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Trigona

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Hello,

I'm just wondering how you support yourself financially if you're a Canadian living full time on the road, without a pension.

I'm planning on living this lifestyle but I still have at least 15yrs to go before I can get a pension and of course I don't want to restrict myself to traveling only in Canada.

Thanks
 
Welcome to the forum from a fellow Canadian!

There's a couple of ways.

I used to do commissioned sales to businesses where all my contact was either by phone, email or fax. Given a big enough data/calling plan I could have continued to work with my Canadian clients while I travelled in the US in the winter and other than for me bragging about the weather in AZ while they were *** deep in snow, they would never have known that I wasn't sitting at home in my home office. My hours would have been odd since all my clients would have been 3 time zones away but at least my afternoons would have been free... :)

There's also the problem of being too young to retire and convincing the US border guards that you are NOT coming down for six months to work and that absolutely non of the work you do will have any connection whatsoever with any US businesses or residents. They want to know how you're supporting yourself while you're here in the US and they're not accustomed to 'I do all my work with Cdn clients by phone so I can sit in a hot tub in AZ and make phone calls.'  Retirement pensions they understand - well most of them do, I had trouble last year... :rolleyes:

The other alternative is to have a good enough job for 6 or 7 months of the year that is seasonal in nature and that you live cheap enough during that time to save enough money to not work for the months you're in the US. Again, convincing US Customs that you're not intending to work while in the US is going to be a hassle.

It is extremely difficult for most working age Canadians to live this lifestyle given that staying in Canada year round is mostly  unpleasant unless you're somewhere like the lower BC mainland where the winters are mild enough and short enough to not freeze you back in to conventional housing.

We were both born on the wrong side of the white line I'm afraid... :D
 
There's a white line?????
It ALL looks white from here.....
 
I don't know how they do it... super high gas prices, insane sales tax, and food in general is absurdly expensive.

The wife and I spent 2.5 weeks throughout NB, PEI, and Cape Bretton and paying 6 bucks for eggs for old when they're 88 cents in the states.


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I'm a Canadian full time vandweller with a career. The difference is that I'm stationary in Vancouver BC. Its just to cold do the vanlife full-time in the rest of Canada.

As to supporting yourself on the road I'd look at using the Internet somehow.
 
[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Almost There, [/font][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Thank you so much for your reply, I really appreciate it! I did notice how hard it is to cross borders especially if we do not have a job at the time we are traveling. I did cross last year in Vancouver as a vacation time for two weeks and that was not a problem.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]As for the the ''commissioned sales'' that is also an excellent way to make a living from abroad. Unfotunately I know nothing of that particular domain. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Anyhow I am confident that something will come up eventually it's just finding the right way to do it. I am considering online work as soon as I find the right sphere of activity.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Have a great day![/font]
 
ddbowdoin said:
I don't know how they do it... super high gas prices, insane sales tax, and food in general is absurdly expensive.

The wife and I spent 2.5 weeks throughout NB, PEI, and Cape Bretton and paying 6 bucks for eggs for old when they're 88 cents in the states.


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I totally agree with you ddbowoin! That's why I would like to leave this insane part the world 4 month out of the year!
 
How does Canadian health insurance work in the states? Emergency only?
 
I'm Canadian and, before I screwed up my back helping a friend, I spent about 25 yrs working in the orchards in the Okanagan (and some treeplanting/gold prospecting). There can be some real good money made picking fruit, even for the older folk, and there's plenty of other work to be had in the orchards/vineyards. The whole time, since I hit the road at around 20 yrs, I've been a wanderer and, for the most part, fruit picked in the summer and traveled the rest of the year. ..Willy.
 
Travelmonkey said:
How does Canadian health insurance work in the states? Emergency only?
Yes, and no! Elective surgery probably wouldn't be covered in any case so yes, basically emergency only. However, some Cdns travel outside of the province for some surgery that can not be provided in their home province, usually because of a time consideration or because of a technical aspect of the surgery. That would have to be approved in advance.

While universal health care is federally mandated, each province manages their own residents health coverage and establishes their own rules and payments.

At present I am an Ontario resident. As such I have to be in the province for 6 months of the year to keep my health coverage intact. Once I move to British Columbia, they're residency requirement is only 5 months.... :)

When I travel outside the province (yes, even to other provinces) I need to purchase private insurance to top up what my own provincial coverage won't pay for outside of Ontario. Prices for out of province/out of country insurance vary by age,state of your health, where you're traveling and how long you're going to be out of province and of course, which insurance company you go to.

While Ontario would pay the full cost of a standard ward bed or better as medically required for hospitalization in Ontario, they only currently pay $400.00 CANADIAN towards any hospital bed in the US. Rates of reimbursement are similarly extremely limited for all types of occurrences.

