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On Friday, after staying home for 32 days, I ventured out.  This is what I found.

Traffic was about the same as before.  This is a farming community with a high percentage of the population being retirees and those who are self employed.

Post Office:  (in a village with population 1,800) signs on door to the very small area where clerks serve to please wait outside in the main area instead of lining up inside (social distancing).  There was a piece of plexi glass installed in front of the postal scale.  The area of the counter between customer and clerk was wide open.  Also, there were signs that masks must be worn.  Neither the clerk nor the customer before me wore masks. As the man came out, he held the door open for me to pass through, forcing me to walk very near him.  I could have told him to go on and opened the door myself, maintaining distance.  Old habits die hard.  Politeness prevailed.

Mortgage Co. Office:  (in a town population 9,000) I am refinancing my mortgage to a lower interest rate.  This is a smallish office.  I sat at a table about ten feet from the mortgage lending officer's desk, whose 10-ish yr old son was there at a desk tucked back in the furthest corner.  Masks worn.  She works from home mostly but comes in for signing and processing documents with those who do not do e-docs.  This is the same company who set up my first mortgage so I have been there before.  This time, there was no office help.

Walmart:  The parking lot was about the same insofar as number of cars.  There is now a fence between the entrance and exit doors and a person outside directs you through the entrance only doors.  Once inside, an employee  points you to a cleaned shopping cart, you cannot just grab one and go.  Another employee with a laptop is entering data as you walk by (head count?).  There were about the same number of people inside as before.  Signs everywhere to maintain distancing.  Signs on floors for one way aisles.  All employees wore masks, although a few were not wearing them properly (not covering nose or pulled down below chin).  I guess about 60-70% of customers wore masks.  Those who did not were mostly young, under 40?  Many products were stocked in the giant economy sizes only.  Laundry soap was only stocked in a huge jug that I can barely lift, enough to last me for a year.  Chicken in large packs only, 8 breasts, 8 thighs. The only beef available was ground beef.  They were low on coffee creamer and dishwasher soap.  I took one of the three bottles left.  Plenty of paper products.  Potato chips in large party sized bags only.  Not much choice for rice and beans and not much there.  No large tortilla wraps (whine, I like those).  Produce seemed about the same in availability and choice.  There were no masks in either the pharmacy or hardware depts.  Liquid antibacterial hand soap shelf was more than half empty.  (I did not look for hand sanitizer.)  There was a large display in the center aisle of Jergens hand lotion.  Cosmetics dept has been moved and substantially downsized.  People tried to maintain social distancing.  One mid-30-ish man commented to me along the lines of "all this fuss for the sniffles" (no mask on him).  I did not reply.  The thought in my head was "there's a fine line between courage and stupidity."  There seemed to be a nervous vibe throughout.  People seemed confused and were moving slowly.  Not much of the usual friendliness.  Perhaps that was just me?

Prices seemed the same as before.  Even though my very long list was organized by dept, it took two hours in the store.  The one way aisles complicated the process.   Upon arrival at home, I repackaged meats.  Luckily I had bought aluminum foil.

Before, this sort of day was my day out once a week or so.  I must say it was pretty awful.  I found myself saying, "OMG!  I will never go back!!"  I reminded myself that some people may not have the funds to shop at all and would be thankful to go there.  But I think it will be a long time before I do this again.  There is a small local store where I can go in the future for necessary groceries.  I will have to go to town to close on the new mortgage in 45-50 days as there is a surge in refi's now due to the lower interest rates.  Otherwise, staying home now seems the better choice but for different reasons.

I am also thankful that now I have the space to store these huge product containers that would have been very difficult in my van or RV.

Honestly, I am tired of reading about it, tired of worrying about it, tired of the speculation and anxiety.  I have turned off the news in any form because no matter what they say or who they blame or who complies with whatever changing and sometimes conflicting orders on whichever day, it will be the same.  People doing the best they can with what they have.

This week I will work in my yard in beautiful weather and listen to the cows mooing in the pasture next door and play with my dog and do laundry (no worries about running out of laundry soap!) And cook simple meals and think about going fishing once the lakes and snow melt.  And most of all, be so very thankful.  All those many years of hard work, challenges, trials and tribulations, and surviving, what we all do and for some continue to do and what humankind has done for eons, marching on towards ???

