k, and other than rust, you'd be hard-pressed to find a Toyota Hilux that doesn't have over 200k.

And let's not get into medium- and heavy-duty trucks. 200k is peanuts for something like an Isuzu NPR.

I once owned and co-owned a '91 Hilux with 302k when it was sold. It had been abandoned, neglected, wrecked once, abused by being the "village ride" for about 25 people... and when sold it leaked nothing, ran strong and healthy, got 28mpg, and the only thing that didn't work was one of the fan speeds. From what I've seen, a typical example.

As pointed out earlier, a $60k truck that needs $2k in repairs every month is going to make it to 200k whether it wants to or not.

 

[wayne49]

#2 & 6 are the same exact base vehicle with different badging. Chevy sells more than GMC due to Chevy's lower price point.

2 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD 3.60%

6 GMC Sierra 2500HD 2.70%