Patience is a virtue (i don't have)

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Gadget728

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The guy who helped me move when I was selling my house said he would do all my carpentry work in my van in exchange for some of my tools. I parted with about $1500- $2000 worth of tools and stuff he wanted. He ended up with nearly all my power tools, Drill press, table saw, miter box saw, recip. saw, drills, sanders and all my pneumatic tools and compressor. He also got some cool knick knacks and books.
Just so everyone knows, ever since my tick bite infection, my hands don't work well anymore. I would have done all this work myself, and been done by now.

We started working on insulation about 3 weeks ago. It took 3 different evenings to get 6 panels worth put up. The van is now ready for walls. We made a cardboard template, to attach to the ribs, to make the mounting for the walls all even. 2 weeks later he has finally got the 7 pieces cut, but they are still not installed. Once the walls are up I can do most of the rest of the work, but the walls must come first.


The bed I ordered is here and ready to install. I now have 4 Trojan T-105 RE's and a power inverter I'd love to get wired up. 

He has been in a bad mood and hasn't wanted to do much lately. I don't want to pressure him, but winter is coming in Kansas, and I really don't have a garage available to accommodate a hi top van. I suppose some cash might encourage him some, but I feel I've already been very generous with the tools he got. I won't ask for anything back, I'm just not that way. 

There were several different wood projects I wanted done, but I'll just keep requesting him to at least get my walls up, and call it good. I really wanted to pretty much ready by Jan. for the RTR, but I'll still go, no matter the stage of completion. For now I'll just try an be patient, he really is a fine carpenter. Patience just doesn't see to be my strong point, and I'm not used to asking for help, I'm fiercely independent. Rant over - Gadget
 
That sucks, maybe you should have rationed ownership of the tools "you get this once this is done" etc
 
Why is it we have trouble finding people with our work ethic?   :huh:
 
My pet peeve is when people don't come through with their end of the bargain. To me, that's just poison.
 
Geeze , that sux!
Maybe you should give him a can of spinach...........
 
rvpopeye said:
Geeze , that sux!
Maybe you should give him a can of spinach...........

Beer is what works better with me.
 
Well, he must have been reading my mind. He just stopped by my shop, apologized for his bad attitude and wants to work on it all day tomorrow. He said home pressures had been getting him down, but he knew how bad I wanted to get my walls done, and he said he was afraid I would take it to someone else. He said he had been well paid for the work and that he should get it done. It figures, about the time I run out of patience....LOL!!
 
Oh good news! I'm glad he seems to be turning things around. I also have someone lined up to do some of my work although on a cash basis. I don't have the van yet so work isn't slated to start until spring. Hope he doesn't forget about me. In the interim, I'm trying to learn as much as I can in case I have to do some of the work and can't find someone I trust to help me.
 
Good news on getting the walls finished up. Then you can move on to the next step. :)
 
Well, last week after our long talk, my carpenter promised to finish up with the walls, he installed 2 boards that make up my rear bulkhead... in 8 hours. He must have smoked about a pack of cigarettes, standing around "thinking about it". We were supposed to work on it yesterday, but he never showed, and this morning he said he'd misplaced his phone. My shop and his house are less than a mile from each other. We have tentative plans now to work on it after lunch today. We can't start any earlier because he has to take his tramp grand daughter to Newton, 30 miles away.
I can't do any wiring, or really anything else until the walls are up. The bed frame & bed are here. My batteries need a box built for them, which goes behind the bulkhead. Once the batteries are in, I can install my roof vent, lights and fridge and wire them up. The wiring & solenoid for the batteries can also be installed.
I am not a bad carpenter myself, but since the tick bite, my hands have no strength and I'm a bit apprehensive about using power tools like the table saw. I'm very tempted to try and build the battery box myself, but should probably just wait. Frustration is setting in again, and I don't deal well with being put off, especially when I paid up front for the work to be done. I hate depending on other people!!
 
He's lucky you have any patience at all, at this point
I know folks, if it was them, bad things would start happening
 
He sounds like one of those crappy carpenters who collects up front and then strings a whole lot of people along at the same time, using a collection of lame excuses that would never bail them out if they had to report to a boss. Did he actually take your tools away with him? I am not going to ask if you made a contract in writing, because this sounds like a gentleman's agreement, only he's no gentleman. He needs a come to Jesus talk right now. This is ridiculous!
 
The most valuable thing he has of mine is a 34" 1/2 hp Radial Drill Press, I paid about $900 for it and the base. Both pieces are under a tarp on a wood pallet in his front yard. I've been half tempted to leave him the rest of the tools and not worry about the cash I've already given him, (he did help me move when I sold my house) and take my drill press back and get a different carpenter. I'm not real hot on taking stuff back, I just want the work done.
We are long time buddies and I don't really want to lose that friendship, but this IS Kansas in late November, bad weather is immanent. I'm going to the RTR and would truly like to be fairly done with the big stuff before the weather hits. I have no garage available to work in big enough to fit my van. Hopefully he'll call after while and we'll get something done today.
 
Hm, I wonder if he doesn't want you to leave so he's not going to finish too soon (you said he's an old buddy). I guess he knows of the deadline you're under here? I'm concerned about your taking back the drill press because as they say, "possession is nine-tenths of the law."

At this rate, you'd get more help from the generous folks at the RTR than you are now. I really hope he gets his act together.
 
I think this thread was improperly titled. Obviously patience is a virtue you do have. 
This guy needs to hold up his end of the bargain. Good Luck.
 
Well, he called at 12:30 today and said he still hadn't taken his grand daughter to Newton, but we would work on it after he got back.
The carpenter has been working part time for my 90 yr. old Dad for the last couple of months. Dad told me today, he's about fed up with his recent attitude. Now that he's heard about my problems with him, he said he's just going to run him off next time he gets mouthy. I'm not sure what the guys problem is, but he has no other job.

George, the NAPA guy & my oldest friend (he rebuilt my front end & will make up all the wires for my batteries) knows my frustration. He was standing in my shop when the carpenter called and could tell I was furious. He said, not to worry, he would help me finish the walls next week if they aren't completed this weekend. He agrees this is ******** and is starting to dislike this guy too. He knows I'm slightly handicapped and doesn't want me to run any big power tools. George & I have come to each others rescue many times since the 70's. He said I'd helped him get where he is today and would be happy to help me. I told him I hated begging people to help me in my current condition. His reply was, "you don't have to beg, you only have to ask". It's very humbling for a prideful person like myself.

I've decided not to take anything back, that's not my style anyway. I've always had empathy for others problems, and I'm no different now. If the job doesn't get completed today or tomorrow, George & I will finish it and I'll just be done with the guy. It's too bad he's willing to lose a good friend over a job that's really not even a challenge for him. Oh Well :)
 
You know, in my younger days I worked in a gas station.  The owner was a former Chevy mechanic who had years of experience working in a dealership.  Once he got his own place, he started coming in later and later.  Eventually, it was 11 am or noon before he showed up for the day.  Some people just don't have the self-discipline to be their own boss.
 
"I'm not sure what the guys problem is, but he has no other job."

Yes, you do.
 

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