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Interesting....Those actuators would have to be pretty strong. I wonder how long they would last?
 
they have been around for a couple decades(renault f1) but used in conjunction with a cam,to replace the metal coil valve spring, the thing here is the advancement in a precise sensor to control it with a computer

with this you can go from a 3 cylinder 75mpg eco machine to a v8 550 hp monster at the push of a button
 
You guys are killing me, I'm still having a hard time giving up my solid lifter adjusting tools! I think I'll just give up and buy a Prius!
 
Internal combustion engines will be banned from all but show and tell. While most of you are still alive.
 
"Internal combustion engines will be banned from all but show and tell. While most of you are still alive."
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Nooooooo!!!!!     :mad:
 
What makes you think the oil industries would allow that to happen? There have always been better cars around since the steam car and more recently chevy stopped production of some of their electrics because of rumors they would take the market away from present lines. What happened when Tesla wanted to buy the GM's battery originally? What happened to hydrogen cell electric cars? Even natural gas distribution is being put aside because of price manipulating of oil. Did you know that air cooled engines originally had to go away due to emissions standards? Interesting every time something looks like it compete with high oil prices they drop, gee wonder why? I had a 1986 Honda Civic 1300/4 speed that got over 50 MPG on the highway and 44 MPG in town, did 80 MPH all day long, could seat 2 adults and 2 kids. It was about the cheapest new car I could buy at $6,000. How come you can not buy one now? I say we will see lots of improvements go by the way side not just because they were too complicated but because they became too expensive to produce and market while fighting off the oil empire and their brain washing through media of what the public's expectations and therefore wants should be as opposed to what is best and needed.
 
ccbreder said:
Internal combustion engines will be banned from all but show and tell. While most of you are still alive.

From my warm, greasy hands.
 
Petroleum has much more valuable uses than burning. It is just that we have so much of it. Electricity is the future.
 
General Motors and Honda said Monday that they will invest $85 million to form a joint venture and hire 100 workers to produce advanced hydrogen fuel cell systems at a factory in Michigan.

Each automaker plans to contribute $42.5 million to Fuel Cell System Manufacturing, the new joint venture, and expects production will begin by 2020 at an existing plant where GM makes battery packs for the Chevrolet Volt and several hybrids.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/01/30/general-motors-honda-fuel-cell-deal/97240096/
 
My point exactly! They have had the technology since 1966. It has only taken 50 years to start thinking about production! They are probably only reacting to Tesla and will probably under cut them to put them out of business, then cease production as they did for the most part with the patients they obtained years ago on the batteries! It's all about money and nothing else! Shame on a country that creates laws that prevent progress to serve capitalism.
 
ccbreder said:
Electricity is the future.

right up to the moment that electromagnetic fields can mess with human health
 
90% of the population of USA were conceived, born, and raised in artificial electromagnetic fields.
 
bullfrog said:
What makes you think the oil industries would allow that to happen?  There have always been better cars around since the steam car and more recently chevy stopped production of some of their electrics because of rumors they would take the market away from present lines.   What happened when Tesla wanted to buy the GM's battery originally?  What happened to hydrogen cell electric cars?  Even natural gas distribution is being put aside because of price manipulating of oil.  Did you know that air cooled engines originally had to go away due to emissions standards?  Interesting every time something looks like it compete with high oil prices they drop, gee wonder why?  I had a 1986 Honda Civic 1300/4 speed that got over 50 MPG on the highway and 44 MPG in town, did 80 MPH all day long, could seat 2 adults and 2 kids.  It was about the cheapest new car I could buy at $6,000.  How come you can not buy one now?  I say we will see lots of improvements go by the way side not just because they were too complicated but because they became too expensive to produce and market while fighting off the oil empire and their brain washing through media of what the public's expectations and therefore wants should be as opposed to what is best and needed.

I had a 92 Civic Hatchback that got just under 60 mpg consistently. Loved that thing, wish I had never sold it.  Did all my estimates with it back when I had my cabinet shop instead of racking up the miles and gas bill in my box truck I used for installs and deliveries.  They'll say improved emmissions are why they can't make them anymore, but I call bs.  The fuel they save and don't burn would be a lot more emission friendly
 
Had a friend take out the passenger and rear seat out, built a platform, called it his Hondabago! It seems we keep improving vehicles by making them cost more and getting less MPG!
 
ccbreder said:
Electricity is the future.

I disagree.

Electricity means range of travel is dependent on battery reserves. These reserves are generally low range. Batteries may be recharged, but not instantaneously; one cannot just fill a tank and go again, but rather wait 12 hours to recharge a battery bank, as that's how long it takes.

Battery banks can be made bigger, but batteries are expensive, heavy, and have a lifespan. When they're depleted, the cost to replace the batteries may outweigh the cost of the car. You won't see 30 year-old, cheap, economical cars on the road, as you do now, in a future that is all electric. And where cars are disposable, it should be remembered that the greatest expenditure over one's ownership of a car is the manufacturing itself of that new car.

The electricity has to be made somewhere. Currently, this is largely coming from sources with emissions. The batteries also have a lengthy manufacturing process.

Hydrogen ought to be the future. It comes out of water, it can be pumped into a tank immediately just like gasoline, and has no greater propensity for cost-negating wear items such as batteries.
 
TMG51 said:
I disagree.

Electricity means range of travel is dependent on battery reserves. These reserves are generally low range. Batteries may be recharged, but not instantaneously; one cannot just fill a tank and go again, but rather wait 12 hours to recharge a battery bank, as that's how long it takes.

Battery banks can be made bigger, but batteries are expensive, heavy, and have a lifespan. When they're depleted, the cost to replace the batteries may outweigh the cost of the car. You won't see 30 year-old, cheap, economical cars on the road, as you do now, in a future that is all electric. And where cars are disposable, it should be remembered that the greatest expenditure over one's ownership of a car is the manufacturing itself of that new car.

The electricity has to be made somewhere. Currently, this is largely coming from sources with emissions. The batteries also have a lengthy manufacturing process.

Hydrogen ought to be the future. It comes out of water, it can be pumped into a tank immediately just like gasoline, and has no greater propensity for cost-negating wear items such as batteries.

Wow, someone who actually understands the concept of life cycle costs!  The only real way to determine the economic viability of a proposed endeavor.
 
I always wondered why we couldn't have some roads rigged up like "bumper car" pavilions at the amusement parks.  Just basic point to point roads from heavy population centers where the hybrid cars could have a rod with a pickup that would reach up to the overhead grid.  (and run like a bumper car)  These would of course be be toll roads.

Once the driver leaves the road the internal combustion engine would be started and the car operate as a hybrid from there on.  

I don't believe we've had any electric turnpikes yet.

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