And P.S.  I will not post on YT or Instagram or Twitter or Tik Tok nor will I carry signs or drive around honking my horn or yelling at anybody.  However, I still have my vote, so far, and you can bet your last dollar I will use it on election day.
 
Thank you for your post, SG, it is appreciated, :).
 
Back on topic.
I was in Parker AZ Wal-Mart about 2 weeks ago. Uh uh, will only do if NO other options. Don't mean cheap options either.

Had been small grocery stores and an Albertsons till then. Being mobile based is definitely some inconvenient now.
 
MaTaLa said:
Back on topic.
I was in Parker AZ Wal-Mart about 2 weeks ago.

The last time I was at the Walmart in Parker was January 2016.  I can't really comment about that store now.  

On Friday, 4/24/2020, I went to the Walmart in Melbourne, FL. 

They had a blockage around the entrances that appeared to be intended to count and limit people going in to, presumably, limit head count in the store.  There was no line to get in.  The store was not crowded inside. 

Being over 70, heavy, with high blood pressure and sugar, I understand that I want to be distant from others.  I want them to be masked as I have been lead to believe that masks are more effective at preventing the sending the virus and less effective at preventing the receiving.  The Walmart employees and other younger folks were not very diligent at mask wearing or positioning.  Other shoppers who looked old enough to remember the '60s appeared to be much more diligent about masking.  I can only control my behaviour.  Sometimes I wonder, while they look old enough to remember the '60s, do they remember?  Have they lost those memories recently or did the memories never really stick in the first place?  Those were interesting times. 

There were stickers on the floor indicating one way traffic in the aisles.  If observed people would not be exposed to people passing in the opposite direction.  That would be good for distancing.  The stickers seemed to be ineffective with half the people going in each direction as before. 

There were no bleach wipes or hand sanitizer.  Tissues and toilet paper were available in multiple size packages.  The full size bleach bottle, formerly gallon, is now 2.5 quart.  There were a half dozen.  The fresh meat selection was slightly less stocked than usual but there was plenty of burger.  On my prior trip there were no 1 pound packages only 2 pound and larger.  This time they had plenty of 1 pound packages.  The SPAM display had one envelope left, I got it.  There was one of the canned chicken little cans and several larger ones.  I got the one small one and took a big one too.  That will be hard to work with while minimizing the storage of leftovers.  Maybe that's the toilet paper shortage cause.  They had chicken so I bought a big can just to be sure not to run out even though I didn't want that size.

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Post too long, split to two.

I don't have old receipts to compare prices but they didn't seem much higher, nothing is doubled. The $0.20 packages of ramen noodles are now $0.24. The ramen shelf space is half empty but there is still plenty there.

The check out area was crowded. The self check out machines could be farther apart. An adult with a swarm of children need more than 6 feet of space.

As I was walking through the parking lot there was a woman, mature but much younger than my age, who appeared to be putting her purchases in her Mini. The back seat area was full to the level of the bottom of the windows. I stopped to chat. I told her about the classic Mini I had long ago and how the bassinet went in the back set and there was still a huge space for groceries. She told me about leaving LA for a teaching job at FSU in Tallahassee. When she got there a week ago the job had vanished. For someone appearing to have suddenly moved to car dwelling or couch surfing she had a remarkably positive outlook. Her ex husband is Australian and she and I agree about Vegemite being an acquired taste.

When leaving this Walmart the exit at the North end has a traffic light. I often use that as it makes left turning less difficult. The line was so long I used the South exit, turned right, and went around the block. The traffic seemed more dense than usual. Maybe the snowbirds haven't gone back to New York yet. It isn't really hot here yet. The humidity is oppressive but if they are in air conditioning there is no urgency to going back to New York.

Bottom line, not much is different from this time last year.
 
Schwan's has been a real life saver here in Bullfrog Utah. It isn't cheap or super tasty, guess I could live on Ice cream though, but is cheap when you figure gasoline is still closer to $4 a gallon here and the risk involved with travel. I believe you could do like some here and order online and arrange a meet up at a local landmark.
 