I had to hunt for coverage last year that was affordable for me. I have no health issues that are cause for concern to an insurance company but because I avoid western medical care except for 'mechanical repairs' I had to hunt for a company that gave me a good rate. Most downgraded my rating because I hadn't seen a primary care physician in the previous 2 years. I found one that simply (at the end of 10 pages of questionaire..sigh) asked if my prescriptions had changed in the last six months. They make the assumption that by the time you're my age, you're already on multiple prescriptions and they are just looking for stability. Icould honestly answer yes to the question - my prescriptions hadn't changed in the previous six months - I'm not on any!! Needless to say, I went back to them again this year instead of shopping the market.

I paid just under $600.00 for 6 months worth of top up insurance but that comes with a hefty $5,000. Cdn deductible. I could have had a $1,000 deductible but the premium was substantially higher.

The cost of out of province coverage is what eventually stops a lot of Canadians from continuing their life as snowbirds. The premiums just get to the point where you either take the chance and don't buy any coverage or you pay exorbitant amounts for insurance.
 
alternatively there are plenty of warm places , the US is just one alternative, there are cheaper, safer, saner, less populated, more interesting, more beautiful and more ethical choices out there. Some people work part of the year, others make their rigs comfortable enough to live through a winter, others move to the Island or the lower mainland.
 
Almost There said:
Yes, and no! Elective surgery probably wouldn't be covered in any case so yes, basically emergency only. However, some Cdns travel outside of the province for some surgery that can not be provided in their home province, usually because of a time consideration or because of a technical aspect of the surgery. That would have to be approved in advance.

While universal health care is federally mandated, each province manages their own residents health coverage and establishes their own rules and payments.

At present I am an Ontario resident. As such I have to be in the province for 6 months of the year to keep my health coverage intact. Once I move to British Columbia, they're residency requirement is only 5 months.... :)

When I travel outside the province (yes, even to other provinces) I need to purchase private insurance to top up what my own provincial coverage won't pay for outside of Ontario. Prices for out of province/out of country insurance vary by age,state of your health, where you're traveling and how long you're going to be out of province and of course, which insurance company you go to.

While Ontario would pay the full cost of a standard ward bed or better as medically required for hospitalization in Ontario, they only currently pay $400.00 CANADIAN towards any hospital bed in the US. Rates of reimbursement are similarly extremely limited for all types of occurrences.

I had to hunt for coverage last year that was affordable for me. I have no health issues that are cause for concern to an insurance company but because I avoid western medical care except for 'mechanical repairs' I had to hunt for a company that gave me a good rate. Most downgraded my rating because I hadn't seen a primary care physician in the previous 2 years. I found one that simply (at the end of 10 pages of questionaire..sigh) asked if my prescriptions had changed in the last six months. They make the assumption that by the time you're my age, you're already on multiple prescriptions and they are just looking for stability. Icould honestly answer yes to the question - my prescriptions hadn't changed in the previous six months - I'm not on any!! Needless to say, I went back to them again this year instead of shopping the market.

I paid just under $600.00 for 6 months worth of top up insurance but that comes with a hefty $5,000. Cdn deductible. I could have had a $1,000 deductible but the premium was substantially higher.

The cost of out of province coverage is what eventually stops a lot of Canadians from continuing their life as snowbirds. The premiums just get to the point where you either take the chance and don't buy any coverage or you pay exorbitant amounts for insurance.

Thanks for the thoughtful and thorough response.  The 6 month (or 5 month) in province requirement can be a drag for some.  $600 for six month supplemental insurance doesn't seem bad at all.  Cheaper and lower deductible than "catastrophic" coverage.  Thanks again and safe travels.
 
Trigona said:
I totally agree with you ddbowoin! That's why I would like to leave this insane part the world 4 month out of the year!

I Live in NB and have never seen eggs for $6 not sure where you got your prices from?  our eggs are about $4 for 18 eggs at Sobeys.. gas is $1.30 a gallon.. I say that is high to what the US pays.. but here we have 4 seasons.. land is awesome and we don't have to worry about a lot of bad weather that there is in the US.. tornado alley for example.  I'd take -20 and snow any day.. its melts and doesn't wipe your house off the map
 
nomadicgenealogish said:
I Live in NB and have never seen eggs for $6 not sure where you got your prices from?  our eggs are about $4 for 18 eggs at Sobeys.. gas is $1.30 a gallon.. I say that is high to what the US pays.. but here we have 4 seasons.. land is awesome and we don't have to worry about a lot of bad weather that there is in the US.. tornado alley for example.  I'd take -20 and snow any day.. its melts and doesn't wipe your house off the map

a buck thirty a gallon for gasoline? heck, where is that, i might move there...
 
From the breadcrumbs in the post I take it that it is in New Brunswick, Canada. When I drove through Canada two years ago, gas was about $2 CDN per LITER. I drove through the west side though.

First post. Go over to the newcomers corner and introduce yourself for a proper welcome.
 
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