I'm feeling fortunate to have settled down in a small town for this epidemic disaster scenario we're living through. I have had daydreams recently about renting this place out and going out traveling again, but that won't happen any time soon as the mobile home needs renovations to make it really viable as a rental. Very livable for me, but I only use a small part of it.

Our local market requires masks and gloves, and every time I'm in there - it seems everyone is compliant. It does bother me that we aren't able to see each others' faces and that seems to interfere with some of our friendliness and camaraderie - it is more like we might say "hi" then hurry past each other. Maybe it is just me.

Our local church decided to open back up for the congregation in accordance with guidance from CA state government ... they now allow 50 people to meet I guess, but our congregation in this small town is much smaller. I did not go - I am happy enough watching the livestream from the comfort and isolation of my living room. There were only a few people there so far as I could see... maybe 10-15? ... all sitting 6 feet apart of course. To each their own - I am happy at home and I think it will take a lot of changes in my present outlook to convince me to go back to church at this point... someday I'll want to, but not until all restrictions are lifted. I'm not any less a Christian just because I'm doing it at home, alone. I really love that because of this, my Idaho church started livestreaming their services online and that truly lifts my heart... they have a great worship band and a pastor whose enthusiasm, wisdom and humility are heart warming... without having to live in North Idaho, I can still be part of the church there. I like that. I have a lot of friends there. I've had two people call me from the church there to check on me and pray for me - so I'm still with them without living in the vicinity. (Note: I liked my six years in North Idaho, but the Klamath River Valley is home.)

Our local post office has been keeping the front door propped open, for air flow I guess, and the counter is protected from the public by a clear plastic sheet, like a shower curtain. There's a sign asking that only one person at a time be in the lobby, which is separate from the section with PO Boxes. Everyone here has a PO Box because there's no street delivery. Small town!

Restaurants - there are only 2 here right now. The Pizza House, and Partner's Deli. They are both open for take-out orders, but I haven't ordered anything from them since before this all started even though it is the best pizza in the universe, or at least best I've ever tasted (and I used to work there so I know the recipes) and Daniel who owns Partner's Deli, I count among my friends. Still, it just feels weird to me to get take-out food during an epidemic.

The market... everything is available. Didn't notice any extreme shortages when I was last there - in fact, I was able to get a 12-ounce bottle of hand sanitizer each of the last two weeks I was there. TP has been in short supply but there were some choices on the shelves this last Thursday. I never actually ran out as I had supplies at home - I normally stock up on things like paper products.

There's going to be a concert in the park next Saturday, I heard... three men in our church have a 70's rock band... I guess there will be social distancing. I've decided not to go. It occurred to me that I could be social distancing 6' with a mask on but that wouldn't prevent some other more trusting soul from coming right up to me and speaking into my face without a mask. I am just not ready to risk this... because even though there isn't any C19 here in town that I know of - what I hear about the pain and symptoms and long lasting effects of C19 makes me want never to catch it.

A local man who has been protesting the shut down and minimizing the dangers of C19 (on our Facebook group) recently went to Ashland, Oregon for groceries, and posted photographs of the grocery store there. There were many people not wearing masks, and the store looked like it was full of people everywhere. It is possible for such a person to get C19 out there in Ashland or Medford, then to bring it back here to the forest. That's normally how the flu and colds get here too.

I think I'll just stay home as much as possible. My lawn is nearly completely mowed now (first pass) so I can start on the second week of mowing, maybe tomorrow. I am waiting for Amazon to send me a bench to put in the garden and I expect it will soon be warm enough that I'll want to spend a lot of time out there in the shade in the afternoon - reading, computing, whatever. I like being home.

Oh, last night I was about to walk out my front door when I saw that I'd startled a very small, young skunk on the porch that had been there visiting with my cat - and probably eating the cat food. First skunk I've seen since I came back to town. I quickly closed the door, and braced myself for skunk scent, wondering how I'd be able to sleep in my driveway... but no scent happened. I'm going to have to rethink how I feed these two "outdoor" cats. There were also a few ants in one of the catfood bowls this morning. Something tells me I'll have to invite Morgan and Robie inside for their meals. Nature happens!
 
Just found out a friend of mine is missing. He was in the Medford Walmart with his wife yesterday... they got separated and ... so much, we don't know.. just that he's now missing. They're around 80... can't understand why they'd go to Walmart. I think, maybe, from what I heard, he might have been at the truck alone. Truck missing too? I heard he doesn't drive anymore so if he was there he could have been in the passenger seat.

I don't know if I mentioned it here before, but a few weeks back just around the time we were starting to know that Covid19 was a real problem, I was sitting in my van in the parking lot of our local market in this small mountain town. Just got done with my shopping, got into the van and was about to start the engine when a young man walked up and opened the passenger side of my van and looked like he wanted to get in but I'd put all my groceries over there and my hiking stick was also in the way. I had a hard time convincing him to close the door. Oh, he said he wanted to "cruise" down the highway with me. I said no way... of course.

Anyhow, I wonder if something like that happened to Ron.
 
@TA. Wow, carjacking in small town America. Was he wearing his mask or no?

What is different in Southern AZ? Winter visitors left in March, and a few hardy souls are uncharacteristically staying for the desert heat. Winter visitors usually leave by July 4th, or some sooner if Canadian due to their border crossing. By July 4th here, you really do need a substantial car shade or your car will be damaged. I have not seen any new car shades going up, but one hardy soul did bail out when it reached 105 degrees in the shade. The custom sewing company that makes car shades and button downs is now making face masks. Three medical workers got sick. One very old man survived after a month in the ICU. One very old woman died. A few shootings and drug busts so not everyone is staying at home.

I have not left the compound for about a week, but my last visit to a big box was exactly as described above. The younguns still think they are bulletproof and do not wear the mask.  The old folk in this compound think they are bulletproof and don't wear the mask, but do stay about 20 feet apart except when playing cards. Health dept banned cards, but the addicts are still playing. It is the only game in town what with the casino closed. Some people are still having potlucks, but smaller ones.

The swimming pool is surrounded with caution tape but still has water in it. From time to time it is locked up with about 6 padlocks. Other times you can go in there and sit by the water. The bathing beauties are not wearing masks, but are social distancing one person per palm tree. There are no official bands, dances, or music events but every once in a while you can still catch a jam session happening.

A lot of people walk for exercise, but no swimming and gym is still closed. You can still use a treadmill or bike in the main facility, or do free weights but they forgot to bring the weight bench over. 

The restaurant, grill, and ice cream stand are all closed. Better hope you can cook. You can still get some medical care, but most medical care has been cancelled. Churches are holding services on the internet. My church is saying requiem mass. I also enjoy "attending" some church stuff over a thousand miles from here because it is livestreamed. I think that is cool.

Some "key" people have died. They may have died up north, but their elderly parents live here. That is a hard thing, and there is a level of grief. We miss them.

-crofter
 
Crofter, when that young man tried to climb into my van it was March 15, which was long before the masks became an issue. I think, back then, we weren't even in lockdown yet.

Or were you asking if Ron was wearing one? I don't know... so many details about his disappearance are sketchy right now. . . and there are rumors and I don't know what's true and what isn't. I think it is strange that he disappeared in Medford, Jackson County, Oregon, but the missing person's case is being handled by Siskiyou County, California... where we live. Ron is the first person I met in Happy Camp when I came here in the year 2000... he was showing me a rental house. I rented from him and his wife for 13 years.
 
travelaround said:
Crofter, when that young man tried to climb into my van it was March 15, which was long before the masks became an issue....
So not wearing a mask. If you haven't already, you could describe the person and what he did to the authorities in your area. Might help.  -crofter
 
I reported it when it happened... March 15 - but he was from out of town and by the time they went to look for him he was gone - probably found another way to get a ride out of our area. I knew he was from out of town because he asked about the bus schedule, and anyone here would have known... the bus is called the stage here.

Anyhow - good news! My friend, Ron, was found in a parking lot in Medford and is safe. I guess he was missing overnight. I wonder if he's losing his mind... dementia? I hope not. Hadn't ever noticed anything like that about him. He is 80... and not the type to let his family worry about him overnight.
 
He will certainly need to have a good medical exam if he does not have a good explanation of his behavior. There are many things other then dementia that can cause episodes of confusion but of course it is one of the reasons. Things such as messing up on taking medications, lack of sleep, the wrong combination of prescriptions, heart problems, mini strokes and just plain old fashioned miscommunication between partners.
 
It sounds like all Walmarts everywhere are doing the same thing,  orders came down from above.

Someone in another state asked me what it's like out there in this small community, if people are scared or what.  I had to say I didn't know because I haven't spoken to anybody about it.  The few contacts have been service related and very brief.  I only know how I feel.

Am I scared?  Not really.  I would say cautious.  With the community spread from people who show no symptoms, it makes one distrust everybody.  I think I am pretty average.  So, will we now be less social, more suspicious, less aware of the status of the social and mental states of our communities because we are more isolated?  Fewer public and group gatherings?  A friend told me yesterday that movie theaters are going to open soon in her city.  She said, "Really? Would you go into a theater with all those people for three hours?!"  (Her young son is asthmatic.)  She is also worried about when schools open again. 

There is a flip side to that.  Another person said she was shocked to have money left over at the end of the month from not going out to restaurants, etc.  Her teen son who hates going to school is now making all A's, doing extra credit work in his online classes.  Parents seem to be more involved in their children's educations now that everyone is at home.  They are playing games together.  And figuring out ways to do things.  One young dancer's father built a ballet barr in the garage because when she danced in the living room, she would hit the ceiling fan. When she had to make a dance video as homework for her dance class, she put a tutu on her german shepard and included the dog dancing with her. It was a big hit!  Families spending time together.  Life at a slower pace.

Mom's taxi service is shut down.  Gas costs down 95%. Wear and tear on vehicles much lower and they will last longer. I was concerned about a retired friend who went to art classes, was a garden club member, taught golf lessons, was very active out there and is now staying home alone.  I asked her how she was holding up.  She was absolutely thrilled, working in her garden, reading, playing music on her dusted off keyboard.  She said she is really enjoying not having those commitments.  I don't know who was more surprized, me or her?

Is our consumer driven society changing permanently or will we go back to it?  A young mom told me the Easter baskets this year were pretty scanty in her house but guess what, the kids were happy anyway.  So if we are suspicious of going out as much and surprizingly less consumeristic as a result, the societal changes may be unprecedented.  Or we go back to the hectic buy buy buy way we were before.

Watch and wait.
 
The buy buy buy just switched over to groceries, sanitizing supplies and home improvement supplies.
 
I'm glad people who are normally busy are now getting a chance to slow down and enjoy home life. I have a friend here who is (before CV) one of those always going out places but now that she's home she's really indulging in it not even getting dressed some days and I think it is great that she's no longer going full tilt to take part in community activities... I just love that she's spending time at home and enjoying that.

I watched a Booktube video a few days ago and the woman kept commenting on how she was no longer working and she seemed full of anxiety with a lot of energy and no place to put it - but when I asked her if she enjoyed taking time off work and exploring her own interests - she said she is loving it. I guess there's an adjustment period.

What I like is that people who are usually looking outward at activities and the concerns of others are now looking inward and discovering things about themselves. I see this as a positive result of our stay-at-home compliance. I love, love, love that people are taking time for themselves rather than selling that precious time to others. Of course, money matters are surely difficult for many people... especially if they're used to having more than they can have now - but I've lived without much for so many years I don't see it as a bad thing if some people need to learn the difference between what they really need and what they just want to have or what they want to do.
 
In a sad way, this is good because it will get everyone on the planet thinking outside their own personal cocoons. Most people live a single life, we vandwellers have always seen things both ways.
 
I think the virus has forced a lot of people to realize most things they buy are not really worth the time it took to earn the money to pay for those items and really sitting peacefully outside in nature in a van, camper or RV might be much better than sitting in a bunker having a virtual party.
 
Things are much better where I’m at. Working with a lot of poor older Americans and rich college kids from other countries (some paid $30,000 to come here and work a minimum wage job just to experience America) and hard working immigrants trying to get a start in this country. Hope you all figure out how to do better where you are at and make everyone’s life including yours better, after all this is still America.
 
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